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Caption transcript for Voices From Israel: “A Place in History” (4/10)

• 00:06 THIS PLACE IS PART OF YOUR HERITAGE.
• 00:09 THIS PLACE IS PART OF YOUR DREAM.
• 00:11 PEOPLE OF THE BIBLE ARE IN CHARGE OF THE LAND OF THE BIBLE.
• 00:13 I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY TIMES IN HISTORY
• 00:15 WHEN CHRISTIANS HAVE LOOKED THE OTHER WAY WHEN JEWISH PEOPLE WERE BEING ATTACKED.
• 00:19 WE WILL ULTIMATELY SEE THE WORLD CHANGE.
• 00:22 GOD'S PURPOSES FOR ISRAEL JUST MARCH ON, DON'T THEY?
• 00:31 SHALOM, HELLO AGAIN.
• 00:33 WE'RE BACK TO OUR "VOICES FROM ISRAEL SERIES" ON THIS PROGRAM.
• 00:37 WE'VE INTERRUPTED THIS SERIES.
• 00:39 THE NEWS IS COMING SO THICK AND FAST
• 00:42 AND WE ARE ALMOST ALONE ON OUR SIDE OF IT, AS CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS,
• 00:46 AS SUPPORTERS OF THE HOLY LAND AND AS BELIEVERS IN BIBLE PROPHECY AND SO ON.
• 00:52 WE'RE VERY BUSY WITH THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT COME UP,
• 00:55 SO FROM TIME TO TIME, WE NEED TO INTERRUPT THE SERIES.
• 00:58 BUT, "VOICES FROM ISRAEL" WAS A SERIES FOLLOWING A TYPICAL TOUR OF OURS
• 01:03 AND SITES WE VISIT
• 01:05 AND WE HAVE WITH US TONY DERRICK WHO IS OUR TRAVEL MANAGER.
• 01:09 GOOD TO BE BACK WITH YOU, TONY.
• 01:11 IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK, ZOLA.
• 01:12 ON TODAY'S PROGRAM WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT A TOUR AND WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GO?
• 01:16 WE ARE GOING TO ENTER THE OLD CITY ON THIS TOUR,
• 01:19 THROUGH THE ZION GATE.
• 01:21 WE WILL TRAVEL THE STREETS OF THE CITY INTO THE CARDO.
• 01:24 THE ROMAN STREET THAT WAS THERE.
• 01:27 EXACTLY, ONE OF THE FAVORITE PLACES OF OUR TOURS
• 01:29 BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF SHOPS ARE,
• 01:31 WHERE PEOPLE CAN TAKE A FEW MOMENTS OF SUPER SHOPPING, TO DO A LITTLE SHOPPING.
• 01:35 WE WILL VISIT DAVID'S TOMB,
• 01:38 THAT REGAL PLACE THAT'S SET ASIDE AS DAVID'S TOMB
• 01:40 AND THEN MORE FASCINATING, I THINK, IS THE UPPER ROOM
• 01:43 WHERE WE ASSEMBLE TOGETHER AS YOU KNOW
• 01:46 AND THE SOUND REVERBERATES THROUGH THE ROOM
• 01:49 AS WE SING, USUALLY, "AMAZING GRACE".
• 01:51 OH YES, THAT'S A THRILL.
• 01:53 OUR PEOPLE REACT VERY WELL IN THE UPPER ROOM.
• 01:56 OKAY, LET'S GO THEN.
• 02:06 WE BEGIN OUR DAY OF TOURING AT ZION GATE IN JERUSALEM.
• 02:08 OUR ISRAELI TOUR GUIDE, ZVI RAVI EXPLAINS THE HISTORY OF MT. ZION
• 02:13 AND SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT HAPPENED AROUND THIS GATE.
• 02:16 WE WALK INTO THE OLD CITY TO DISCOVER THE BEAUTY OF NARROW PASSAGEWAYS
• 02:20 SNAKING THEIR WAY THROUGH THE ANCIENT TOWNS.
• 02:23 OUR FIRST STOP IS THE CARDO WHERE WE SEE ROMAN COLUMNS, CRUSADER WALLS
• 02:28 AND BYZANTINE MOSAICS, LIKE THIS ONE DEPICTING THE CITY AS IT WAS IN THE 5TH CENTURY.
• 02:34 A LIFE SIZE RECREATION OF THE TEMPLE MENORAH IS HERE,
• 02:38 BUT, THERE'S MUCH MORE HISTORY LYING JUST BENEATH THE SURFACE.
