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• 00:03 David Hart: Welcome to "Our Jewish Roots" with
• 00:06 insightful Bible teaching by Dr. Jeffrey Seif.
• 00:10 ♪♪♪
• 00:27 David: We are so glad you've joined us today.
• 00:29 I am David Hart.
• 00:30 Kirsten Hart: I'm Kirsten Hart.
• 00:32 Jeffrey Seif: I am Jeffrey Seif and we are gonna take a
• 00:35 deeper look at the book today.
• 00:36 How about that?
• 00:37 David: That's right.
• 00:39 The theme, "Unveiling the Visions."
• 00:40 Can you explain that a little bit?
• 00:42 Jeffrey: Yeah, Revelation in the Greek harks to this
• 00:44 unveiling, this manifesting, this taking a peek behind the
• 00:48 curtain of history, to go on the quest to discover the ultimate
• 00:53 triumph of God in history.
• 00:55 That's what the book's about.
• 00:56 Kirsten: And we've always--I'm sorry, been
• 00:58 fascinated with this book, right?
• 01:00 It's because it's so different, but yet a good, bad, high, low.
• 01:04 David: Good and bad, right?
• 01:06 Hey, right now, let's go to chapter 6 of Revelation for
• 01:08 Dr. Seif's teaching.
• 01:11 ♪♪♪
• 01:15 Jeffrey: Okay, I gotta ask you in the front end
• 01:17 to be nice to me.
• 01:19 Don't shoot the messenger.
• 01:22 I say that 'cause this is a tough one.
• 01:24 Listen, the previous program was great.
• 01:26 Lot of glory, worshiping the Lord, feeling good, looking
• 01:29 good, sounding good, acting good.
• 01:32 That was then, this is now.
• 01:33 Here in chapter 6 we go from the glory to the gory.
• 01:39 John isn't in the best of places himself.
• 01:41 Our author is banished to an island out here in
• 01:44 the Aegean Sea called Patmos.
• 01:46 And from this island now, he sees things to come.
• 01:49 He gives voice to these dispatches going global in his
• 01:53 day throughout the empire.
• 01:56 He sees in chapter 6 visions, the first of which is a horse,
• 02:01 and the rider has a crown given to him.
• 02:04 And he goes forth in verse 2 as a conqueror so he might conquer.
• 02:10 He sees another horse, in verse 4, "fiery red.
• 02:14 The one riding on it was permitted to take peace
• 02:17 from the earth, so that people would slaughter one another.
• 02:22 And he was given a sword."
• 02:27 Wow, this is tough stuff, isn't it?
• 02:29 That's why I said, "Don't shoot the messenger."
• 02:33 This author gives voice to a bad moon rising and we're not done.
• 02:41 He sees a black horse noted in verse 5 and in conjunction with
• 02:46 that the word goes out, saying, "A quart of wheat for a
• 02:51 denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius."
• 02:54 There's famine, you know, and when there's famine, the prices
• 02:59 go up high for meager food staples.
• 03:03 There's war and its concomitants.
• 03:07 There's economic upheaval.
• 03:09 Indeed, it's a tough day and we're not even done yet.
• 03:13 In verse 8 he sees another horse, this one pale green.
• 03:17 "The name of the one riding on it was Death, and Sheol was
• 03:21 following with him."
• 03:23 The rider was death, first century apocalyptic language.
• 03:29 There's a vision here of difficult circumstance being
• 03:34 unleashed upon the earth.
• 03:35 We're told relative to the rider Death, as we read on, "Authority
• 03:40 was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill by sword
• 03:46 and by famine and by plague and by the wild beasts
• 03:52 of the earth."
• 03:55 I believe this is horrifying.
• 03:57 And that's not all.
• 04:00 We're told as we read on that there are the saints.
• 04:05 He says, "I saw under the altar the souls of those slaughtered
• 04:09 for the sake of the Word of God and for the witness they had."
