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• 00:01 David Hart: Coming up on "Zola Levitt Presents," Satan's very last battle
• 00:06 on planet earth. Stay tuned.
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• 00:11 male announcer: "Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God
• 00:14 for Israel is that they might be saved.
• 00:18 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek:
• 00:21 for the same Lord over all is rich unto all
• 00:24 that call upon him."
• 00:26 "Zola Levitt Presents."
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• 00:44 David: Hi friends, welcome to "Zola Levitt Presents."
• 00:46 I'm David Hart.
• 00:47 Kirsten Hart: And I'm Kirsten Hart.
• 00:48 Jeffrey Seif: Jeffrey Seif.
• 00:50 David: Yes, thank you for joining us again in our series,
• 00:52 "Thy Kingdom Come."
• 00:53 First aired in 2001 with our wonderful founder, Zola Levitt.
• 00:59 But we have you with us today, Dr. Seif.
• 01:01 We're so glad you're back with us.
• 01:03 Jeffrey: Yes, and we have Zola again.
• 01:04 There's an old saying, "The long arm of the pen reaches
• 01:07 beyond the grave."
• 01:08 We hear his voice years later, and it's a biblical voice.
• 01:11 Why not?
• 01:12 Kirsten: It's a good voice. David: And great teaching.
• 01:14 Kirsten: Yeah, and Zola today will teaching on the end of the
• 01:17 1,000-year reign of Christ when Satan is once again released.
• 01:21 Why?
• 01:23 Can't we just keep him where he should be?
• 01:26 Jeffrey: It's an interesting story.
• 01:28 We're gonna take a look at the book.
• 01:29 Zola does, we do too.
• 01:32 David: That's right.
• 01:33 More with you, Dr. Seif, in a bit, but right now,
• 01:34 let's go to Israel with teaching from Zola Levitt.
• 01:39 Zola Levitt: Well, throughout this series about the future,
• 01:41 it's been problematic where to place certain lessons.
• 01:45 I mean, after all, where do you film eternity?
• 01:47 That sort of thing.
• 01:48 We didn't have a new heaven, a new earth, and a new Jerusalem,
• 01:51 but we found something.
• 01:53 And in this case, we're gonna talk about this last battle on
• 01:56 earth, the--it's called an invasion of Gog and Magog,
• 02:00 even though there's a previous battle by that same name.
• 02:03 I'll make that clear.
• 02:05 And we came to this area.
• 02:07 This is the Valley of Elah, where actually David
• 02:10 had a battle with Goliath.
• 02:12 This is a famous valley, and nowadays it's the home of giant
• 02:16 satellite dishes that watch the sky, that send uplinks,
• 02:20 that pick up signals from satellites, and so on.
• 02:23 And to stage a battle or picture a battle 1,000 years
• 02:26 in the future is very hard to do, but perhaps
• 02:30 these giant discs are part of it.
• 02:32 In any case, the first battle of Gog and Magog
• 02:35 you'll recall in Ezekiel 38.
• 02:38 This is the one we call the coming Russian invasion
• 02:41 of Israel sometimes.
• 02:43 Dr. McCall and I have written a book that has been updated
• 02:46 steadily as this battle seems to draw closer.
• 02:50 The chapter begins in Ezekiel 38 this way,
• 02:52 "And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
• 02:55 Son of man, set thy face against Gog,
• 02:59 the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech
• 03:02 and Tubal, and prophesy against him, And say,
• 03:05 Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee,
• 03:07 O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal."
• 03:11 So we have a place called Magog and a leader called Gog,
• 03:15 evidently, and its capital cities are Meshech and Tubal,
• 03:19 which always suggested Moscow and Tobolsk in Russia,
• 03:22 but don't know.
• 03:24 Place names change over time.
• 03:26 And he describes an invasion here and he gives some allies
• 03:29 in the fifth and sixth verses.
• 03:32 "Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with
• 03:35 shield and helmet: Gomer, and all his bands;
• 03:38 the house of Togarmah of the north quarters,
• 03:41 and all his bands: and many people with thee."