• 02:43 THIS WALL IS FROM KING HEZEKIAH, 721 BC.
• 02:49 JERUSALEM HAS BEEN BUILT OVER AND OVER AGAIN UPON ITSELF FOR MILLENNIA.
• 02:53 HERE ARCHAEOLOGISTS HAVE DUG DOWN BELOW STREET LEVEL TO FIND HISTORY WAITING.
• 02:58 WE CONTINUE THROUGH THE JEWISH QUARTER
• 03:01 WHERE WE SEE SMALL CHILDREN FREE TO WALK AROUND IN PEACE AND SAFETY.
• 03:04 AS WE STEP INTO A DOORWAY NEARBY, ZVI INTRODUCES US TO THE SITE OF DAVID'S TOMB.
• 03:11 NOW A SYNAGOGUE, THIS PLACE IS A REMINDER OF THE ANCIENT JEWISH ATTACHMENT
• 03:16 TO THIS CITY WHERE DAVID RULED AS KING.
• 03:18 AS WE WALK ON, ZVI CALLS OUR ATTENTION TO VARIOUS POINTS OF INTEREST.
• 03:23 THIS COMPLEX YOU SEE HERE WAS RESTORED BY THE CRUSADERS IN THE 12TH CENTURY.
• 03:30 AS WE HEAR THE SOUNDS OF CHURCH BELLS RINGING,
• 03:33 WE GO UP THE STAIRS LEADING TO THE UPPER ROOM WHERE INSIDE, ZOLA TEACHES US FROM SCRIPTURES.
• 03:40 THIS IS THE UPPER ROOM.
• 03:43 THIS IS THE PLACE WHERE FORMER CHRISTIANS THOUGHT THE LOCATION WAS AUTHENTIC
• 03:49 BECAUSE THESE ARCHES WERE PUT HERE BY THE CRUSADERS.
• 03:52 YOU CAN SEE THOSE ARE EUROPEAN ARCHES.
• 03:55 MUSLIMS PUT A PRAYER NICHE IN HERE FACING MECCA.
• 03:58 THEY ARE SOMETIME WORSHIPERS OF JESUS WHO THEY REGARD AS A PROPHET.
• 04:04 AND THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF IT IS,
• 04:07 IT'S WHERE CHRISTIANS REMEMBERED THAT THIS WONDERFUL BIBLE LESSON TOOK PLACE.
• 04:15 IN OTHER WORDS, FROM THE FIRST GENERATION TO THE SECOND TO THE THIRD
• 04:19 UNTIL THCRUSADERS CAME AND LATER CHRISTIANS AND SO ON.
• 04:22 IT GIVES THE PLACE A CERTAIN AUTHENTICITY.
• 04:24 WE CAN'T BE EXACT, BUT IT'S PROBABLY THE RIGHT PLACE.
• 04:29 IT'S THE RIGHT KIND OF HOUSE, IT'S GOT THE VERY GENEROUS UPPER ROOM.
• 04:34 IT'S GOT 1ST CENTURY STONES IN THE FOUNDATION OF THE HOUSE, WHICH IS IMPORTANT.
• 04:42 A CATHOLIC PRIEST TOLD ME ONCE, WHO WAS AN ARCHAEOLOGIST,
• 04:46 WHEN WE WERE HERE, THAT THOSE STONES, SOME OF THEM,
• 04:49 SMALLER ONES HAD BEEN DRAGGED ALL THE WAY HERE
• 04:53 AND PLACED AGAINST THE FOUNDATION FROM THE TEMPLE MOUNT AFTER THE TEMPLE WAS DESTROYED.
• 05:00 WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, JEWISH WORSHIPERS WHO BELIEVED IN JESUS,
• 05:06 THOUGHT THAT PART OF THE TEMPLE OUGHT TO COME HERE TO THIS BUILDING
• 05:09 AND WENT DOWN THERE AND GOT STONES AND PACKED THEM AGAINST THE FOUNDATION OF THE PLACE
• 05:14 AND THOSE STONES WERE FOUND A MILE FROM WHERE THEY STARTED.
• 05:18 THAT'S A HEAVY JOB, OF COURSE.
• 05:20 AND THE DISCIPLES MUST HAVE WALKED FROM THIS ROOM,
• 05:24 DOWN THE HILL TO THE SOUTHERN GATE OF THE TEMPLE AT THE TIME OF PENTECOST.