• 04:15 Individuals are paying a price for faith, and here, the author
• 04:21 sees that.
• 04:23 He sees as well that they're going to be avenged.
• 04:27 In verse 11, "A white robe was given to each of them, and they
• 04:30 were told to rest a little while longer, until the number of
• 04:35 their fellow servants was complete--their brothers and
• 04:39 sisters who were to be killed as they had been."
• 04:43 We're reasonably comfortable in North America but believers the
• 04:50 world over in other countries are getting slaughtered in
• 04:54 record numbers.
• 04:58 This doesn't get better.
• 05:02 Previously, in Revelation, the devil is noted.
• 05:07 Wickedness is noted, it's going to raise its hoary head, and
• 05:11 this is going to unfold the more so in programs to come where he
• 05:17 realizes his time is short and he unleashes his fury.
• 05:23 This seems to be an issue as we approach the ragged edge of
• 05:27 time, according to this author.
• 05:30 These portents of bad things to come is followed by
• 05:35 eschatological language, apocalyptic language,
• 05:39 poetic language.
• 05:40 He speaks here of "the sun being black as sackcloth."
• 05:44 Now, that's a figure of speech.
• 05:46 The sun doesn't go black.
• 05:47 Life evaporates afterward, were that the case.
• 05:51 In verse 13: "Stars of heaven fall to the earth."
• 05:54 That doesn't happen.
• 05:55 You get one meteorite that's big enough to hit the earth and it
• 05:58 causes a cataclysm, never mind all the stars and so forth.
• 06:02 But this author is painting of a picture of a world that's turned
• 06:07 upside down.
• 06:09 It wasn't unlike the experience of the first recipients.
• 06:13 I mention this.
• 06:15 If we're 95 AD, people are experiencing persecution for the
• 06:19 faith out there in the Greco-Roman world.
• 06:23 In verse 15, we're told: "The kings of the earth and the great
• 06:26 men and military commanders and rich and the mighty and
• 06:29 everyone--slave and free--hide themselves."
• 06:31 It's a world upside down.
• 06:35 And that's the bad news.
• 06:38 Well, chapter 6 is a tough one.
• 06:41 I said, "Don't shoot the messenger," and the whole
• 06:42 program isn't on chapter 6.
• 06:45 We're gonna get to a better segment and things to come.
• 06:47 We see in chapter 7 that there's the faithful people, even
• 06:51 against the backdrop of all this misery and darkness.
• 06:53 So don't go away.
• 06:55 I'll be with you for that in a moment.
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• 07:41 Jeffrey: That last segment was a tough one.
• 07:44 Glad that's behind me.
• 07:46 Chapter 7's a much better read.
• 07:48 Chapter 8 is bad, so don't get too comfortable here.
• 07:51 In any case, we go from the glory to the gory.
• 07:57 We go now from the misery to the ministry.
• 07:59 It kind of goes up and down, up and down.
• 08:02 In chapter 7, the author sees the faithful, not just the
• 08:09 faithless world which he talked about previously and he notes in
• 08:14 verses 4 through 8 there are Hebrews from the various Hebrew
• 08:20 tribes: "144,000," we're told, "from every tribe of
• 08:24 Bnei-Yisrael," from the children of Israel.
• 08:28 So our author is here in the Aegean Sea.
• 08:33 He sees that in heaven he envisions a scourge on the earth
• 08:38 but he sees 12,000 from each tribe that are faithful
• 08:43 to the Lord.
• 08:45 Many people think, you know, "Oh, the Jews, you know,
• 08:47 rejected Jesus.
• 08:48 Jesus rejected the Jews. That's the end of that."
• 08:51 No, there is this resurgence, this revival.
• 08:54 It certainly was the case in the first century and it'll be the
• 08:58 case in the last century as well.
• 09:00 Well, he sees Jewish believers and you see
• 09:04 Jewish believers today.