• 03:44 It's a very reasonable and logical invasion of Israel
• 03:47 that could happen any time.
• 03:50 Persia, which is the Iran/Iraq complex, even including Syria
• 03:54 and Jordan in the great days of the Persian Empire.
• 03:58 Ethiopia, of course, the voices from the south, and Sudan,
• 04:05 and perhaps southern Egypt is involved.
• 04:08 And Libya, it goes without saying.
• 04:10 Gomer refers to the area in southern Europe
• 04:15 around the Danube.
• 04:17 That is Bosnia, that sort of area.
• 04:19 And Togarmah of the north quarters would be north
• 04:23 of the Caucasus Mountains.
• 04:26 It makes a reasonable invasion.
• 04:28 In fact, I would say more than reasonable.
• 04:30 I would say at 2,500 years range, it's quite a prophecy.
• 04:35 Who would like to prophesy what might happen in Europe say
• 04:37 2,500 years from now?
• 04:39 Anyhow, there is this invasion and it's before
• 04:44 the Tribulation--well, at the beginning of the Tribulation.
• 04:47 I'll give you the reason why I think that.
• 04:50 It says, "Thou shalt say," in verse 11,
• 04:52 "I will go up to the land of unwalled villages;
• 04:55 I will go to them that are at rest,
• 04:56 that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls,
• 04:59 and having neither bars nor gates."
• 05:01 It's a pretty good estimation of modern Israel.
• 05:05 "To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand
• 05:08 upon the desolate places that are now inhabited."
• 05:11 See, Israel was dispersed and now is back.
• 05:14 "And upon the people that are gathered out of the nations,"
• 05:16 that certainly describes the Jews, "which have gotten cattle
• 05:20 and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land," and so on.
• 05:22 And he goes on to describe quite an invasion.
• 05:26 He's against it, that's for sure.
• 05:28 "Thus saith the Lord God; Art thou he of whom I have spoken
• 05:31 in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel,
• 05:35 which prophesied in those days many years
• 05:37 that I would bring thee against them?"
• 05:39 That's Ezekiel 38:17.
• 05:41 And it goes on, "And it shall come to pass at the same time
• 05:44 when Gog shall come against the land of Israel,
• 05:46 saith the Lord God, that my fury shall come up in my face."
• 05:50 And, oh, he's angry.
• 05:52 And the next few verses are some of the most vituperative
• 05:55 verses in the Old Testament.
• 05:57 In verse 22, "I will plead against him with pestilence
• 06:00 and with blood; I will rain upon him, and upon his bands,
• 06:03 and upon the many people that are with him,
• 06:05 an overflowing rain, and great hailstones,
• 06:08 fire, and brimstone."
• 06:10 God doesn't like this invasion, and he wipes it out on his own.
• 06:14 God has fought some of Israel's battles.
• 06:16 We're gonna talk about that.
• 06:18 Ezekiel 39:9 tells us that they're gonna have to burn
• 06:23 the weapons for seven years after this big battle,
• 06:25 and that's what urges me to put it at the beginning
• 06:28 of the Tribulation.
• 06:29 Otherwise, it would be-- if it were part of Armageddon
• 06:32 as some teach, gosh, those seven years would be
• 06:35 sticking out in the kingdom.
• 06:36 There'd be peace on earth, the lion lying down with the lamb,
• 06:39 everyone worshiping the Lord at the Feast of Tabernacles,
• 06:42 and people busy burning weapons
• 06:44 and burning weapons for seven years.
• 06:46 It just doesn't sound right.
• 06:47 The 7-year period would work if it's right at the beginning
• 06:50 of the Tribulation and I think that's what will happen.
• 06:54 Now, Revelation 20, verses 7 to 9,
• 06:57 which are definitely at the end of the kingdom,
• 06:59 have another battle called Gog and Magog.
• 07:02 It says clearly, "And when the thousand years are expired,"
• 07:06 no question that's the end of the kingdom,
• 07:08 "Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,"
• 07:10 where he has been bound, "And shall go out to deceive
• 07:12 the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth,
• 07:15 Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle:
• 07:18 the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
• 07:20 And they went up on the breadth of the earth,
• 07:22 and compassed the camp of the saints about,
• 07:25 and the beloved city," that's Jerusalem certainly,
• 07:29 "and fire came down from God out of heaven,
• 07:31 and devoured them."