• 05:30 THEY GATHERED IN THIS ROOM.
• 05:31 IT SAYS, A MIGHTY WIND FILLED THE HOUSE WHERE THEY WERE SITTING.
• 05:37 THIS PROBABLY IS THE HOUSE.
• 05:41 AND IN THIS ROOM, JESUS TAUGHT SOME THINGS SO GERMANE TO THE FAITH.
• 05:47 LET NOT YOUR HEART BE TROUBLED, YOU BELIEVE IN GOD, BELIEVE ALSO IN ME.
• 05:54 REMEMBER THEY ARE ALREADY JEWS BELIEVING IN GOD.
• 05:58 THIS PASSAGE INDICATES THAT YOU NEED MORE THAN THE LAW TO BE SAVED.
• 06:03 YOU NEED ALSO TO BELIEVE IN THE MESSIAH.
• 06:14 WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE GARDEN TOMB YESTERDAY.
• 06:16 THESE MANY MANSIONS, BRIDAL CHAMBERS, WE'RE MANY BRIDES IN THE CHURCH.
• 06:21 BUT, THERE'S A MANSION FOR EACH OF US IN HEAVEN AND HE'S GONE TO PREPARE THOSE PLACES.
• 06:28 AND HE GOES OUT OF HIS WAY TO SAY.
• 06:29 IF IT WERE NOT SO, I WOULD HAVE TOLD YOU
• 06:33 HE WOULDN'T ASK US TO WAIT A LIFETIME AND CARRY THIS CROSS
• 06:36 IF HE WEREN'T REALLY COMING BACK FOR US.
• 06:39 AND I OFTEN THINK THERE ARE CHURCHES THAT TEACH HE'S NOT COMING BACK FOR THEM,
• 06:44 AND I THINK THEY'RE RIGHT.
• 06:48 THIS IS SO GERMANE TO CHRISTIANITY.
• 06:51 WHAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CHRISTIANITY AND AN EARTHLY RELIGION?
• 06:55 AS PASTOR VAN DER HOEVEN OF THE FORMER CHRISTIAN EMBASSY CAME TO OUR GROUP ONE TIME AND SAID,
• 07:02 IF I GO TO THE TOMB OF MOHAMMED, IT'S SEALED. HE'S IN THERE.
• 07:08 IF I GO TO THE TOMB OF BUDDHA, IT'S SEALED. HE'S IN HIS TOMB.
• 07:15 IF I CRY TO THOSE PERSONALITIES, HELP ME.
• 07:19 THEY WOULD ANSWER, HELP YOU. I COULDN'T HELP MYSELF.
• 07:25 BUT WE WENT TO THE TOMB OF JESUS YESTERDAY.
• 07:29 WAS THERE A BODY? YOU EXAMINED THE GRAVE.
• 07:32 IT'S EMPTY.
• 07:34 HE'S GONE, GONE TO PREPARE A PLACE FOR US.
• 07:36 IT'S BEAUTIFUL THAT WE HAVE AN EMPTY TOMB.
• 07:40 WE DON'T WORSHIP AN EMPTY TOMB, BUT IT'S A WONDERFUL PIECE OF EVIDENCE.
• 07:44 WHO IN THE WORLD WOULD BUILD SUCH A TOMB OUT OF STONE AND PAY FOR THAT
• 07:48 AND NEVER USE IT, EXCEPT A MAN OF THE KINDNESS AND FAITH OF JOSEPH OF ARAMETHEA.
• 07:55 JESUS WENT ON,
• 08:06 WE REALIZED YESTERDAY THAT THIS IS A PROPOSAL OF MARRIAGE,
• 08:09 THIS WHOLE IDEA OF HIS GOING TO HEAVEN LIKE THE BRIDEGROOM
• 08:12 GOES TO HIS FATHER'S HOUSE AND PREPARES A PLACE FOR THE BRIDE,
• 08:16 HE'S GOING TO COME BACK AND TAKE US THERE.
• 08:18 IT'S A ROMANTIC THING.
• 08:20 IT'S IN THE BOOK OF LUKE, JESUS SAYS
• 08:23 WITH DESIRE, HAVE I DESIRED TO EAT THIS PASSOVER WITH YOU.
• 08:28 SO IT'S A LOVE STORY.
• 08:29 AND I CALL IT THE CHRISTIAN LOVE STORY WHEN I TEACH IT.
