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• 00:03 David Hart: Shalom, friends. On today's program, Simon Peter faces the biggest crisis
• 00:05 of his life.
• 00:07 How will the Rock hold up?
• 00:09 Find out next on "Our Jewish Roots," with Bible teaching
• 00:12 by Dr. Jeffrey Seif.
• 00:13 ♪♪♪
• 00:18 narrator: Sunrise on the Galilee.
• 00:21 Simon Peter prepares his nets for a day at sea.
• 00:25 Much like the sea, Peter was unpredictable,
• 00:29 calm and steady and then, in an instant,
• 00:33 tempestuous.
• 00:35 As we reflect upon the Lord's most intriguing disciple,
• 00:38 we can see ourselves because we too have been broken and
• 00:42 then restored.
• 00:45 We too, in so many ways, are much like Peter.
• 00:51 ♪♪♪
• 00:56 David: We are so glad you've joined us today.
• 00:57 I'm David Hart.
• 00:59 Kirsten Hart: I'm Kirsten Hart.
• 01:00 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: I am Jeffrey Seif.
• 01:02 Kirsten: I don't know if you've ever had a moment in your
• 01:04 life where it's that woulda, shoulda,
• 01:07 coulda moment where you wish you could go back in time and change
• 01:11 what you said or what you did.
• 01:13 Peter had one of those.
• 01:16 It was a big one, but this was also the man who witnessed the
• 01:19 Transfiguration, he walked on water,
• 01:21 he defied gravity.
• 01:23 Not his best moment, but I think he would have changed it if
• 01:27 he could have.
• 01:28 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: You know, it's not a scripted statement
• 01:30 but as you were speaking, I thought,
• 01:32 "Not his best moment."
• 01:34 It's true.
• 01:35 It's just, it's disappointing.
• 01:37 But it's human, it's life.
• 01:39 Kirsten: It is.
• 01:40 We've--I've said so many things, we've said things to each other,
• 01:43 I mean, we get along very well.
• 01:45 David: Don't say what it is.
• 01:47 Kirsten: No, ha, ha, but a few times where I'm like,
• 01:48 "I really shouldn't have said that or I shouldn't have
• 01:50 done that."
• 01:51 And we live with that.
• 01:53 But there's always forgiveness.
• 01:55 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: You know, and in other world I have
• 01:57 a career in police and, as a police trainer,
• 01:59 and you know, there's a saying when you pull the trigger on a
• 02:02 gun, you can't call the bullet back.
• 02:04 You can't say, "Oops, my bad."
• 02:05 You have to live with it.
• 02:07 So you wanna be careful before you pull--put your finger in the
• 02:08 trigger guard, never mind pull the trigger.
• 02:10 You know, we have history in life and we can't always
• 02:13 take back.
• 02:14 I only hope in life, the things that I do right outperform the
• 02:18 things that I do wrong, but I know because I'm human the world
• 02:22 gets a little bit of both.
• 02:23 Kirsten: Thank goodness that our words that we've said and
• 02:26 the actions that we've done aren't written down that
• 02:28 everyone throughout history is reading and going,
• 02:31 "Oh, you did a bad thing."
• 02:32 You know what I mean, we all have that.
• 02:34 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: You're two for two on good points
• 02:35 in my mind.
• 02:37 I wouldn't want the world to see my mistakes.
• 02:38 Kirsten: I agree.
• 02:40 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: I just thank God that he sees them
• 02:41 and blots them out in the sea of forgetfulness.
• 02:43 David: Amen.
• 02:44 Right now, we take you to the place on the night Jesus
• 02:46 was betrayed.
• 02:48 narrator: Night had fallen in Jerusalem,
• 02:50 and the Lord's final hours were quickly approaching.
• 02:53 On this Passover evening, while families quietly gathered to
• 02:58 celebrate liberation, a cruel plan was unfolding.
• 03:02 The stillness of Gethsemane would be vanquished by a
• 03:06 multitude of guardsmen carrying swords and clubs.
• 03:09 It would be a fateful night of accusations,
• 03:12 betrayal, and bloodshed.