• 07:32 A similar ending, God again doesn't like this invasion
• 07:35 of Gog and Magog, but this is a different one obviously.
• 07:39 It's at the very end.
• 07:40 It's interesting, it's the sinners' last battle.
• 07:43 In fact, there's argument to say that this battle is the end
• 07:47 of sin in this world, because right after in the next verse,
• 07:51 it's the great white throne of judgment.
• 07:53 So, Gog and Magog number one is localized,
• 07:57 in our time almost.
• 07:59 Look, there's no reason it wouldn't be next Monday.
• 08:01 I mean, every prophecy is in place now
• 08:04 for this invasion to happen.
• 08:06 It's logical. It's reasonable.
• 08:08 We even have a reason.
• 08:10 With the whole world, with the media turning against Israel in
• 08:12 what I've come to call the CNN war, 'cause there's no war here,
• 08:15 but they say there is, with the world turning against Israel,
• 08:20 then you have a situation where an invasion
• 08:23 like this becomes logical.
• 08:25 There's reason for it.
• 08:27 But it's localized against Israel, only Israel.
• 08:31 It's not a rebellion against the Lord who's not here now,
• 08:35 and hasn't come back now, and won't come to the earth
• 08:38 until the second coming.
• 08:40 And so, it's a different battle.
• 08:43 Also, Gog and Magog number two, the end of the kingdom,
• 08:48 is a worldwide battle.
• 08:50 It says he convinces all these nations and so on,
• 08:53 and it is versing* Jesus against his kingdom.
• 08:57 They are attacking the kingdom on earth,
• 09:01 of which Jesus is the King.
• 09:02 Both of the wars ultimately, of course,
• 09:04 are against God and God knows it.
• 09:07 And Deuteronomy 3:22 says, "Ye shall not fear them:
• 09:11 for the Lord your God he shall fight for you.
• 09:14 And I besought the Lord at that time, saying,
• 09:16 O Lord God, thou hast begun to shew thy servant thy greatness,
• 09:19 and thy mighty hand: for what God is there
• 09:22 in heaven or in earth, that can do according
• 09:24 to thy works, and according to thy might?"
• 09:27 It's an old story.
• 09:29 God chose a people, promised them a land, and he's gonna
• 09:31 protect 'em right on through from the beginning in
• 09:34 Deuteronomy when they get there to the end in Revelation
• 09:37 when the great white throne of judgment will happen.
• 09:42 ♪♪♪
• 09:52 announcer: Our offer on this program,
• 09:54 "Coming: The End! Russia and Israel in Prophecy,"
• 09:57 written by Zola Levitt with Dr. Thomas S. McCall.
• 10:01 Both book and CD are available.
• 10:03 The Bible tells of a northern ground army descending upon
• 10:06 Israel shortly before the return of Christ.
• 10:09 Learn more about one of history's most startling wars
• 10:13 before it takes place in "Coming: The End!
• 10:17 Russia and Israel in Prophecy."
• 10:21 ♪♪♪
• 10:31 ♪♪♪
• 10:41 ♪♪♪
• 10:54 Kirsten: God has defended and protected the land of Israel
• 10:58 since the time of Abraham, and you have the opportunity
• 11:02 to go and see this beautiful and safe holy land.
• 11:06 We'd love for you to tour with us.
• 11:08 Go to levitt.com, our website, click on the tour page,
• 11:10 and find out more information.
• 11:12 Now, let's go back to Zola in Israel.
• 11:16 Zola: People from America are just bowled over.
• 11:18 If you, you know, have been reading the Bible all your life,
• 11:21 going to Sunday school, and then you're driving down a road and,
• 11:23 I mean, hear, "Samson and Delilah weren't here.
• 11:28 You know, Joshua wasn't here," et cetera, et cetera,
• 11:32 one after another, it's like it almost blows up in your face.