• 08:32 I ALSO CALL IT "CONGRATULATIONS, YOU'RE ENGAGED".
• 09:01 WOW, IT'S THE ANSWER TO ALL THOSE WHO SAY HE NEVER CLAIMED TO BE THE MESSIAH.
• 09:06 EITHER HE CLAIMED TO BE THE MESSIAH OR HE'S COMPLETELY CRAZY.
• 09:10 WHICH OF US CAN SAY, I AM THE WAY, NOBODY COMES TO GOD BUT THROUGH ME?
• 09:14 ONLY ONE PERSON CAN SAY THAT. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL STATEMENT.
• 09:18 I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE
• 09:20 (SPEAKING HEBREW) THE WAY, THE TRUTH, THE LIFE.
• 09:27 AND THAT ANSWERED THOMAS.
• 09:29 HE DIDN'T SPEAK UP AGAIN.
• 09:31 BUT, THEN PHILIP SPOKE UP AND HE SAID
• 09:40 HE SAID SHOW US HERE IN THIS ROOM WHAT ABRAHAM NEVER SAW,
• 09:47 WHAT KING SOLOMAN NEVER SAW, WHAT JOB NEVER SAW, WHAT NOAH NEVER SAW.
• 09:52 SHOW US ALMIGHTY GOD AND WE'LL BELIEVE YOU.
• 09:58 WHAT A STATEMENT.
• 10:00 JESUS WOULD HAVE BEEN WITHIN HIS RIGHTS TO SAY,
• 10:03 WELL, YOU KNOW PHILIP, I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU GOD REAL SOON HERE.
• 10:06 I'M GOING SEND YOU ON AHEAD OF US.
• 10:09 BUT, HE WAS MUCH KINDER THAN THAT.
• 10:42 HE HAD SEEN ENOUGH TO KNOW.
• 10:45 THE DISCIPLES CONDITION OF OBJECTIONS AND QUESTIONS, THEY WERE LIKE US.
• 10:51 THEY WEREN'T PERFECT IN THEIR FAITH.
• 10:53 PETER IS GOING ON HERE SHORTLY AND DENY HE EVEN KNEW THE MAN, THREE TIME OVER.
• 10:59 THOMAS DOUBTS EVERYTHING HE SEES.
• 11:02 PHILLIP ASKS ANNOYING QUESTIONS.
• 11:04 JUDAS TURNED HIM IN ALTOGETHER.
• 11:06 THAT'S FOUR OUT OF TWELVE.
• 11:07 THAT'S A THIRD OF THE ONE'S HE CHOSE THAT WENT SOUR MORE OR LESS.
• 11:14 BUT, THEN PETER RECOVERED BY THE TIME OF PENTECOST, DIDN'T HE.
• 11:17 IT'S ONLY 7 WEEKS LATER AND HE PREACHED A SERMON FROM THE PROPHET JOEL AND OBSCURE PSALMS.
• 11:23 I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO GO THE LORD'S 40 DAY BIBLE SCHOOL.
• 11:26 HE SAYS HE WAS WITH THEM FORTY DAYS AND HE TAUGHT THEM THE THINGS OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
• 11:32 WHAT'S THE SUBJECT OF THAT 6 WEEK BIBLE COURSE?
• 11:35 THE OLD TESTAMENT.
• 11:36 THAT'S WHERE THE KINGDOM OF GOD ARE WRITTEN.
• 11:39 IN EZEKIEL, IN ISAIAH, IN JEREMIAH
• 11:42 THE LION WILL LIE DOWN WITH THE LAMB,
• 11:43 MEN SHALL NOT LEARN WAR ANYMORE IN MY HOLY MOUNTAIN.
• 11:46 UNTO US A CHILD IS BORN, A SON IS GIVEN.
• 11:52 THOSE ARE THE THINGS HE TAUGHT THEM.
• 11:53 BOY, WHEN THEY GOT DONE WITH THAT 6 WEEKS,
• 11:55 THEY WERE CHANGED MEN AND THEY WENT ON AND CHANGED THE WORLD.
• 11:59 BUT IT ALL STARTED RIGHT HERE WHEN JESUS DREW THE DIFFERENCE
• 12:03 BETWEEN WHAT WE KNOW IS WORLDLY RELIGION AND CHRISTIANITY,
• 12:10 THE BEAUTIFUL POINT THAT THE MESSIAH IS GOING TO RETURN.
• 12:13 NONE OF THESE OTHER GODS IS SCHEDULED FOR A TRIP BACK.
