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• 00:01 ♪♪♪
• 00:03 male announcer: Welcome to "Our Jewish Roots" with insightful
• 00:06 Bible teaching by Dr. Jeffrey Seif.
• 00:10 ♪♪♪
• 00:28 David Hart: We're so glad you've joined us today.
• 00:30 I'm David Hart.
• 00:31 Kirsten Hart: I'm Kirsten Hart.
• 00:33 Jeffrey Seif: Jeffrey Seif here, and bad news here.
• 00:37 Revelation 8, 9, and 10, is where we're staring, and I'm
• 00:41 telling you, there's some tough stuff, but we need to have
• 00:44 a look.
• 00:45 David: And you have to teach about it.
• 00:47 It's probably not fun.
• 00:49 Jeffrey: Well, you know, it's not.
• 00:51 David: Not good news, yeah.
• 00:52 Jeffrey: It isn't, and I don't want people just to go, "click,"
• 00:54 but there's spiritual problems on earth, you know, and
• 00:58 someone's identified in this, in chapter 9, verse 11,
• 01:01 Abaddon, Apollyon.
• 01:04 This is the destroyer.
• 01:06 It's one of the devil's name, and he wreaks havoc.
• 01:09 He does it here in the literature.
• 01:11 He does it in the world.
• 01:13 He's gonna have his day later on, but now he seems to be
• 01:16 running a little wild here in the literature.
• 01:18 Kirsten: And today we're talking about--I mean, there's plagues,
• 01:20 there's famine, there's all kinds of horrible things.
• 01:23 We've walked through, in the world, the coronavirus.
• 01:26 That--probably a little lighter than what they're talking
• 01:29 about there?
• 01:32 Jeffrey: Well, yes--not to make light of something that has
• 01:34 affected millions, but at the end of the day, here, a large
• 01:37 percentage of the world are destroyed according to this,
• 01:41 literal, figurative.
• 01:43 The reader is supposed to understand there's a bad
• 01:46 moon rising.
• 01:48 David: That's right, Dr. Seif is taking us to Revelation 8.
• 01:51 Let's go there right now.
• 01:53 ♪♪♪
• 01:57 Jeffrey: People have problems in their life, and they go to
• 02:01 church, they turn on Christian television.
• 02:04 They want some relief.
• 02:06 If that's the name of the game, turn the channel because I'm not
• 02:11 gonna be able to take your mind off of problems.
• 02:15 I've got problems on steroids, but don't shoot the messenger.
• 02:20 We're in the book of Revelation, and this is really getting bad.
• 02:27 Now, this segment is not gonna be delightful.
• 02:30 The one to follow is not gonna be much better.
• 02:33 The story does get better, but I have to beg your
• 02:36 indulgence here.
• 02:38 If you're just lookin' for happy-clappy, that's not what
• 02:40 we're seeing now because in advance of the dawning of the
• 02:44 messianic era, the devil is game to have his day, and there are a
• 02:50 variety of woes unleashed on the planet.
• 02:56 Biblical people have been thrown up against turbulent times
• 02:58 on occasion.
• 02:59 It seems to go with the territory.
• 03:01 David was thrown up against it.
• 03:03 He moved forward against the Philistines.
• 03:05 Abraham was thrown up against it.
• 03:07 He moved forward against uncertainty.
• 03:09 Esther was thrown up against it, but she decided, "Listen, I just
• 03:13 gotta go with my heart and go with my people, and if I perish,
• 03:16 I perish."
• 03:18 You know, sometimes we just push forward, but they're not
• 03:19 easy days.
• 03:21 I mention that because here we are, chapter 8 of the book of
• 03:25 Revelation, and there are some trumpet blowing.
• 03:29 Trumpet blowing can herald good news, but here in this case, the
• 03:32 trumpet sounds to herald bad things to come.
• 03:36 In chapter 8, verse 7, this trumpeter blasts, and this
• 03:40 announces "hail and fire mixed with blood, and thrown upon the
• 03:47 earth," you know, a rain shower, if you will, of blood and hail
• 03:53 and fire.
• 03:56 And it's some kind of nuclear fallout, kind of, arrangement.
• 04:00 We're told, "A third of the earth burned up.
• 04:04 A third of the earth burned up, a third of the trees burned up,
• 04:07 and all the grass burned up."
• 04:10 I mean, I don't know what we're looking at here right now
• 04:13 particularly, but I know that this would jolt the
• 04:16 sensibilities of a first-century hearer.
• 04:20 It doesn't get a lot better.