• 11:36 It's really something.
• 11:38 And I keep emphasizing, I don't want to beat the subject
• 11:43 to death, but we have a tour with us right now.
• 11:45 There's nothing here at all.
• 11:47 The CNN war isn't really happening so far as we can tell.
• 11:51 Now, some of the wars that God has taken care of
• 11:54 for the Israelis, well, he's really taken care
• 11:56 of all of them, hasn't he?
• 11:58 He's their God, they are his people,
• 11:59 but most notably big battles.
• 12:04 Exodus is the most tremendous.
• 12:07 The number varies from 600,000
• 12:09 to 2 1/2 million slaves left Egypt.
• 12:12 But anyway, they were pursued by an Egyptian force
• 12:15 that knew the territory.
• 12:17 They knew the sand, they knew the desert,
• 12:21 they knew the harbor.
• 12:23 They just didn't know that once the sea parted, it could unpart.
• 12:27 And that's what God took care of for them,
• 12:29 so their original deliverance out of Egypt
• 12:32 certainly was a God-given miracle.
• 12:36 Then when they came to Jericho, you know, they were facing
• 12:40 a city with walls 11 feet thick, by the way.
• 12:45 And on top of those walls, archers, and spear throwers,
• 12:50 and people who were used to being attacked
• 12:53 from the riverside had defended the place many times,
• 12:57 but they hadn't anticipated people coming to blow trumpets
• 13:01 at the walls and encompass the city round about
• 13:04 and shout with great shouts.
• 13:06 And so, God took care of that battle
• 13:08 in a rather miraculous way.
• 13:11 Then of course there were the various battles
• 13:13 with the Philistines like the one in this valley.
• 13:16 David faced Goliath was one of those battles.
• 13:18 They battled them quite a lot in these parts.
• 13:21 The Philistines were Greeks who came down from the Adriatic Sea.
• 13:25 They settled along a lot of the coastlines in the Middle East,
• 13:28 plying their seagoing ventures.
• 13:31 They fished, and they shipped, and so on.
• 13:34 They had a lot of marine industry.
• 13:36 And the Philistines were here for a while
• 13:38 and then they drop out of history.
• 13:40 There's no relation between them
• 13:42 and what are called today the Palestinians.
• 13:44 They were not Arabs.
• 13:45 There were no Arabs in the world when the Philistines were here.
• 13:48 And after the Philistines left, you would wait centuries before
• 13:50 the first Arab was in the world, so the claim that they go back
• 13:54 to the ancient Philistines is spurious.
• 13:58 The battle with the Amorites is a surprising one.
• 14:02 Joshua 10:13-14 says, "And the sun stood still,
• 14:07 and the moon stayed, until the people
• 14:10 had avenged themselves upon their enemies."
• 14:13 Of course, this is an amazing day.
• 14:15 The Scripture goes on, "So the sun stood still in the midst
• 14:18 of heaven, and hasted not to go down for about a whole day.
• 14:22 And there was no day like that before it or after it,
• 14:25 that the Lord hearkened unto the voice of a man:
• 14:27 for the Lord fought for Israel."
• 14:30 And that is what he did at that time.
• 14:32 The battle with the Amorites was one of many
• 14:35 that he interceded in remarkable ways.
• 14:39 And Israelis lost some battles, too, for sure.
• 14:42 The ten lost tribes were carried off.
• 14:44 The tribes of Judah finally carried off also.
• 14:48 But in those cases, God said, "I'm gonna punish my people.
• 14:52 I'm gonna bring the families of the north, and Nebuchadnezzar,
• 14:55 and so on, the Chaldees.
• 14:57 They're going to take away the tribes."
• 15:00 The Assyrians who took away the ten tribes,
• 15:02 that was another punishment.
• 15:04 So, it's still God operating a battlefield,
• 15:06 but this time as a discipline.
• 15:08 Israel's modern wars, though, if we jump to the history
• 15:12 in this century, we can see that God evidently is either
• 15:16 still fighting with them, I mean, fighting for them,
• 15:20 or they have become brilliant soldiers overnight
• 15:23 because they have won all these wars in no time.