• 12:18 NONE ARE GOING TO TAKE US OUT OF HERE.
• 12:24 FALSE MESSIAHS MAKE CLAIMS OF ALL KINDS EVEN TODAY, BUT, I HAVEN'T HEARD ONE SAY,
• 12:40 ♪ HALLELUJAH, HALLELUJAH, ♪ HALLELUJAH, HALLELUJAH.
• 13:16 FOR A BIBLICAL PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT IS HAPPENING IN ISRAEL AND THE MIDDLE EAST,
• 13:20 ASK FOR ZOLA'S FREE MONTHLY NEWSLETTER, THE LEVITT LETTER.
• 13:28 ZOLA'S NEW KINGDOM CATALOG DESCRIBES HIS BOOKS, TEACHING TAPES AND CORRESPONDENCE COURSE.
• 13:35 FOR ZOLA'S FREE NEWSLETTER AND CATALOG, PLEASE CALL
• 13:45 YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO, TONY, WE HAD A TOUR IN THE UPPER ROOM
• 13:48 AND OTHER GROUPS STARTED TO COME IN.
• 13:52 THERE WERE PEOPLE FROM NIGERIA, THERE WERE ORIENTALS,
• 13:56 I MEAN THE WORLD SORT OF WALKED IN SO I WRAPPED UP OUR LESSON
• 14:00 THINKING THE OTHER TEACHERS WOULD WANT TO SPEAK
• 14:02 AND WE JUST USUALLY CLOSE OUR SERVICE WITH "AMAZING GRACE" AND AS WE SANG IT,
• 14:09 ALL THOSE PEOPLE FROM ALL THOSE NATIONS SANG IT, EACH IN THEIR OWN LANGUAGE.
• 14:15 AND IT WAS LIKE PENTECOST.
• 14:16 IT WAS VERY, VERY TOUCHING.
• 14:19 I THINK WHEN PEOPLE GO INTO THE UPPER ROOM
• 14:21 AND REALIZE THEY'RE IN THE VERY PRESENCE OF THE LORD, SOMETHING COMES OVER THEM.
• 14:25 IT'S VERY, VERY BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO BE AND VERY AUTHENTIC, I THINK.
• 14:30 OUR PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS TOUCHED AT THE TIMES OF TEACHING IN THE UPPER ROOM,
• 14:34 THE TIME THEY CAN SPEND IN PRAYING AND THE SINGING TOGETHER.
• 14:38 WE'RE REALLY IN AN INTERNATIONAL PLACE.
• 14:41 THE LORD HEARS ALL PRAYERS IN ALL LANGUAGES.
• 14:44 AND THAT'S WHEN OUR LORD SAID, I'LL GO TO PREPARE A PLACE FOR YOU
• 14:47 AND I'LL COME BACK AND TAKE YOU THERE SO YOU CAN BE WHERE I AM.
• 14:50 MOHAMMED IS NOT SCHEDULED FOR A TRIP BACK AND NEITHER IS BUDDHA BUT, OUR LORD IS.
• 14:56 WELL, WE WENT THEN AND TALKED WITH PRIME MINISTER BARAK ABOUT THE PEACE PROCESS.
• 15:11 AN OFFER WAS PUT ON THE TABLE BY AN AMERICAN PRESIDENT
• 15:14 THAT IN EXCHANGE FOR END OF CONFLICT AND CERTAIN ISRAELI SECURITY DEMANDS,
• 15:19 WOULD GIVE THE PALESTINIANS AN INDEPENDENT PALESTINIAN STATE,
• 15:23 NO PROVISIONARY, INDEPENDENT PALESTINIAN STATE CONTIGUOUS OVER 90+% OF THE WEST BANK
• 15:29 AND 100% OF THE GAZA STRIP WITH A RIGHT OF RETURN FOR REFUGEES INTO THE PALESTINIAN STATE,
• 15:37 OF COURSE, NOT IN TO ISRAEL AND EVEN CERTAIN FOOTHOLD IN EASTERN JERUSALEM
• 15:42 IN THE ARAB POPULATED NEIGHBORHOODS AS PART OF THEIR PALESTINIAN CAPITOL.
• 15:48 THE OFFER WAS MUCH CLOSER TO THE PALESTINIAN DEMANDS THAN TO OURS,
• 15:53 BUT I SAID WITH ALL MY RESERVATIONS, OUT OF NATIONAL RESPONSIBILITY,
• 15:56 I AM READY TO TAKE IT AS A BASIS FOR NEGOTIATION IF THE OTHER SIDE WILL.
