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• 00:01 David Hart: Shalom. Hello again. On today's program, Peter discovers Jesus is not only the Messiah,
• 00:09 but the Son of God. Coming up next on "Our Jewish Roots," with
• 00:11 Bible teaching by Dr. Jeffrey Seif.
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• 00:19 male narrator: Sunrise on the Galilee.
• 00:22 Simon Peter prepares his nets for a day at sea.
• 00:26 Much like the sea, Peter was unpredictable: calm and steady,
• 00:32 and then in an instant tempestuous.
• 00:35 As we reflect upon the Lord's most intriguing disciple, we can
• 00:39 see ourselves because we too have been broken and then
• 00:45 restored, we too in so many ways are much like Peter.
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• 00:56 David Hart: Thank you for joining us today.
• 00:57 I am David Hart.
• 00:58 Kirsten Hart: I'm Kirsten Hart.
• 01:00 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: I'm Jeffrey Seif.
• 01:01 David: So, we're halfway through this series on Peter.
• 01:03 You've seen miracles happen already in this series,
• 01:07 but I believe, Dr. Seif, there's much more to
• 01:09 come in the miracle business, yes?
• 01:10 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Well, there's a lot of miracles, you
• 01:12 know, and it's underscored in this program where Peter's
• 01:16 involved in an experience with the Lord.
• 01:19 A lot of times, church folk, there's a message, there's a
• 01:22 lesson, but this is an encounter that really is fantastic.
• 01:26 Kirsten: It is, it's interesting how Yeshua, his
• 01:30 Hebrew name, we call him Jesus in English, how he picked just
• 01:34 certain people, just a few, to come up and experience this,
• 01:37 what we call, it's a big name, transfiguration of the Messiah.
• 01:42 And Peter was one of 'em.
• 01:44 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Yeah, I think people need that, by the way.
• 01:46 If you're gonna, you know, be a leader in things
• 01:49 of the Lord, one needs to have some kind
• 01:50 of encounter where it's raw, where it's experiential.
• 01:55 Now, a lot of folk have problems with experiential religion, you
• 01:58 know, where, you know, church is just all about here's the
• 02:01 lesson, here's what it says in the Hebrew and the Greek.
• 02:03 Now, all that, I'll throw that stuff around too and I'm not
• 02:05 disparaging penetrating the biblical text, but if you
• 02:09 look at these disciples of Jesus, there are
• 02:11 signs and wonders, there's experience.
• 02:14 And I don't like a Christian telling of the story that just
• 02:17 works all that out, removes it from the story,
• 02:21 because it's so much part of the journey and
• 02:23 Peter discovered that in today's episode.
• 02:25 David: And it's written down so they experienced it
• 02:28 and they wrote it down, what they saw, so it's true.
• 02:31 We believe it.
• 02:32 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Yes, it really is.
• 02:34 They wanted posterity to know it.
• 02:35 It wasn't just for Peter to experience it,
• 02:38 but for students of the Jesus movement to
• 02:41 understand that that experience happened.
• 02:44 Kirsten: Can't wait. Thank you.
• 02:45 So much more that we'll jump in and dig into and--
• 02:49 David: Yes, we continue the story of Peter in Israel.
• 02:53 Let's go there right now.
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• 04:59 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Life with the Lord is often interesting,
• 05:03 but there are moments that are absolutely spectacular.
• 05:08 I mention that because we're gonna look at a moment here
• 05:11 where some of Yeshua's talmidim, some of Jesus's disciples, had a
• 05:16 spectacular awesome moment, and I want to explore with you--
• 05:22 various Gospel writers hark to the story.
• 05:25 I'm interested in the Mattean telling in
• 05:26 the Gospel of Matthew, chapter 17.
• 05:29 We're told in verse 1 that Kefa, Peter, Ya'aqov, or James, and
• 05:37 Yohanan, John, his brother, they come to a high mountain, and I'm
• 05:43 coming to you in a mountainous area in Israel.
• 05:46 Behind me may have well been the spot.
• 05:49 We're told there in verse 2, "Yeshua
• 05:52 was transfigured before them."
• 05:56 Trans is a Latin prefix for cross.
• 05:59 He took another figure, another form.
• 06:03 A flash of light, we're told, and there's an
• 06:06 expression here that struck me as odd.
• 06:08 We're told he became "as white as light."
• 06:13 Now that's interesting.
• 06:14 I think of a camera bulb flashing, that
• 06:16 split second, I mean, I don't know to what extent
• 06:20 people experienced that in antiquity.