• 15:27 I mean, the war of independence in 1948,
• 15:30 they fought five Arab nations.
• 15:32 I mean, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon,
• 15:35 Saudi Arabia sent soldiers.
• 15:37 Other Arab nations sent weapons, et cetera,
• 15:40 and they all fell upon not a nation,
• 15:43 but you know, a few revolutionaries,
• 15:45 rather like in the American Revolution
• 15:48 when the British Red Coats came marching in
• 15:51 and arrived in big ships and all that with their
• 15:54 fancy weapons, but they lost.
• 15:56 God fought for his people in the war of independence,
• 15:58 and a nation, they say, was born in a day,
• 16:00 like the Scripture says.
• 16:03 The war in 1956 against the Egyptians, primarily the
• 16:07 Israelis vanquished them almost overnight.
• 16:11 The so-called Six-Day War was amazing because it literally
• 16:16 lasted only six days and Israel decisively defeated Egypt,
• 16:21 Syria, and Jordan.
• 16:23 And it was said they could have occupied Cairo.
• 16:26 They could have occupied Damascus.
• 16:28 I mean, they pummeled them in six days.
• 16:31 There was no contest.
• 16:34 In the fourth war in 1973, the Arabs did a cowardly attack
• 16:38 on Yom Kippur, the holiest day of the year,
• 16:41 when most soldiers were at their prayers and so on,
• 16:43 and they did get in a first punch, but then
• 16:45 in two or three weeks the Israelis turned it around,
• 16:47 defended themselves valiantly still once again.
• 16:51 People say that the incursion into Lebanon in the '80s
• 16:55 was an Israeli war, but it really wasn't.
• 16:58 The Israelis were up there as part of it.
• 16:59 There was quite a bit of fighting in Lebanon because the
• 17:03 Palestinians had moved in there and, well,
• 17:06 there was the usual friction that seems to follow them.
• 17:10 And General Sharon, who is now the prime minister,
• 17:12 and the Israelis were in Lebanon at the time
• 17:16 of the massacres at Sabra and Shatila.
• 17:19 The Israelis did not fire a shot, but Sharon was accused
• 17:22 of not defending refugee camps against the Christian Phalanges,
• 17:27 their enemies.
• 17:29 The Middle East is rather complicated.
• 17:32 Israel's modern wars, and you might call
• 17:35 these latest intifadas.
• 17:38 In 1987, the children who threw stones,
• 17:41 it looks as though that's a war but it's not a war.
• 17:44 It's a media war.
• 17:46 It reminds me of when the publisher
• 17:48 William Randolph Hearst said to a photographer,
• 17:51 "You get me the pictures, I'll provide the war."
• 17:54 If you have a lot of newspaper, you have TV especially,
• 17:56 you can pretend there's a war somewhere.
• 17:59 Get the tape of the movie "Wag the Dog."
• 18:01 It's about a bogus war made up by the media to cover up
• 18:06 some embarrassment in Washington.
• 18:08 We saw it in the Clinton Administration.
• 18:10 We've seen it right along.
• 18:12 Presidents drum up wars overnight to fake the headlines
• 18:15 away from some mistake they've made and so forth.
• 18:19 This is not a war, but it's an unpleasant situation.
• 18:23 We've had it in America too, which is that poor people
• 18:26 get angry, they riot.
• 18:29 There are problems.
• 18:30 We just finished having it in Cincinnati,
• 18:32 even while this is going on, but this got all the headlines.
• 18:35 And as you can see, this valley is about like
• 18:38 the rest of Israel.
• 18:40 It's about that peaceful.
• 18:42 Well, that ending invasion at the end of the kingdom,
• 18:46 that last invasion of Gog and Magog is significant
• 18:50 'cause as I said, it seems to be the end of sin,
• 18:53 the last sin.
• 18:55 You know, the first sin was way back in the Garden of Eden.
• 18:57 This evidently is the last sin according to Scripture.
• 19:00 Revelation 20, verse 10, "And the devil that deceived them
• 19:04 was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone."