• 16:02 I FOUND OUT THAT ARAFAT DID NOT, WAS NOT READY,
• 16:06 WALKED OUT OF THE ROOM AND TRIED SINCE THEN TO TURN TO TERRORISM
• 16:10 IN ORDER TO DICTATE HIS DEMANDS AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL NEVER YIELD TO
• 16:15 AND I BELIEVE THAT IT GAINED US, BOTH THE MORAL HIGH GROUND IN THE EYES OF HONEST PEOPLE
• 16:19 AND THE ULTIMATELY HONEST GOVERNMENTS OF THE WORLD
• 16:22 AS WELL AS THE UNITY THAT WE ENJOY NOW, FACING THIS DAILY STRUGGLE AGAINST TERROR.
• 16:28 THIS IS NOT CONFLICT ABOUT LANDS WHEN WE WILL COME IN THE FUTURE
• 16:35 TO DAYS IN WHICH THE CONFLICT WILL BE ABOUT BORDERS OR LANDS, THEN WE CAN SOLVE IT.
• 16:41 IT'S ABOUT EXISTENCE OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL AND I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLAIN.
• 16:48 LET'S ADOPT FOR THIS TALK, THE IDEA OF THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY
• 16:57 AND ALSO PRESIDENT BUSH'S VISION ABOUT HOW TO END THE CONFLICT IN A 2 STATE SOLUTION.
• 17:04 NOW, USUALLY YOU CAN FIND PALESTINIANS TALKING ABOUT THE NEED OF 2 STATE SOLUTION
• 17:10 AND ABOUT THE NEED AND OBLIGATION OF THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY
• 17:14 TO ESTABLISH A NEW PALESTINIAN STATE AS HOMELAND OF PALESTINIANS.
• 17:21 BUT THEN, ALSO IN TABA AND CAMP DAVID 2 YEARS AGO,
• 17:27 ARAFAT, THAT COULD HAVE CELEBRATED NOW,
• 17:29 THE SECOND ANNIVERSARY OF A PALESTINIAN STATE, SAID NO.
• 17:33 AND WHY, BECAUSE IT WAS NOT LAND, BECAUSE HE DEMANDED THEN,
• 17:40 THE RIGHT OF RETURN OF REFUGEES TO THE LAND OF ISRAEL.
• 17:44 NOW IF THE CONCEPT IS THAT THE PALESTINIAN NARRATIVE
• 17:46 IS THAT THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL IS THE DAY OF DISASTER, OK,
• 17:55 AND THERE'S A NEED TO ESTABLISH A NEW HOMELAND FOR PALESTINIANS,
• 17:58 HOW COME HE STILL DEMANDS THAT THE 2 STATES
• 18:03 ISRAEL AND PALESTINE WILL HAVE TO NEGOTIATE ABOUT PEOPLE OR INDIVIDUALS OF HIS OWN PEOPLE.
• 18:14 WE WILL NEVER BE APOLOGETIC ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE WON AND SURVIVED THE RULES
• 18:19 THAT WERE IMPOSED UPON US BY THE PALESTINIANS AND THE ARAB WORLD.
• 18:25 WE RESPECT THEM. WE UNDERSTAND THEIR NEEDS.
• 18:28 WE ARE READY TO STRETCH OUR ONE HAND TO MAKE PEACE,
• 18:32 BUT WE WILL NEVER LOSE OUR SIGHT FROM THE SWEATS FROM OUR OTHER HAND
• 18:36 FROM HAVING A FINGER ON THE TRIGGER TO DEFEND OURSELVES.
• 18:42 WE ARE LIVING IN, NOT IN THE MIDWEST, BUT IN THE MIDDLE EAST,
• 18:46 THAT'S TOUGH NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE PEOPLE WHO CANNOT LOOK REALITY IN THE EYE
• 18:52 AND READY TO FIGHT FOR THEMSELVES, WOULD NOT SURVIVE.
• 18:57 MY MOTHER CALLED ME ONE DAY AND SHE WAS VERY UPSET.