• 03:15 ♪♪♪
• 03:25 [speaking in foreign language]
• 05:05 ♪♪♪
• 05:12 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: I don't know if you have ever had
• 05:15 the opportunity to arrest anyone.
• 05:17 I have.
• 05:18 In another life, I served as a police officer and,
• 05:22 in that capacity, I worked patrol in the streets,
• 05:24 and for a season I worked as a marshal for the court,
• 05:27 in the context of which I was given warrants that I had
• 05:31 responsibility to execute.
• 05:34 I mention that here because a warrant for arrest is executed.
• 05:38 There's a story where Judas Iscariot,
• 05:42 Iscariot, "a man from Kerioth," a city not far from Jerusalem.
• 05:46 The other disciples were from the Galilee,
• 05:48 far away.
• 05:49 Judas has procured a band of soldiers and they make their way
• 05:52 to seize Jesus.
• 05:55 I'm glad I wasn't in the group.
• 05:57 One of those who attended the group,
• 05:58 Malchus, had his ear cut off and you know who did it?
• 06:00 A guy named Peter.
• 06:03 I wanna look at the book in the Matthean Gospel.
• 06:06 We're looking at chapter 26.
• 06:08 Here, we're told they came with swords and clubs.
• 06:10 In the Johannine Gospel, the Gospel of John,
• 06:13 we're told that they came with "lanterns and torches" as well.
• 06:17 And the reason why they came with lanterns and torches is
• 06:20 because they came in the middle of the night because they
• 06:23 couldn't come around in the day and arrest Jesus because
• 06:26 thousands of Jews were running around the place saying,
• 06:28 "[speaking in Hebrew] Blessed be he who comes in the name
• 06:32 of the Lord."
• 06:34 Interestingly, Jesus was popular amongst the rank and file.
• 06:39 His miracles and his safe teachings attracted people
• 06:43 to him.
• 06:45 But, you know, overrun with envy,
• 06:48 the ruling kohanim, the ruling priests and leaders,
• 06:51 were chagrined and, stealthily, they took pains to arrest Jesus
• 06:56 in the middle of the night when no one was around.
• 06:59 We're told in the context of the arrest in verse 51 that
• 07:04 "suddenly, one of those with Yeshua stretched out his hand
• 07:09 and drew his sword, and he struck the high priest's servant
• 07:13 and cut off his ear."
• 07:15 Now, Matthew tells us "someone cut off someone's ear."
• 07:21 And it's interesting, by the way,
• 07:24 none of the synoptic Gospels, Matthew,
• 07:27 Mark, and Luke, don't name him.
• 07:30 Just, "One of the disciples did it."
• 07:34 John names him and says, "It was our man, Peter."
• 07:40 In the aftermath, Jesus says, "Put that sword away."
• 07:46 And he goes on to say, "Don't you know that those that live by
• 07:50 it, will die by it?"
• 07:52 Now it's interesting, I should say,
• 07:55 and when I think of the moment, we live in a world today that's
• 07:58 rather turbulent, whether it's the streets of America
• 08:01 or whether it's countries in the world,
• 08:04 you know, people get turned upside down,
• 08:06 circumstances go awry, there's anger,
• 08:08 there's militancy, there's war, and the question here is Jesus
• 08:11 just saying No to all of that, there's no place in the world
• 08:18 for a soldier or a police officer?
• 08:19 Well, indeed there is.
• 08:21 In fact, elsewhere in the Newer Testament,
• 08:23 we're beckoned to be respectful to those who carry that
• 08:25 God-ordained authority.
• 08:27 But the point is that the kingdom of God does not advance
• 08:32 by the sword.
• 08:34 And that's what distinguishes it from all else,
• 08:37 by the way.
• 08:38 I mean, if you look at the world that we live in,
• 08:40 powerful leaders have held their torch high for a season
• 08:44 and dominated.
• 08:45 And they expanded their kingdoms,
• 08:48 whether it's Genghis Khan, Napoleon,
• 08:50 Alexander the Great, whoever it is,
• 08:52 you know, famous generals who became emperors in Rome,
• 08:55 you know.