• 19:07 Remember the fire and brimstone from the first invasion
• 19:11 of Gog and Magog?
• 19:13 "Where the beast and the false prophet are,
• 19:15 and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever."
• 19:19 The last sin is a grave one, and God has had about enough
• 19:24 and finishes off the rebels for once and for all,
• 19:27 and that makes an end of sin.
• 19:29 Like the very next verse of the Scripture is about the great
• 19:32 white throne of judgment, so that's it.
• 19:35 So from the beginning, God has seemed to fight for Israel and
• 19:40 he has had two major invasions to handle called Gog and Magog,
• 19:45 one before the Tribulation, I think,
• 19:47 or just at the beginning of the Tribulation period,
• 19:50 and the other sort of heralds the end of the kingdom to come.
• 19:54 ♪♪♪
• 20:01 announcer: Our offer on this program, "Coming: The End!
• 20:05 Russia and Israel in Prophecy," written by Zola Levitt
• 20:09 with Dr. Thomas S. McCall.
• 20:10 Both book and CD are available.
• 20:13 The Bible tells of a northern ground army descending
• 20:16 upon Israel shortly before the return of Christ.
• 20:19 Learn more about one of history's most startling wars
• 20:23 before it takes place in "Coming: The End!
• 20:27 Russia and Israel in Prophecy."
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• 21:11 Kirsten: This series was filmed in 2001.
• 21:14 It's a few years ago, but it's still relevant.
• 21:17 David: It feels like Zola was just teaching.
• 21:19 Kirsten: Yeah, I mean, it is relevant today, right?
• 21:22 We should be studying this.
• 21:23 Jeffrey: Well, is it relevant?
• 21:25 Let's see, girl.
• 21:26 Iran is really 20 miles away from the Israeli border,
• 21:30 Iranian proxies.
• 21:32 Russian intrigue in Syria, that world pressing upon Israel.
• 21:38 The question, is it relevant today?
• 21:39 It could be said that it's more relevant today than
• 21:43 it was yesterday when Zola was looking at the Russian invasion
• 21:46 and all that this stuff entitled.
• 21:49 David: Those places are in the news a whole lot right now.
• 21:52 Jeffrey: Dave, it really is true.
• 21:55 And what Zola did well, and what we endeavor to do,
• 21:59 and what every generation needs to do is look
• 22:01 at the newspaper in one hand and the Bible in the other,
• 22:04 see if we can get them to talk to each other.
• 22:06 Here they're not just taking, they're making out,
• 22:08 they're kissing.
• 22:10 What do you think David?
• 22:11 David: Sounds good to me.
• 22:13 Jeffrey: It's a fascinating story.
• 22:14 You know, and at the risk of sounding entrepreneurial in
• 22:17 this, to seize a moment, to have a newspaper in one hand
• 22:20 and a Bible in the other, everyone that wants one
• 22:23 has a Bible.
• 22:25 Not everyone has a responsible look at the good news
• 22:27 from the eyes of the Jews, and that's what
• 22:30 "Zola Levitt Presents" does.
• 22:32 Whether he's presenting from the past or we're speaking
• 22:35 at the moment, whether he's speaking
• 22:38 from the past or we're speaking at the moment,
• 22:40 it takes help to get the message out.
• 22:43 We wanna get the story straight, but I wanna ask you,
• 22:47 please help us to get the story out.
• 22:51 We're looking at the good news through the eyes of the Jews,
• 22:55 and that's a story not often told, and we really,
• 22:58 really need your help in the telling.
• 23:02 I know there's a lot of things that are competing for your time
• 23:05 and attention, never mind your dollars, but please prayerfully
• 23:09 consider supporting "Zola Levitt Presents."
• 23:14 That's a mouthful.
• 23:15 Kirsten: No, you're good. But it is so important.
• 23:18 We need to be studying. We need to be learning.
• 23:21 Even from way back in--I mean, it sounds like way back,
• 23:24 in 2001.
• 23:26 We need that Word and that's why we're bringing back Zola.