• 04:23 Then there's another messenger that comes, blows the trumpet,
• 04:25 and another set of cataclysmic events.
• 04:29 In verse 8, "The trumpet sounds, and something like a huge
• 04:34 mountain ablaze with fire was thrown into the sea."
• 04:38 Now, I should just say that, not long before this, Vesuvius
• 04:41 exploded in another part of the Mediterranean world, and so
• 04:47 readers would've known something about that, "boom."
• 04:51 You know, a mountain burst.
• 04:54 It's thrown into the sea.
• 04:56 "The seas turned to blood."
• 04:59 We're told, "A third of the creatures in the sea died, and a
• 05:02 third of the ships were destroyed."
• 05:05 We're looking here at plagues that are unleashed.
• 05:08 It's not a good story.
• 05:10 And like I said at the outset, people wanna hear good news when
• 05:13 they turn our way, but there are plagues falling here now.
• 05:18 Good news is coming, but we're not there yet, and I don't wanna
• 05:21 sugarcoat the bad news.
• 05:24 You know what it is.
• 05:26 I, we experience the turbulence of trying times, but it seems
• 05:29 just like birth pangs of travail seem to tense up before the
• 05:33 moment of the great deliverance, similarly here the world seems
• 05:37 to be in the throes.
• 05:39 It's convulsing.
• 05:42 But then there is going to be the kingdom coming at the end of
• 05:44 it all.
• 05:46 But before we get there in verse 10, "A great star falls from
• 05:49 heaven," we're told, burning like a torch.
• 05:52 It fell on a third of the rivers and on the springs of
• 05:54 the waters."
• 05:56 "Boom, boom," I mean, this is cataclysmic.
• 06:00 This is the world, as we know it, in effect, coming unglued.
• 06:06 We're told that the water is poison, and people can't
• 06:09 drink it.
• 06:11 And then we're told the sun and the moon and stars were struck,
• 06:15 and there's a lack of shining, and there's night.
• 06:19 Again, we're looking at upheavals of cosmic proportions.
• 06:24 I don't know what sets these sorts of things in motion.
• 06:28 If we take it literally, certainly something nuclear
• 06:31 could do that.
• 06:33 In any case, if I try and hear this from the perspective of a
• 06:38 first-century reader that doesn't know "nuclear."
• 06:41 There are antecedents to this in ancient literature that give
• 06:45 voice to this kind of cataclysmic, cosmic upheaval,
• 06:50 all of this in advance of the redemption to come.
• 06:55 And I think we do well while considering these things to
• 06:58 remember the exhortation at the front end, the letters to the
• 07:01 congregations, "I am coming soon.
• 07:04 Be patient, look up.
• 07:06 Your redemption draws nigh."
• 07:08 The bad news is that there's trouble in river city.
• 07:11 The good news is the Lord is coming, and he is able to redeem
• 07:14 his own.
• 07:16 In fact, not only that, he's even able to look out for his
• 07:20 own, who find themselves amidst the turbulence of trying times.
• 07:25 We're not done here yet, it's a tough story.
• 07:28 We'll get into it some more as we look at Revelation, and we
• 07:31 wanna pull back the veil on the visions noted therein.
• 07:36 ♪♪♪
• 07:41 Jeffrey: I believe Revelation needs to be read with Exodus in
• 07:45 mind, those plagues that befell the world in advance of the
• 07:50 great redemption.
• 07:52 I think that Revelation should be read with Ezekiel in mind and
• 07:56 Daniel and Zechariah.
• 07:58 There's so much that converges in the literature.
• 08:01 I mention that because here we are in the 9th chapter.
• 08:06 Again, we're amidst plagues.
• 08:09 Here we're told that a pit opens up, and these creatures fly out
• 08:13 that bother.
• 08:15 They molest.
• 08:18 They agitate humankind, these--these bugs,
• 08:23 these--they're scorpions, they're locusts, whatever--
• 08:27 "Buzzz-Zzzz-Zzzz," you know, just, all over.
• 08:30 I don't like that at all, you know, to be imposed upon by
• 08:34 bugs, but here the world is just agitated, and this is one of a
• 08:39 number of plagues akin to what we find in the book of Exodus.
• 08:45 We're told that people are tormented.
• 08:47 And they're just overwhelmed with despair.
• 08:52 They're wanting to die, but they can't.
• 08:55 Really a tough vision.
• 08:57 There's another one to follow, by the way.
• 08:59 This was a vision that came from one angel, but then from another
• 09:02 angel, there's something that is profoundly significant.