• 08:56 By the dint of their own determination,
• 08:58 they go forth and conquer, they hold their torch high for a
• 09:00 season and then it vanishes.
• 09:03 Kingdoms come and go.
• 09:05 In fact, it's a poor translation of the Matthean text where we're
• 09:07 told later that Jesus sent his disciples to go and preach the
• 09:12 gospel to all nations.
• 09:14 Doesn't mention nations.
• 09:16 It says "ethnos" in the Greek, which is all peoples.
• 09:19 Nations are artificial constructs.
• 09:21 They come and they go, the borders change.
• 09:24 The only nation that's noted particularly in the Bible
• 09:27 with a destiny is Israel, interestingly.
• 09:29 But nations come and go.
• 09:31 God's concerned to reach all peoples.
• 09:33 And the way peoples are reached are--it's not by the sword.
• 09:38 Interestingly, Jesus never lifted up a pen,
• 09:41 never mind a sword.
• 09:42 But his teachings are known the world over.
• 09:44 And in conjunction with his teachings,
• 09:47 we see here an example of Peter, who was--who fell asleep on the
• 09:50 job earlier, literally.
• 09:54 He wakes up, startled, when the arrest party comes.
• 09:57 He throws out a sword and he cuts off the ear and,
• 10:00 once again, Jesus looks at him and says,
• 10:02 "No, no, no."
• 10:03 Don't we all make mistakes?
• 10:05 Well, in that--of course, we do.
• 10:07 And so it is, we are in many ways,
• 10:10 much like Peter.
• 10:12 ♪♪♪
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• 12:40 Right now, we continue our story,
• 12:41 as Peter reflects upon that terrible moment when he denied
• 12:44 knowing the one to whom he'd sworn allegiance: his Lord and
• 12:48 Master, Yeshua, Jesus.
• 12:52 ♪♪♪
• 13:04 [speaking in foreign language]
• 14:33 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: A lot of things run through a minister's
• 14:35 mind before they minister.
• 14:38 Perhaps the communicator is recalling a book they read,
• 14:40 something in the biblical text.
• 14:42 For this segment, the most important thing I need to recall
• 14:46 is my own humanity.
• 14:48 I mention that because we're at a place in Scripture where we're
• 14:51 looking at Peter's.
• 14:53 The story starts off good enough.
• 14:56 We're coming out of the Last Supper,
• 14:57 a Passover Seder, and Yeshua, Jesus,
• 15:00 is there with his talmidim, with his disciples,
• 15:03 and they're singing the hallel in verse 26,
• 15:06 standard fare in a Jewish Passover Seder.
• 15:08 It ends with a lot of praise, but then Jesus throws
• 15:11 'em a curve.
• 15:12 In verse 26, in verse 27, actually,
• 15:16 Yeshua said to them, "You will all fall away,
• 15:19 for it is written: 'I will strike the shepherd,
• 15:23 and the sheep will be scattered.'"
• 15:25 Well, Peter would have none of it.
• 15:27 In verse 29, again chapter 14, in the Gospel of Mark,
• 15:32 Peter said, "Even though all fall away,
• 15:35 I won't!"
• 15:37 Well, he said, "I won't," but he did.
• 15:40 We're gonna look at that momentarily,
• 15:43 but here he is saying, "No, I'm better than them."
• 15:46 He distinguishes himself from the group and finds himself
• 15:49 more meritous.
• 15:51 In his estimation, he has more resolution than the rest do,
• 15:55 but not so, as we'll see.
• 15:57 Jesus presses in again, "No, you are going deny me and not just
• 16:00 once, but three times."
• 16:03 Well, in verse 31, Peter insists that he won't,
• 16:06 but we know that he does.
• 16:09 We know 'cause we flip the page.
• 16:12 We read the story.
• 16:13 Jesus gets arrested and there's a crisis.
• 16:15 No one expected that.
• 16:17 And Peter is following at a distance to see how this is
• 16:22 going to play out.
• 16:24 He's seized by the authorities and he's noticed and someone
• 16:29 says, "Wait, hey, aren't you one of his disciples?"
• 16:31 Peter denies it.