• 06:22 The point here is this is something really special.
• 06:28 Jesus takes those in his inner circle
• 06:32 with him up to the mountain.
• 06:34 Now, the Lord does special things in mountains.
• 06:36 You know, Moshe Rabbeinu, Moses, took 'em up in a mountain.
• 06:40 This wasn't Har Sinay, not Mount Sinai, but there in a moment
• 06:44 after the flash, we're told, all of a sudden, Moshe Rabbeinu,
• 06:49 Moses, and Eliyyahu, Elijah, appear.
• 06:54 Now, both those figures are significant
• 06:58 in older testament literature.
• 07:00 Moshe Rabbeinu, Moses, was the law giver, he was
• 07:04 the prophet who put down the constitution for
• 07:09 the new economy for the Israelites.
• 07:12 Eliyyahu, Elijah, was a prophet, but he
• 07:15 was a non-writing prophet.
• 07:18 But there was a lot of spectacular
• 07:20 associated with his ministry.
• 07:22 Well, Moses too.
• 07:24 I don't wanna compare one against the other.
• 07:26 A variety of miracles are noted with both.
• 07:29 And here in a flash, these figures appear.
• 07:32 It really is interesting.
• 07:34 And we're told in the literature that there
• 07:37 they are, conversating with Yeshua.
• 07:40 It's fascinating.
• 07:42 Kefa, Peter, as we read on in Peter form,
• 07:46 "Well, Lord, what do you want me to do?
• 07:48 Do you want me to, you know, maybe build some tabernacles for
• 07:51 these guys, a sukkot, a booth, something to that effect?"
• 07:54 It's a glorious moment.
• 07:56 And the statement to build the booths might hark back to if you
• 08:03 look at the end of the book of Shemot, if you look at the very
• 08:06 end of Exodus, we're told there that when the Shekhinah,
• 08:09 when the cloud--when the tabernacle
• 08:13 was finished, the cloud was there.
• 08:15 The glory of the Lord was there.
• 08:19 Indeed, it's a spectacular moment, and Peter is kind of
• 08:23 thrown on his heels and he wants to do something.
• 08:27 By the way, that's the thing that I like about Peter.
• 08:30 He is impulsive, he wants to do things, and I like that.
• 08:34 And as inconsistent as he can be on occasion, and as unnecessary
• 08:40 as the building of the tabernacle was there and then,
• 08:45 the point is he's looking to use his energies
• 08:47 to contribute to what Yeshua's all about.
• 08:51 In much the same way as we, whether it's we're a musician,
• 08:54 we offer our talents to make--to bring the Lord into the room a
• 08:58 little more gloriously, whether it's we use our money
• 09:02 when we tithe, when we share, when we care,
• 09:04 in order to build up some sacred space.
• 09:07 Different people do different things to try and
• 09:09 advance the kingdom and that's meritous.
• 09:11 In this case, it was unnecessary.
• 09:12 The principal point here is less about what Peter
• 09:16 wants to do, though I did alight upon the
• 09:19 fact that he wanted to do something.
• 09:20 But principal here to my way of thinking, is that Yeshua is seen
• 09:25 there conversating with these two prophets.
• 09:29 You might recall in the Johannine Gospel, in the Gospel
• 09:32 of John, Yeshua had said, "If you'd listened to Moses, you'd
• 09:36 listen to Me, for Moses spoke of Me."
• 09:40 Not just Moses alone, but he was so
• 09:42 much the principal in Jewish thought.
• 09:45 You know, Moshe Rabbeinu was there conversating with Jesus,
• 09:49 and similarly Eliyyahu, Elijah, is himself giving voice, giving
• 09:55 credence in the person of Yohanan,
• 09:58 John the Baptist, who is noted previous to this as
• 10:03 the one, "Prepare the way of the Lord."
• 10:05 In Jewish culture, it was understood that Eliyyahu, that
• 10:09 Elijah, would come before the coming of the Lord.
• 10:13 Here, Moshe Rabbeinu, Moses the prophet, and Elijah
• 10:17 are there, and what are they doing?
• 10:19 They're conversating with Jesus.
• 10:21 It's this connecting the Jesus story to the older testament
• 10:25 principles that is of principal importance today.
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• 12:31 Israel, I hope you are enjoying the gorgeous footage of this
• 12:37 program, Dr. Seif, that's shot on Mount Arbel
• 12:41 with both cliffs behind him and the wildflowers.
• 12:44 Outstanding.
• 12:45 What you don't see is behind the scenes.