• 09:06 In chapter 9, we're told it was another angel in verse 13, who
• 09:11 has a vision and a word to release these hordes.
• 09:16 Here, I'll read the text, and then I want you to see it on
• 09:19 the map.
• 09:21 In verse 14, "The sixth angel is told, 'Release the four angels
• 09:24 who are bound at the great river Euphrates.'"
• 09:27 Here's the river Euphrates, and I should mention that in
• 09:30 antiquity, this area right here was a marker, a boundary marker.
• 09:35 The Roman Empire extended out to here.
• 09:39 The word "barbarian" means "non-Greek" or, in effect,
• 09:42 "non-Roman," and refers to those on the other side, the heathen,
• 09:46 the hordes, the masses.
• 09:48 The first readers of Revelation, the first hearers of it would've
• 09:53 understood that there are these forces bound up at the river
• 09:58 Euphrates, but then what's going to happen is they're gonna be
• 10:02 unleashed, and they are gonna flood into the region--
• 10:06 [blowing] And where are they headed?
• 10:08 They're headed to this area right here, Israel, for a
• 10:11 climactic battle.
• 10:14 We're told here the number of troops in verse 16, 200 million,
• 10:22 and then he says, parenthetically, "I heard
• 10:24 their number."
• 10:26 Actually, the number in Greek was two ten thousands of
• 10:28 ten thousands.
• 10:30 They don't even have a number for "200 million."
• 10:32 No, but it's off the charts, and he's giving this enormous
• 10:35 number, and he's saying, "Look, I heard it.
• 10:37 What do you want me to do?"
• 10:38 There wasn't even a way to write it.
• 10:39 He had to do the best that he could with it.
• 10:41 This force that was marshaled that [blowing] sweeps into
• 10:45 the region, people have wondered what that might be.
• 10:50 You know, this is the natural land bridge from Asia into
• 10:53 this world.
• 10:55 The question is who has a force like this,
• 10:57 or what kind of nations could be amalgamated to fly under one
• 11:02 banner to invest this kind of energy to come into the region?
• 11:06 But they're coming, we're told.
• 11:08 Let's back up for a second in the 9th chapter and give voice
• 11:13 to the fact that this author sees the world at the ragged
• 11:17 edge of time.
• 11:18 The world is being imposed upon by cosmic disorders by
• 11:23 cataclysmic events and now an army.
• 11:28 Jeffrey: Well, they're coming into a particular part of the
• 11:31 world, and as we make our way through Revelation, we'll have
• 11:35 more definition of what that's all about, what these armies are
• 11:40 all about, why they're coming.
• 11:42 There's antecedents to this in the literature.
• 11:45 Ezekiel sees similarly a nation that's brought back at the
• 11:50 ragged edge of time.
• 11:52 A fledgling nation state, Israel comes into its own, and Israel's
• 11:57 coming into its own invokes the ires of the powers that be, and
• 12:02 these energies are generated to come and annihilate this
• 12:07 fledgling state.
• 12:09 We're seeing vestiges.
• 12:11 We're seeing footprints of that here in the book of Revelation.
• 12:15 We're told in verse 18--and I'm still in the 9th chapter--that,
• 12:18 as a result of all described so far, we're told that "A third of
• 12:23 mankind was killed."
• 12:26 The earth is going to be staggering as a result of these
• 12:30 disturbances, but even against the backdrop of these griefs,
• 12:36 still, it seems that people are minded to not turn God-ward.
• 12:42 They're recalcitrant.
• 12:44 You know, some of us, we find ourselves amidst the turbulence
• 12:47 of trying times, and we turn God-ward, and rightly we should.
• 12:51 But the world stiffens its neck, stiffens it resolved.
• 12:56 We're told here that they would still--even with all this,
• 13:00 they're not ready to give it up, and they don't wanna turn away
• 13:04 from the sorceries, their murders, their idolatries, and
• 13:07 what have you.
• 13:09 And it reminds me, having said that, of the Exodus stories I've
• 13:13 already alluded to in more than one occasion in this program,
• 13:16 that is, for all these plagues that are unleashed against
• 13:18 Pharaoh, still, it says that his heart was hardened, so they come
• 13:23 and they come and they come.
• 13:25 It's interesting, at the Passover Seder, Jewish people
• 13:28 look back at the Passover of yesteryear and see that as some
• 13:33 picture of a redemption to come in the future.
• 13:38 Jesus celebrated a Passover Seder with his disciples, and he
• 13:42 said, "Listen, I'm the answer to the human dilemma."
• 13:44 These people don't wanna come to terms with all that yet, but
• 13:48 they will.