• 16:34 We get into the thick of the story and it really is quite
• 16:38 sad, tell you the truth.
• 16:40 And I should say here that when we look at the Gospel of Mark,
• 16:44 arguably we're looking at Peter's reminiscences.
• 16:47 Mark put it down for him but we get a window into Peter's soul
• 16:52 so you know you're working with personal understanding here.
• 16:55 "He began to curse himself," we're told in verse 71,
• 17:00 "and to swear an oath."
• 17:02 He's emphatic: "I do not know this Man."
• 17:06 When challenged, "Hey, Peter, aren't you associated with him?"
• 17:11 He presses it, he brings down curse upon himself.
• 17:15 We're told he swears by an oath.
• 17:17 He is emphatic as he knows to be.
• 17:20 And he says not just that I don't know him,
• 17:23 but he who originally said when the question was raised,
• 17:28 Jesus asked, "Who do men say that I am," Peter was the one
• 17:31 who said, "You are the Messiah.
• 17:34 You are the Christ."
• 17:35 But now, here, Peter on the other end of the journey with
• 17:38 Jesus, says, "I don't know this man."
• 17:42 Here, he's just a man.
• 17:44 We're told in verse 72: "Right then,
• 17:48 a rooster crowed a second time."
• 17:50 And then we're told that Peter called to mind the word that
• 17:55 Yeshua had said to him."
• 17:58 See, if we're entering into Peter's thought world,
• 18:01 only Peter could give us access to that.
• 18:04 It was right there and then when Peter recalls in his mind what
• 18:08 Jesus told him, and then finally we get out of this section,
• 18:15 "and he broke down and began to weep."
• 18:21 Peter was quite the disappointment here,
• 18:26 wasn't he?
• 18:27 Yes, he didn't just appoint--disappoint Jesus,
• 18:29 he disappointed himself.
• 18:32 Sometimes, there can be a chasm between what we espouse and the
• 18:36 way that we live.
• 18:38 Better it is that we keep those close together.
• 18:40 We don't want too much of a rift.
• 18:44 We want congruence between what we are and the way we represent
• 18:48 ourselves in this world in various ways.
• 18:50 But here, we see the gap widen here.
• 18:52 It's a crisis moment and Peter doesn't know Jesus.
• 18:57 He takes a look at himself and he breaks down.
• 19:01 It's a sad moment when he sees the way he performed.
• 19:05 You know, it's a tough moment but there's good news,
• 19:08 and the reason why I say that is in so many ways we're
• 19:11 much like Peter.
• 19:14 That imperfect are we, the person who's speaking and the
• 19:15 person who's listening.
• 19:17 We all have feet of clay from the neck down and when we see
• 19:20 Peter here in a bad way, we can remember the grace of God was
• 19:23 sufficient even for that moment.
• 19:27 If you find yourselves at a place right now where you're
• 19:30 less than what you ought to be, what you know to be,
• 19:32 let me encourage you to turn to the Lord.
• 19:35 He'll turn to you if you turn to him,
• 19:37 and he has a way of restoring, doesn't he?
• 19:40 He did it to Peter, he did it to me,
• 19:42 he does it to us for in so many ways we're just like the man
• 19:45 we're reading about here.
• 19:47 We're so much like Peter.
• 19:50 ♪♪♪
• 19:59 David: There's an old hymn that we sing in our churches.
• 20:02 You've probably sung it too.
• 20:04 It says: "Once I was a sinner, but I'm saved by grace."
• 20:08 I don't think we're done sinning,
• 20:10 but hopefully, that gets less and less as our
• 20:13 walk with Yeshua.
• 20:14 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Right, I'm not familiar with the hymn
• 20:16 because I was raised in the synagogue but kudos
• 20:19 to your point.
• 20:20 We still take the old nature into the new economy and,
• 20:24 thankfully, the Lord's grace follows us into the new economy.
• 20:27 We need it.
• 20:28 David: Like it happened with Peter.
• 20:30 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: It surely did.