• 09:06 There's this emergence in modernity,
• 09:09 I'm pleased to report.
• 09:10 But not only that, in verse 9 he goes on to say, "I looked, and
• 09:13 behold, a vast multitude no one could count--from every nation
• 09:19 and all tribes and peoples and tongues."
• 09:23 It's not just Jews.
• 09:25 These are people "standing before the throne
• 09:28 and before the Lamb."
• 09:30 So this author in century 1, writing from here, banished as
• 09:35 he was, all the earlier apostles were killed.
• 09:39 He's banished.
• 09:41 And he has a vision of a world that goes upside down.
• 09:43 He sees Jews that walk with the Lord and died with the Lord.
• 09:48 He sees non-Jews.
• 09:51 For him, the church is made up of one new man, Jews and
• 09:56 non-Jews alike.
• 09:58 We're seeing that today, by the way, similarly.
• 10:00 We're seeing Jewish witnesses to Yeshua, non-Jewish witnesses.
• 10:04 It really is fascinating.
• 10:06 It was like that in century 1; it's like that today.
• 10:09 And here, it's prophesied in the Good Book.
• 10:12 And these together we're told "are standing before the Lamb,"
• 10:16 you know, language for Yeshua, the crucified one.
• 10:19 And they're singing in verse 10, "Salvation belongs to our God,
• 10:24 who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!"
• 10:28 It's not just my God, it's not the Jewish God.
• 10:30 The God of all.
• 10:32 I love it.
• 10:33 And I'm game for the repose here, that is to say, in the
• 10:39 previous segment there's a rocky road and people
• 10:43 get hurt temporarily.
• 10:45 Those who give up the ghost, who die, however, are envisioned
• 10:49 here before the Lord, worshiping him.
• 10:52 We're told in verse 14: "These are the ones coming out of the
• 10:56 great tribulation.
• 10:58 And they wash their robes in the blood of the Lamb."
• 11:01 We're told of these here in a world that we noted previously
• 11:06 in the program is racked by unrest, by global upheavals, and
• 11:14 the like.
• 11:16 We're told here in verse 16 that these "shall never again go
• 11:20 hungry, nor thirst anymore; the sun shall not beat down on them,
• 11:26 nor any scorching heat.
• 11:28 For the Lamb in the midst of the throne shall shepherd them and
• 11:32 guide them to springs of living water, and God shall wipe away
• 11:37 every tear from their eyes."
• 11:42 That's a good word.
• 11:45 That's a word that's just not prophetic in nature.
• 11:48 It is to say, it doesn't just belong to those at the end of
• 11:52 days on the other side of the grave.
• 11:55 That's a good word for moderns today.
• 11:59 And all that said, let me speak to you.
• 12:04 You might find yourself coming out of a great tribulation.
• 12:08 It happens.
• 12:10 Life happens.
• 12:13 We've experienced that, that life comes replete with
• 12:15 challenges, with uncertainties, but one thing that's certain is
• 12:22 there is a God who's the alpha and the omega,
• 12:27 the beginning of the end.
• 12:29 And he positions himself here as one to greet us at the other end
• 12:35 of life's experience when life runs its course.
• 12:38 But not only that, that he serves as a shepherd to lead us,
• 12:43 even as we finish running our course.
• 12:46 And I mention that because the good news is that we don't just
• 12:52 go into God's presence at the end of the days.
• 12:56 We can walk with him now.
• 12:59 And with that said, looking here at Revelation against the
• 13:03 backdrop of those numbered among the faithful, let me encourage
• 13:06 you to be among the faithful.
• 13:09 Make an executive decision to serve the Lord, to walk with
• 13:13 him, to walk by faith not by fear and not by feelings, but to
• 13:17 walk with him in all your ways, all your days.
• 13:20 And at the end of days, you will hear the words, "Well done,
• 13:23 good and faithful servant."
• 13:26 Speaking of end of days, I'm out of time here on this
• 13:28 one right now.