• 19:00 IT WAS AFTER ONE THE SUICIDE BOMBER ATTACKS IN OUR CITY
• 19:06 AND SHE SAID, IT TOOK ME BACK TO 1929 WHEN SHE WAS A YOUNG GIRL, A CHILD IN HAIFA
• 19:20 AND SHE REMEMBERED THEN THAT SHE HAD TO HIDE
• 19:25 BECAUSE ARABS RAN AFTER JEWISH PEOPLE WITH KNIVES CALLING
• 19:29 (SPEAKING ARABIC) AND KILL ALL THE JEWS.
• 19:33 SO, WHEN YOU ARE JUDGING OR THINKING ABOUT THIS CONFLICT,
• 19:39 IT'S NOT ABOUT BORDERS, IT'S ABOUT A CONFLICT THAT GOES SO MANY YEARS.
• 19:46 IF WE WANT TO STICK TO ANY PIECE OF LAND THAT WAS PROMISED TO US BY THE ALMIGHTY,
• 19:55 WE'LL END UP WITH HAVING WITHIN OUR BORDERS, MAYBE ONE THIRD OR 30% OR 40% OF PALESTINIANS.
• 20:05 NOW, IF THERE IS ONLY ONE POLITICAL UNIT BETWEEN THE JORDAN RIVER,
• 20:10 SEVERAL DOZEN MILES TO THE EAST AND THE MEDITERRANEAN ABOUT ONE TO TWO MILES TO THE WEST HERE.
• 20:17 THERE LIVE 10 MILLION PEOPLE.
• 20:19 IF THERE IS ONLY ONE POLITICAL UNIT CALLED ISRAEL OF THIS AREA
• 20:24 AND 6.5 ARE ISRAELI AND 6.5 ARE PALESTINIAN
• 20:28 IT WILL BECOME INEVITABLY EITHER NON-JEWISH OR NON-DEMOCRATIC.
• 20:34 IF THEY CAN VOTE AS A COLLECTIVE, IT'S A BI-NATIONAL STATE PAR EXCELLENCE.
• 20:38 IF THEY CANNOT VOTE, IT'S AN APARTHEID SYSTEM PAR EXCELLENCE.
• 20:42 NEITHER IS DISONI'S DREAM.
• 20:44 SO, THIS IS PAINFUL FOR ME AND I WAS CRITICIZED BY MY SUPPORTERS ON THE LEFT
• 20:49 FOR SHOWING TOO MUCH SYMPATHY, EMOTION TO THE SETTLERS.
• 20:54 THEY ARE REALLY PIONEERS, BUT WE SHOULD REALIZE THAT THERE IS A CONTRADICTION HERE
• 20:59 BETWEEN THE NEEDS OF JEWISH IDENTITY,
• 21:03 WHICH MEANS TO SET A BORDER WITHIN WHICH WE'LL HAVE A JEWISH MAJORITY
• 21:08 SOLELY TO ONE FULL GENERATION IN OUR AFFILIATION EMOTIONAL AND OTHERWISE TO ALL THESE PLACES.
• 21:16 WE HAVE TO LET THE HEAVILY POPULATED AREAS BECOME A PALESTINIAN STATE
• 21:20 WITHOUT LOSING OUR SITE OF OUR RELATIONSHIP TO IT
• 21:24 AND CONCENTRATE ON A SLIGHTLY SMALLER, BUT MUCH MORE HOMO- GENEOUS JEWISH DEMOCRATIC STATE
• 21:31 THAT WILL BE STRONG AND STABLE HERE FOREVER.
• 21:45 PRIME MINISTER BARAK SUPPORTS THIS LAND FOR PEACE IDEA.
• 21:49 FRANKLY, I DISAGREE AND SO DO MANY OTHERS.
• 21:52 I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY PRECEDENT FOR PEOPLE TO GIVE UP THEIR LAND
• 21:55 JUST SO SOMEBODY WON'T ATTACK THEM.
• 21:57 WE TALK ABOUT THIS CONCEPT THAT ISRAEL IS SOMEHOW GOLIATH
• 22:04 AND THE POOR PALESTINIANS AMOUNT TO THE TEENAGE YOUNGSTER DAVID
• 22:09 IN SOME KIND OF VERY UNEVEN BATTLE.
• 22:13 WHEN EVERYBODY'S LOOKING AT THIS CONFLICT,
• 22:16 IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE THE BIGGER, WE HAVE THE POWER, WE HAVE THE WEAPONS
• 22:20 AND THE PALESTINIANS ARE THE UNDERDOG IN THE STORY.