• 20:31 Kirsten: And I was just thinking about Peter and,
• 20:34 gosh, we beat each other up, we believers,
• 20:40 I--sorry, but we tend to--we see something like,
• 20:43 ooh, you denied him, and we're gonna just beat him up.
• 20:46 I think the point when Peter heard that rooster crow,
• 20:51 he beat himself up enough.
• 20:54 And what we can do is give love, we can give grace,
• 20:57 we can try to restore and that's,
• 20:59 to me, more important than, "You blew it.
• 21:02 You blew it, Peter."
• 21:04 He knew he blew it.
• 21:05 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: He did. He wept.
• 21:07 Kirsten: He did.
• 21:08 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: And he was a strong man,
• 21:10 bull-headed, and he broke down.
• 21:13 I really like Peter.
• 21:15 You know, I was just so glad to do a series on Peter because in
• 21:21 so many ways we're all much like Peter.
• 21:24 Kirsten: We are, and give grace,
• 21:28 love, compassion.
• 21:30 That's what the Messiah did.
• 21:31 And Jesus, I love that he even said,
• 21:33 "You're gonna do this," and Peter's like,
• 21:34 "I will not."
• 21:36 "You're gonna do this."
• 21:37 He was kind of trying to preface,
• 21:39 "This is gonna happen," and Peter was like,
• 21:41 "No, I won't."
• 21:42 And yes, he did.
• 21:44 But we all do.
• 21:45 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: You know, I mean, I sit here now.
• 21:49 It says, "Dr. Jeffrey Seif" in front of my name,
• 21:50 you know, I'm a Bible College Seminary professor,
• 21:53 in another world: a police officer.
• 21:55 I love giving breaks to people.
• 21:57 The police chases were okay, I did some fights to the ground.
• 22:00 And you know, you've got to go hands on and do that sort of
• 22:03 thing, but it just gave me a lot of pleasure to give a break.
• 22:07 And I tell people, "Listen, you know, I'm a Christian.
• 22:10 The Lord's given me some breaks, so I'm happy to spread around
• 22:12 some love," you know?
• 22:14 And it's just great to be gracious.
• 22:17 God is.
• 22:19 David: I have a picture on my phone that I love to look at
• 22:21 quite a bit as I'm scrolling.
• 22:23 It's Peter under the water, his perspective: looking up at Jesus
• 22:26 and Jesus's hand coming down to grab him.
• 22:29 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 22:31 yeah, yeah.
• 22:32 David: Where he took his eyes off of him but focus
• 22:34 back on Jesus.
• 22:36 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Yeah, I've seen that picture too.
• 22:38 Would that people got the picture too,
• 22:40 you know, there could be some watching TV,
• 22:42 you never know, and you just think you're underwater in life
• 22:44 and the reason why you think you're underwater in life,
• 22:46 is 'cause you are underwater in life.
• 22:48 Welcome to reality.
• 22:50 You're just facing it.
• 22:51 But if you'd look up, you might see a hand coming down as well.
• 22:54 Make your way to a church.
• 22:56 Get on your knees, reach up to God.
• 22:58 You'd be surprised.
• 22:59 A lot of us were sinking and a lot of us were stinking,
• 23:01 you know, but the Lord lifts us up.
• 23:03 Kirsten: And we just have to remember also too that regret,
• 23:07 and I know Peter had regret, eats us up on the inside and
• 23:09 that Scripture tells us is we're forgiven as far as the East is
• 23:14 from the West, as God's go, "What do you mean?
• 23:16 What regret?
• 23:18 I don't even remember that."
• 23:19 And he goes on.
• 23:21 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: You know, I'll tell you straight up.
• 23:23 You know, as a dad, I have a kid who's raised some kids and it's
• 23:25 just been years of up and down, drugs and everything,
• 23:30 and, you know, I tire of it, but the grace is always there
• 23:34 when he turns, I turn to him.
• 23:35 If he turns away, it is.
• 23:37 He turns back.
• 23:38 I just really mean well for him.
• 23:40 I get it, he's got an itch, there's a problem.
• 23:44 Thank God he's getting over it.
• 23:45 But it's taken years.
• 23:47 It's been a journey, but my love's always been there.
• 23:48 I think God's like that too.