• 13:30 And thank you for going with me on the journey as we look at
• 13:32 Revelation, as we pull back the veil on these various visions.
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• 14:26 Kirsten: In today's teaching, Dr. Seif, through the book of
• 14:28 Revelation, has been teaching us about this wonderful revival
• 14:32 among the Jewish people.
• 14:34 They're putting their faith in Yeshua HaMashiach.
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• 15:02 David: Right now, let's go back to Dr. Seif's teaching
• 15:04 on Revelation.
• 15:06 ♪♪♪
• 15:10 Jeffrey: What I'd like to do here is alight upon a pattern
• 15:14 that we're gonna see throughout the book of Revelation.
• 15:17 And that is bad news, good news, bad news, good news.
• 15:21 To be sure, when we look at the Revelation world, it is
• 15:25 descending into an abyss.
• 15:28 After which then, the light is going to come and shine and
• 15:33 there's going to be happiness, felicity, peace,
• 15:36 deliverance, et cetera.
• 15:38 But we're kind of spiraling downward.
• 15:40 But even in the downward spiral, there's something here that's
• 15:44 it's less prophetic to my way of thinking than it is pastoral.
• 15:51 And by that, I mean there's a kind word dropped in and, having
• 15:56 looked at chapter 6 and 7, what I wanna do is focus on the kind
• 16:04 word that's brought in because you can find yourself and I can
• 16:09 find myself in our own tribulations.
• 16:12 People say, "Is this the end of time?"
• 16:15 It's a reasonable question, but the truth is that irrespective
• 16:20 of the edge of time, and when the great Tribulation is, the
• 16:27 truth of the matter is people find themselves amidst
• 16:30 tribulations as we all make our way through the passage of time.
• 16:35 And I think when we're looking at the literature here, it's
• 16:38 understood that this is gonna be an encouraging word for people
• 16:42 in the 1st century, not just the 21st century, those that are the
• 16:46 initial readers of it: "Then he said, 'These are the ones coming
• 16:51 out of the great tribulation.
• 16:53 They have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of
• 16:58 the Lamb.
• 17:00 And for this reason, they're before the throne of God, and
• 17:02 they serve him day and night.'"
• 17:06 There is this telescoping into the future.
• 17:12 There's giving voice to the fact that there's tumult on earth but
• 17:16 individuals are beckoned to look up and have a look
• 17:21 at what's coming.
• 17:23 And this, to my way of thinking, friends, is the genius
• 17:28 in the book of Revelation.
• 17:31 It doesn't simply reduce to prophecy charts though
• 17:35 who can resist?
• 17:37 Because we all wanna work the question, "Where are we
• 17:40 now in time?"
• 17:42 I have a heightened awareness of that personally.
• 17:45 Principally, not because of what I read in Revelation but because
• 17:52 of what I see in the world today with the emergence of Israel
• 17:56 as a nation state.
• 17:57 It has prophetic importance in the book of Revelation
• 18:01 and elsewhere in biblical literature.
• 18:03 I see that.
• 18:05 I see a revival amongst Jewish people.
• 18:07 That has prophetic implications.
• 18:10 I see mechanisms in play today that weren't in play yesterday
• 18:14 that the gospel can go out global, even amidst the
• 18:17 turbulence of trying times, through the miracle
• 18:21 that is television.
• 18:23 I think we're living in a day today that is in ways
• 18:28 unlike century 1.
• 18:30 My point here is irrespective of where the reader is when they
• 18:36 encounter the book of Revelation, I want you to seize
• 18:40 hold of the pastoral moments that are in Revelation that
• 18:45 beckon the reader to, irrespective of their own
• 18:50 circumstance, their own tribulation, to be minded to
• 18:55 look forward over the horizon and into the future and faith
• 19:00 beckons us to do that.
• 19:02 And the book of Revelation principally is about the triumph
• 19:06 of God in human history.