• 13:49 We're gonna explore the story some more as we look at
• 13:51 Revelation and look to pull back the veil of the visions in
• 13:56 the book.
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• 16:07 David: Right now, let's go back to Dr. Seif's teaching on
• 16:09 Revelation 10.
• 16:11 ♪♪♪
• 16:16 Jeffrey: What I've been talking about is shocking, disturbing,
• 16:21 stunning: the overwhelming death, carnage, disorientation,
• 16:29 the movements of armies into a region, all these forces, these
• 16:36 frenzied things unleashed.
• 16:39 Some have raised the question what is that army?
• 16:41 You know, some have thought a conventional force coming
• 16:43 from Asia.
• 16:45 Could it be disease in some sense coming to swoop?
• 16:48 I mean, we're looking at Revelation.
• 16:50 We're working with a symbolic language field.
• 16:53 There are various opportunities, different ways to look at it,
• 16:56 but the point is it is disconcerting.
• 17:00 I want to just recall how, on the front end of all of this,
• 17:04 the Lord beckoned, you know, "Be faithful.
• 17:06 Be vigilant.
• 17:08 Keep looking to me.
• 17:09 Don't give up.
• 17:10 Don't turn away.
• 17:12 Don't backslide.
• 17:13 I'm coming soon.
• 17:15 Redemption is drawing nigh."
• 17:16 And I would imagine too, for the Hebrews who found themselves in
• 17:18 the throes of it all with Egypt up in arms, you know, over
• 17:23 plagues and what have you, that "To be patient," Moses saying,
• 17:26 "Be patient, God's gonna do something."
• 17:28 You know what they say: "It gets darkest just before the dawn,"
• 17:32 and it wasn't looking good, but all of a sudden on the
• 17:35 quick redemption.
• 17:37 I mention that because that is somewhat anticipated by the time
• 17:40 we get to the tenth chapter.
• 17:42 These woes, these plagues have rolled out, and the author here
• 17:47 gives voice to the fact that we're fulfilling what was so
• 17:50 spoken of by the prophets in verse 7, that is to say, these
• 17:55 problems that are coming upon the earth were commended by
• 17:58 previous prophets.
• 18:00 Zechariah gives voice to these horsemen that come
• 18:03 with--delivering their payload.
• 18:06 Ezekiel and Daniel, empires clashing, et cetera.
• 18:10 I mean, it's there in the literature.
• 18:13 This author gives voice to the fact that all this is
• 18:15 progressing according to a timetable, that is to say, that
• 18:20 history is not just cascading out of control.
• 18:25 It's good to know that God has his hand on history 'cause, if
• 18:28 he can move history, then he can move us as we let our story
• 18:33 unfold through the passage of time.
• 18:37 Here, this author is told to continue to give voice even
• 18:41 against the turbulence of these troubled times.
• 18:44 He's given a scroll.
• 18:46 He says, "Eat it, granted it's sweet and bitter."
• 18:50 That is, he says, "Take it," in verse 9, "and eat it.
• 18:55 It'll be bitter to your stomach, but sweet as honey in
• 18:59 your mouth."
• 19:00 You know, it's kind of--the old expression "bittersweet."
• 19:04 "And so I took the scroll," in verse 10.
• 19:07 "I ate it.
• 19:08 It was sweet in my mouth, but when I swallowed it, in my
• 19:10 stomach, it became bitter."
• 19:13 It's like that.
• 19:15 You look at God's Word, particularly at the moment here,
• 19:17 and God's Word is beautiful.
• 19:18 "It's more to be desired than a honeycomb," but here, when you
• 19:21 eat it, there's a certain bitterness associated with
• 19:23 the story.
• 19:25 And he's told in verse 11, Chapter 10, verse 11, "You must
• 19:29 prophesy again."
• 19:31 In other words, "Keep talking, keep ministering, keep going."
• 19:35 Even amidst the turbulence of it all, he says, "You must prophesy
• 19:39 again about many peoples, nations, tongues, and kings."
• 19:47 And that's the name of the game at day's end and that every day
• 19:52 for that matter, to keep on going.
• 19:56 You have to prophesy, give out the good news.
• 19:59 Tell the story.
• 20:01 Let people know that the Lamb is on the throne, and they can turn
• 20:04 to him.
• 20:06 In the previous chapter, the problem was, even amidst the
• 20:08 turbulence of trying times, people didn't wanna bend and
• 20:11 turn God-ward.
• 20:12 They were just recalcitrant.
• 20:14 They just insisted on staying to their old ways.