• 12:49 We have Israeli producers, we have
• 12:51 camera operators, we have equipment.
• 12:55 And I just learned this, this last time that we went to Israel
• 12:58 and actually just shot this series, is that we
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• 13:09 the gorgeous footage and the teaching of Dr. Seif.
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• 13:21 David: I've got to go back just a little bit about what you
• 13:23 were talking about, the flowers blooming where we were.
• 13:26 You also were not able to smell how beautiful.
• 13:30 It felt like we were in heaven when we were there filming, so
• 13:34 we just wanna say thank you so much.
• 13:35 Right now, let's journey back in time as Peter
• 13:38 continues to recall the Lord's magnificent
• 13:41 transfiguration high atop the Mount.
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• 15:37 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: There's an old Jewish prayer that says,
• 15:38 "Lord, don't listen to the prayers of pilgrims."
• 15:43 I mention that because pilgrims want dry weather
• 15:47 so they can make their way around.
• 15:49 But Israel was an agrarian culture, they want rain.
• 15:54 I mention that because it's misty and it's rainy here.
• 15:58 And we know when rain comes, good things come.
• 16:03 Good fruits come as a result of it.
• 16:05 We're looking at a snapshot here.
• 16:08 We're looking at a moment in the disciples's experience with
• 16:13 Yeshua where something very significant happened.
• 16:17 We see Yeshua appearing in a flash of heavenly light.
• 16:20 We see Moshe Rabbeinu, Moses, and Eliyyahu there with him.
• 16:26 There's a kind of congruence here
• 16:28 between the testament stories.
• 16:30 There's a credence here, that is that Yeshua
• 16:34 is the one of whom they spoke.
• 16:37 There's a kind of connectivity here.
• 16:40 There is--they're pointing to him
• 16:43 and here they are conversing with him.
• 16:46 Subsequent to which, we're told in the literature, and it really
• 16:49 is something, that a bright cloud overshadowed them.
• 16:53 We're told that it was a bright cloud and out of the cloud comes
• 16:58 a voice, saying, "This is My Son, whom I love.
• 17:04 I am well pleased.
• 17:06 Listen to Him!"
• 17:10 It's a fascinating story.
• 17:13 Those that were there in the hearing were these disciples.
• 17:17 Again, not only do you have tacitly with the presence of
• 17:22 Moses and Elijah giving credence to Jesus, then you
• 17:26 have a voice from heaven as well, "This is my Son,
• 17:31 whom I love, with whom I am well pleased.
• 17:36 Listen to him."
• 17:38 You have heaven's certification associated
• 17:43 with the person and the voice of Yeshua.
• 17:47 It's interesting, by the way, because Peter,
• 17:49 his original name, Simon, means to listen.
• 17:54 And would that we all listened well and listened to him.
• 18:01 I mention that, in the Gospels over and again, Yeshua will
• 18:05 speak and say, "He who has ears, let him hear."
• 18:10 Similarly, in the older testament, with Moshe Rabbeinu,
• 18:14 with Moses, you have the famous "Shema Y'srael,
• 18:17 Adonai Eloheinu, Adonai Echad."
• 18:18 "Hear, O Israel."
• 18:21 It's important to hear some kind of divine
• 18:24 intentionality to give credence to his voice.
• 18:28 And with that said, let me say that would begin
• 18:33 now with our paying attention to the newer
• 18:37 testament wherein Yeshua's voice is noted.
• 18:41 Thus you have the Synoptic Gospels,
• 18:44 I'm reading from one now.
• 18:45 You have the Johannine Gospel, the Gospel of John.
• 18:48 Therein, the things that Jesus said and did are noted and would
• 18:54 that we'd do well to pay attention.
• 18:56 Speaking of which, in 2 Peter chapter 1, verse 18, therein
• 19:02 Peter harks back to this moment that "we--we have heard the
• 19:07 voice," and we'd do well to pay attention.
• 19:12 It's fascinating it seems to me.
• 19:14 Well, it's interesting, I should say, that if you look at Peter,
• 19:17 as prominent as he was, he doesn't say much.
• 19:21 If you look at the Petrine literature, there are two texts
• 19:24 associated with him, 1 and 2 Peter.
• 19:27 And therein he harks back to this memorable experience.
• 19:31 Would that you remember it as well.
• 19:34 That is to say, the importance to listening to his voice.
• 19:40 If you're at a place in your life where you're a little
• 19:42 confused and you need to get your compass fixed to find that
• 19:45 north star, to find that direction, open up your Bible,
• 19:49 go to the Gospel literature, and read what the
• 19:53 Lord says and see what he might say to you through
• 19:59 it as you hear that still small voice.