• 19:09 People wanna know how it's gonna play out on the globe.
• 19:12 When's God gonna get his world back?
• 19:14 You know, he created it, it all went south in Eden and the
• 19:17 question is when's it all restored?
• 19:19 It's a reasonable question.
• 19:21 But I want you to know as I put a wrap on this program, that God
• 19:24 is in the restoration business now, one person at a time.
• 19:28 Oh, to be sure, we carry on and look how history plays out in
• 19:31 Revelation but the way your story plays out, I want you to
• 19:35 know that you're a winner.
• 19:36 You're destined to be one, as you and I and we have
• 19:40 experienced a God who will wipe away tears from our eyes.
• 19:43 So much in Revelation.
• 19:46 We're gonna look at it and push back the veil and
• 19:48 understand the visions.
• 19:51 More to come.
• 19:52 ♪ Come and talk with me in the cool of the day. ♪
• 19:58 ♪ Take a walk in the garden. ♪
• 20:01 ♪ Let me show you the way. ♪
• 20:06 ♪ When you seek me you will find me. ♪
• 20:12 ♪ I'll be there by your side. ♪
• 20:19 ♪ Simply ask and be given. ♪
• 20:22 ♪ In your heart I'll abide. ♪
• 20:28 ♪ Be still and know the Lord your God is on his throne, ♪
• 20:36 ♪ is in control. ♪
• 20:41 ♪ Hold fast this truth and don't let go. ♪
• 20:47 ♪ You are my child, you're not alone. ♪
• 20:55 ♪ Come and dine with me in the evening hour. ♪
• 21:01 ♪ Share a feast of the King in his glory and power. ♪
• 21:08 ♪ When you drink my cup you will thirst no more. ♪
• 21:22 ♪ You will be fulfilled with the love of your Lord. ♪
• 21:31 ♪ Here O Israel what the Lord desires ♪
• 21:37 ♪ is a heart for him, ♪
• 21:40 ♪ not what law requires. ♪
• 21:46 ♪ I need your lambs and offerings-- ♪
• 21:58 ♪ No I-- ♪
• 22:02 ♪ Who will walk with me. ♪
• 22:11 ♪ Be still and know the Lord your God ♪
• 22:18 ♪ is on his throne, is in control. ♪
• 22:25 ♪ Hold fast this truth and don't let go. ♪
• 22:32 ♪ You are my child, you're not alone. ♪♪
• 22:43 David: And that was a song from our founder, Zola Levitt.
• 22:45 Kirsten: Okay, Jeff, I've gotta jump in a little bit.
• 22:50 You mentioned something in your teaching and it's a number.
• 22:53 And it's that 144,000 number.
• 22:57 I've heard so many groups say, "That's us, that's us."
• 23:01 Who is it? Who is the 144,000?
• 23:02 Jeffrey: Well, according to literature, they're from the
• 23:04 tribe of Israel, Hebrew peoples.
• 23:07 And it's interesting that the Jewish people have
• 23:09 been written out of the story.
• 23:11 No, it's the Jehovah's Witnesses, it's this, it's that.
• 23:13 This story ends, I don't wanna get to the end of the book yet,
• 23:17 with Yeshua saying, "I am of the root of David."
• 23:20 And here we're seeing individuals of Jewish extract
• 23:25 that are participating in the Jesus drama.
• 23:28 And not only that, here in chapter 7 and I love it,
• 23:31 personally, and I think our viewers, I think you
• 23:34 love it as well.
• 23:35 That's why you watch a program that's all about looking at the
• 23:37 good news through the eyes of the Jews.
• 23:39 I think that you love it but, in conjunction with this, tell me
• 23:43 about what do you think here, we're told that after
• 23:46 identifying these individuals of Jewish extract who are
• 23:49 believers, the author says, "I looked, and behold,
• 23:52 a vast multitude no one could count--from every nation and all
• 23:57 tribes and peoples and tongues."