• 20:17 But here the prophetic voice is "No, we must prophesy and speak
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• 20:39 When you do religious television, it goes all over the
• 20:41 world, and you never know who's watching.
• 20:43 Especially, by the way, in trying times, you never know
• 20:46 who's sitting in their living room, who's here now watching
• 20:49 even by divine appointment.
• 20:51 God is looking to get your attention.
• 20:54 Could be that you find yourself amidst various plagues in life
• 20:57 that have come upon you because of decisions that you've made in
• 21:00 your life.
• 21:02 Well, you know, the Gospel message, individuals that
• 21:05 proclaim it have to keep speaking and testifying to let
• 21:08 the world know, you and everyone else, that there's good news
• 21:12 coming to you from ancient Jews.
• 21:14 The good news in Scripture is that even amidst the turbulence
• 21:18 of trying times, there is a Lamb of God who died for your sins.
• 21:24 Lamb of God harks to the Passover story.
• 21:26 They were in slavery, but that spotless lamb was killed.
• 21:30 The blood was applied, and they were set free from Egypt.
• 21:32 You could be in slavery and sin and bondage in some
• 21:35 way yourself.
• 21:36 That's the bad news.
• 21:38 The good news is that God has provided a Lamb.
• 21:40 Revelation speaks to the Lamb and the blood of the Lamb and
• 21:43 saying how worthy that Lamb is, and this is just symbolic
• 21:46 language that speaks to, for, and about Jesus, whom Hebrews
• 21:52 call Yeshua.
• 21:55 I don't care whether you say Yeshua, I don't care whether you
• 21:57 say Jesus, I don't care whether you say Jesus.
• 22:00 I just care that you call upon him because the Scripture says
• 22:03 that "Everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord will
• 22:06 be saved."
• 22:08 I don't know what your circumstance in life is, and I
• 22:10 don't really even care.
• 22:12 I just know, according to this book, there's answers, and those
• 22:15 answers come your way when you reach out to God, up to him and
• 22:18 into the future.
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• 24:36 Our program today is all about wickedness, destruction--
• 24:42 Kirsten: Plagues.
• 24:44 David: Yeah, is God still in control through all of this?
• 24:46 Jeffrey: Well, yes, but he's letting the--he's letting the
• 24:49 lion loose, if you will, on a world, and it's a tough one.
• 24:53 Kirsten: I have a question if you don't mind.
• 24:56 Just from perspective and reading through this, so this is
• 25:00 John's vision, and he's talking about plagues killing off the
• 25:05 third of the world?
• 25:07 Jeffrey: Yeah, among other things, yeah.
• 25:09 Kirsten: Well, here's my question: So is it in the
• 25:12 future, or do you think he saw that, like, the black plague,
• 25:15 bubonic plague?
• 25:16 Did it kill a third of the earth?
• 25:18 Could it be different times throughout history that
• 25:21 he's seeing?
• 25:23 Jeffrey: Well, yes, and there's the famous plagues that we know
• 25:26 of 'cause of European history and--I mean, who even knew about
• 25:29 the Spanish flu plague that decimated fifty to a hundred
• 25:32 in 1917?
• 25:34 I didn't know about that until it was brought to my attention
• 25:36 in conjunction with this.
• 25:38 But in the world here, yes, plagues hit the Roman Empire and
• 25:42 decimated large segments of it.
• 25:45 In fact, not long after Revelation is written, plague
• 25:49 came back from the east, brought back by Roman soldiers.
• 25:52 They were dumping bodies in the streets of Rome, and everyone
• 25:55 who was anyone got out of Dodge and went to their country homes
• 25:58 to get away from the big city.
• 26:00 It's been around.
• 26:02 Kirsten: So in your teaching, do you believe that that's
• 26:04 foreseeing it yet into the future of more plaques?
• 26:08 Jeffrey: I think that the human condition being what it is, I
• 26:10 don't know it's gonna go away anytime soon.
• 26:13 If I take the literature literally, the answer is yes,
• 26:16 but if I don't take it literally, I'm still minded to
• 26:18 take it seriously, and this author gives voice to the fact
• 26:22 that that's just one of a number of plagues as if COVID-19 isn't
• 26:26 enough and unemployment.
• 26:28 I mean, this is just laying it on one after the other after
• 26:32 the other.
• 26:34 And the reader of this, I think, is left understanding that the
• 26:38 world is just teetering here.
• 26:41 It's tottering.
• 26:43 We're really right at the edge, at the brink.
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• 26:47 David: I was gonna say teeter-totter but kind of a
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