• 23:50 Kirsten: It is a journey.
• 23:51 You raised two boys.
• 23:52 Dave and I raised two boys.
• 23:54 Our friend Carolyn Hyde raised two boys.
• 23:56 She's just such a treat and sometimes you meet people and
• 24:01 you're just like, "Hi, nice to meet you," and Carolyn Hyde,
• 24:03 I could have just sat with her for hours.
• 24:05 David: You did. Kirsten: We did.
• 24:06 Kirsten: We just stayed after this interview that you're about
• 24:09 to see and we just kind of hung out and chat.
• 24:11 I know you're gonna want more of Carolyn after you hear
• 24:14 her right now.
• 24:16 Carolyn Hyde: Well, first of all,
• 24:18 it was the Lord.
• 24:20 'Cause we try not to do anything,
• 24:21 especially a big move like that, just on our own,
• 24:25 you know, for fun or whatever, and so the Lord made it
• 24:28 really clear.
• 24:30 We initially settled in Haifa and the western Galilee,
• 24:34 but then the Lord moved us here to the eastern Galilee or what
• 24:38 most people call just the Galilee.
• 24:40 And it was during the war and he made it so clear,
• 24:44 this is where we belong.
• 24:46 It's amazing who God has gathered here in the Galilee.
• 24:50 It's just like what's written in Isaiah 9,
• 24:52 you know, the people walking in darkness have seen
• 24:55 a great light, in Galilee of the Gentiles.
• 24:58 And so, there's like a move of so many worshipers to this
• 25:03 region, particularly to a village that's very near
• 25:07 our village.
• 25:08 A lot of Christians and Messianic Jews live there.
• 25:11 We don't live there.
• 25:13 We chose to live somewhere else because it's real easy to live
• 25:18 in a bubble and then never learn Hebrew and just speak English
• 25:21 all the time, and we didn't wanna do that.
• 25:23 Kirsten: So you grew up speaking Hebrew?
• 25:25 Carolyn: No, I grew up with prayers in the synagogue
• 25:28 in Hebrew, but that's not the way people talk.
• 25:31 So I had to learn it when we moved here.
• 25:35 And I'm still learning it.
• 25:36 I like to say I'll be an [speaking in Hebrew] a eternal
• 25:39 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 25:41 Kirsten: Learner, yes?
• 25:42 Ha, ha.
• 25:44 So as a believer in Yeshua, if you don't mind me asking,
• 25:49 what difficulties do you face being in Israel and especially
• 25:53 in the Galilee, believing?
• 25:56 Carolyn: Having grown up in an orthodox synagogue,
• 25:58 I was taught as a child that the Nazis were Christians,
• 26:02 that all Christians hate me because I'm Jewish,
• 26:04 and so I--just that was how I grew up.
• 26:07 And so I understand that spirit that Saul had as he was writing
• 26:12 to Damascus, and so, you know, I always ask people,
• 26:16 "Please don't hate the orthodox.
• 26:18 Please just pray that they, like,
• 26:21 fall off their donkeys and see the light of Yeshua,
• 26:23 the love of Yeshua."
• 26:25 And I didn't know that love.
• 26:27 I had a supernatural vision of Yeshua,
• 26:30 that's how I came to faith.
• 26:32 And from the time we made Aliyah,
• 26:34 we love to share the best news ever.
• 26:39 Yeshua [speaking in Hebrew], Yeshua is the Lord.
• 26:43 Kirsten: Carolyn, you gorgeous woman,
• 26:45 thank you for becoming a new friend and taking your precious
• 26:48 time to share your heart with us.
• 26:50 If you resonated with Carolyn like we did,
• 26:54 look her up on the internet.
• 26:55 Her music is beautiful and most of it is from Israel.
• 26:59 She tapes right there.
• 27:01 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Yeah, my wife's real friendly
• 27:02 with Carolyn, too.
• 27:03 Kirsten: She's great.
• 27:05 We have more coming up next week, right?
• 27:07 David: Time to go.
• 27:08 Kirsten: More good stuff, all about Peter.
• 27:10 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Time to go now.
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