• 24:00 That's yous, yous. I think that's a cool story.
• 24:02 Kirsten: That's our world.
• 24:04 David: It is.
• 24:05 Kirsten: Worship.
• 24:07 You've been a worship leader for years.
• 24:08 David: The word that stuck out in my mind is drama.
• 24:10 Revelation is full of lots of drama, ups and downs.
• 24:13 Jeffrey: Really, agonies and ecstasies.
• 24:16 Kirsten: Well, we like the ecstasy.
• 24:18 We love that worship.
• 24:19 Jeffrey: This is an ecstatic vision of things to come and, by
• 24:21 the way, we're not finished with the drama and the horror.
• 24:24 I mean, chapter 7 is a bright light that's shining
• 24:28 in a darkened world.
• 24:30 Chapter 6 is horrific and it's gonna get bad still.
• 24:33 But, you know, it's like that when we look at life, when we
• 24:36 look at the biblical text.
• 24:37 We need to see hope in life.
• 24:39 You may well need to see it as well.
• 24:41 I don't know what situation you might find yourself in but it's
• 24:45 good to be reminded that there is a triumph, there is a God.
• 24:49 These people are singing in verse 10 of chapter 7:
• 24:52 "Salvation belongs to our God."
• 24:55 And salvation isn't just salvation of our soul, though by
• 24:59 all means attend to that business.
• 25:01 But it's from the Greek souzo and it carries with it to be
• 25:06 healed, to be made whole, to be put back together again.
• 25:09 There's a new life on the other side of the sinner's prayer.
• 25:12 Irrespective of sin and circumstances, people
• 25:15 can find it.
• 25:16 They find it here in a tough stretch of highway
• 25:18 in the book of Revelation.
• 25:20 Kirsten: But that's why I'm thankful for in this book is you
• 25:23 have some of the lowest lows.
• 25:24 I mean, unleashing these demons and these beasts, and then we'll
• 25:28 have a glimpse of heaven and the worship service.
• 25:31 And then horrific famine, disaster, and then but here's
• 25:34 what it's gonna be like.
• 25:36 So--and I appreciate that you've also focused on the good and the
• 25:40 positive also.
• 25:42 Jeffrey: I think people need hope, and hope is in high demand
• 25:46 and short supply in this world.
• 25:47 David: It may be a little difficult for people if they're
• 25:50 tuning in mid series, they need to see exactly what's going on
• 25:54 through Revelation.
• 25:55 Jeffrey: I think so. It's like a movie, you know?
• 25:57 You know, it's a 90-minute movie, you can't just jump into
• 25:59 it ten minutes in the middle.
• 26:01 You need to know what comes before it and what comes
• 26:03 after it.
• 26:04 There could very well be a good close and there certainly
• 26:06 is here.
• 26:07 And there can be a certain good conclusion to your life as well
• 26:10 out there.
• 26:12 Because he lives, we can face tomorrow.
• 26:13 And that is the message of the book at the end of the day.
• 26:17 You know, and relative to the bad, I think that people living
• 26:21 wrong need to know there are judgments associated with that.
• 26:23 We don't get a free pass in life.
• 26:25 And there's punishment meted out on earth but people are living
• 26:29 all wrong, and that there's consequences for decisions that
• 26:35 we make and actions that we take.
• 26:37 That's a message that needs to be told as well.
• 26:39 It's not a good listen, it's not good to hear it, but we need to
• 26:42 bring the truth near to us.
• 26:44 David: Probably not easy to teach that also.
• 26:45 You'd rather teach the good news but there's stuff in there that
• 26:49 we need to hear.
• 26:50 Jeffrey: Yeah, you know, I think that church is a little
• 26:51 too flowery.
• 26:53 I think it was Billy Graham who said if there was more preaching
• 26:55 of hell from the pulpit, there'd be less hell in the pew.
• 26:57 Kirsten: And on that, we end our program today, ha, ha.
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