• 23:29 Jeffrey: If you look at nationally syndicated
• 23:31 television, they send their correspondence out there
• 23:34 with their cameras.
• 23:35 Here, we're good news correspondents getting
• 23:38 into the middle of the prophetic story.
• 23:41 We don't have the millions of dollars of ABC,
• 23:43 NBC, CBS, and all these letters,
• 23:47 but ZLM needs to get there with the Bible
• 23:51 and let viewers know what's happening in the world.
• 23:53 That's why I'm, you know, pressing a little bit.
• 23:56 Help us to do the telling.
• 23:58 David: Right.
• 23:59 As believers, we're all believers,
• 24:01 how do we live our lives daily without being worried
• 24:04 when we turn on the news and see what's going on
• 24:06 in the world today?
• 24:07 Jeffrey: You know, and that's the million dollar question.
• 24:10 It can cause a bit of anxiety.
• 24:13 Zola will argue and many with him that believers are raptured
• 24:18 out of harm's way before the devil has his day,
• 24:21 and that surely is good news.
• 24:24 David: That is great news.
• 24:25 Jeffrey: Yes, we have our trials and tribulations,
• 24:27 but there's a verse in Scripture that says that God
• 24:30 has not destined us for the wrath to come.
• 24:33 This unrolling of horrific affairs comes in the wake
• 24:38 of our departure to be with the Lord.
• 24:40 Kirsten: And Satan is let loose again.
• 24:43 That's what I don't understand.
• 24:44 After 1,000 years he's let loose.
• 24:46 I don't think--I wouldn't think anyone would follow him
• 24:50 after being under the reign of Christ.
• 24:52 Jeffrey: Well, I'll tell you what, I am not surprised.
• 24:55 Between 62 years of living and having experience with a lot
• 24:58 of people in a lot of capacities as a police officer,
• 25:01 as a pastor, a theologian, nothing surprises me.
• 25:05 I've seen a lot of unreasonable stuff that doesn't make sense.
• 25:09 It does say in the text, though, and here's where we get it.
• 25:11 Again, to review Revelation 20, we're told,
• 25:14 "When the thousand years has ended,
• 25:16 Satan will be released and he shall come out
• 25:19 and deceive nations from the four corners, Gog and Magog,
• 25:22 to gather them for battle."
• 25:24 We're told the number will be like the sand of the sea.
• 25:28 And they came out on a broad plain, and thump,
• 25:31 then is the war to end all wars.
• 25:34 Kirsten: And is that the Gog and Magog?
• 25:36 Jeffrey: Yes, arguably that comes there.
• 25:39 He says specifically, "Gog and Magog."
• 25:42 Goodbye, final battle.
• 25:45 Right now, the devil has his day,
• 25:48 but there's a new day dawning.
• 25:51 Kirsten: And that's what we're all about.
• 25:53 Jeffrey: Well, I wanna be about the good news.
• 25:55 Kirsten: Right, and there is good news to share.
• 25:58 Jeffrey: Yes, there is.
• 25:59 People can be depressed, repressed, suppressed,
• 26:02 and pressed.
• 26:03 People need to be lifted up.
• 26:05 Kirsten: I agree.
• 26:06 David: Here's a question and I'm putting you on the spot.
• 26:08 Do you ever get in that spot that you just mentioned,
• 26:12 depress--not depression, but anxiety, or are you able
• 26:15 to work through that?
• 26:17 Jeffrey: I mean, we all do.
• 26:19 And anybody that says they don't,
• 26:20 I just think they're not telling the truth.
• 26:22 You know, but I go to my knees, I go to my devotions,
• 26:25 I go to my wife, I go to the Lord in prayer,
• 26:28 and the Lord lifts me up.
• 26:29 David: Yeah.
• 26:31 Kirsten: And that's our message here
• 26:32 on "Zola Levitt Presents."
• 26:34 Please join us next week as we continue this series
• 26:37 with Dr. Jeffrey Seif and Zola.
• 26:39 Would you do the honors of closing out our program?
• 26:42 Jeffrey: It's my pleasure.
• 26:43 Sha'alu shalom Yerushalayim.
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