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• 20:08 Kirsten: Throughout this whole series, I've got to give a
• 20:11 shout-out to our cameramen and our production team.
• 20:15 That shot of Dr. Seif on Mount Arbel, I think was one of the
• 20:19 most visually beautiful I've ever seen.
• 20:22 But the retelling of the story of this
• 20:24 transfiguration, that's a big word, was even better.
• 20:28 Thank you for bringing your insight.
• 20:31 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Well, you're kind.
• 20:32 Talk about shout-out, you know, God gave a shout-out
• 20:36 to his Son on that mountain, didn't he?
• 20:38 "This is the guy.
• 20:39 Listen to him."
• 20:41 Would that we heeded that.
• 20:43 Kirsten: And it's good.
• 20:44 Here's Peter, we're talking about Peter this whole series.
• 20:48 And God said, "Listen to him."
• 20:50 So, like, Peter had this proof, like, we're here walking by
• 20:54 faith in our lives, in our trust of who God is.
• 20:59 And here's Peter, I mean, he saw it, he heard it.
• 21:03 He heard it.
• 21:05 He knew that he knew that he knew.
• 21:06 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Yes, so hear it, you.
• 21:08 You, me, you.
• 21:10 "This is my Son.
• 21:12 Listen to him."
• 21:15 I don't know what your life is.
• 21:18 I don't know what problems you have.
• 21:20 But I do know if you listen to him, you're gonna
• 21:26 find something that you didn't know existed.
• 21:29 You're gonna find grace, love, reset button, direction in life.
• 21:35 Place a premium on listening to him.
• 21:41 Kirsten: Wow.
• 21:43 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: That's kind of pushy there.
• 21:44 Kirsten: You sure spoke to me.
• 21:45 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: That's a little pushy, but--
• 21:47 Kirsten: No, no, no, not pushy but true,
• 21:48 that you're speaking truth right now.
• 21:49 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: I wanna give a little force to it
• 21:51 because there's a little force coming from the mountain.
• 21:52 "This is my Son. Listen to him."
• 21:55 Now, God doesn't always speak to us from the clouds, thundering.
• 21:58 We hear that still small voice.
• 22:00 Kirsten: We do.
• 22:01 David: We all have testimonies of where
• 22:02 we came from, where we're at now.
• 22:05 My story of being in Hollywood trying to make it for a couple
• 22:08 of years of my life and knew what was right, but I'd
• 22:12 literally heard--I literally heard God's voice every day for
• 22:16 a couple of years when I was trying just about anything I
• 22:19 could to make it in Hollywood, but that was my next step in
• 22:22 life, God saying, "No, Dave, you know that you
• 22:25 need to be living for me, serving me."
• 22:29 And when I finally listened to that small voice,
• 22:33 met my wife, my children, we're with you.
• 22:37 God has blessed me because I listened
• 22:39 and obeyed that small voice.
• 22:41 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Isn't that something?
• 22:42 Listen to him.
• 22:46 So simple, so profound. So true.
• 22:51 And to your point, history comes replete with many examples of
• 22:57 turned around lives, people who, instead of doing it their own
• 23:01 way, decided to turn and do it his way.
• 23:04 And life was glorious subsequent to that.
• 23:08 Kirsten: And that Peter and the disciples was the three,
• 23:11 these three guys that Yeshua, Messiah,
• 23:14 handpicked, got to see him in his glory.
• 23:18 And not to too much humanize Messiah, but he must have
• 23:24 thought, "Oh, this is kind of neat.
• 23:26 I get to show you, really, here's who I am.
• 23:29 Let me bring along these two other guys."
• 23:32 Oh my gosh.
• 23:33 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: He probably thought he was special.
• 23:34 Wow, what an honor, what a privilege,
• 23:36 to be here for this moment.
• 23:38 And Peter was awed, and--awed, not odd.
• 23:43 He was O-D-D, but he was awestruck
• 23:46 by the moment, to be sure.
• 23:48 Kirsten: Yeah, and Moses and Elijah.
• 23:51 So the law and the prophets, right there represented.
• 23:54 David: More miracles to come in the series, yes?
• 23:56 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Yes.
• 23:57 And talk about miracles, transformed lives.
• 24:00 I hope you get the transformation.
• 24:01 Hey, thanks for going with us on the journey.
• 24:03 As you go now, until next week, Shaalu shalom Yerushalayim.
• 24:08 David: Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
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