• 22:23 BUT, FOR US, IT IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT BECAUSE AFTER ALL WE'VE PASSED,
• 22:31 EVEN AFTER THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL AND BEFORE IN THE HOLOCAUST
• 22:36 AND BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT OUR MORAL STANDARDS PREVENTS US AND WILL PREVENT US IN THE FUTURE,
• 22:45 TO USE THE POWER JUST TO DEMOLISH, YOU KNOW, ALL THE PALESTINIANS CITIES,
• 22:52 WE FEEL VERY VULNERABLE IN THIS CONFLICT
• 22:57 AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S A NEED FOR US IN EVERY AGREEMENT
• 23:01 TO BE SURE THAT WE ARE TAKING CARE FOR THE SECURITY OF THE NEXT GENERATION.
• 23:08 I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE FACING A WORLD WAR AGAINST TERROR AND IT WILL TAKE YEARS,
• 23:15 MAYBE HALF A GENERATION, NOT SEVERAL MONTHS OR A YEAR OR TWO
• 23:20 AND THERE IS NO WAY, NOTHING TO MAKE A SHORTCUT.
• 23:26 IT'S GOING TO BE A MARATHON NOT A SPRINT
• 23:28 AND NOTHING SHORT OF COMPLETE AND UNCONDITIONAL VICTORY OVER RADICAL MUSLIM TERROR WILL DO.
• 23:39 WE SHOULD UNDERSTAND IT WELL.
• 23:41 THE OBJECTIVES OF THESE TERRORISTS ARE,
• 23:45 NUMBER ONE, TO ROOT THE U.S. PRESENCE AND INFLUENCE
• 23:51 ON THE SAUDI ARABIAN PENINSULA OUT OF THE ARABIAN PENINSULA.
• 23:56 NUMBER TWO, IS TO TOPPLE DOWN THE RELATIVELY PRAGMATIC MODERATE ARABIC REGIME
• 24:02 AND THE OBSESSIONS THEN MOVE ON TO THE DESTRUCTION OF ISRAEL.
• 24:07 I WATCHED ON TV, THERE WAS AN INTERVIEW OF A PALESTINIAN MOTHER
• 24:10 AFTER HER SON, 15 YEARS OLD, WAS A SUICIDE BOMBER
• 24:18 AND SHE'S TALKING ABOUT SENDING THE OTHER SON,
• 24:21 SO, UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S NOT A WAR SOLDIER AGAINST SOLDIERS,
• 24:25 THIS IS THE KIND OF WAR THAT WE ARE PARTICIPATING IN.
• 24:29 I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE DEALT WITH LIKE THE PIRATES,
• 24:32 THE WAY THAT OUR FOREFATHERS DEALT WITH PIRATES ON THE HIGH SEAS.
• 24:36 NAMELY, EVERY VESSEL BECAME A TARGET.
• 24:41 NO PORT WAS ALLOWED TO HARBOR THEM OR GIVE THEM FRESH FOOD OR FRESH WATER
• 24:48 AND WHOEVER VIOLATED, BECAME AUTOMATICALLY ISOLATED FROM THE REST OF THE WORLD.
• 24:53 IT TOOK OUR FOREFATHERS SOME 20 YEARS TO ACHIEVE A SEA CHANGE
• 24:58 AND I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE FACING THE SAME ROOT BASICALLY THE STRATEGY
• 25:04 AND THE POLICIES THAT ARE TAKEN BY THE AMERICAN ADMINISTRATION UNDER PRESIDENT BUSH
• 25:11 SET A VERY HIGH STANDARD OF MORAL AND STRATEGIC CLARITY
• 25:18 AND I BELIEVE THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT SHOULD HAPPEN
• 25:22 IS THAT ALL THE DEBATES THAT WE HAVE, WE SEE IT IN AMERICA SO TYPICALLY
• 25:26 AND ALL THE WORLD ARENA WILL NOT DILUTE THIS CLARITY.
• 25:43 THERE REALLY ARE NO SURPRISES IN THE ISRAEL SITUATION TODAY.
• 25:47 PROPHECY PREDICTS IT ALL.
• 25:50 HEAR THE PALESTINIANS DENY ISRAEL'S EXISTENCE,
• 25:52 THEY USE TERROR, THEY TELL LIES, THEY ARE CHEATS.
• 25:56 I'M SORRY TO PUT IT IS SUCH PLAIN WORDS, BUT THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY.
• 26:00 THEY ACCUSE ISRAELIS OF BARBAROUS THINGS.
• 26:03 THEIR TV NOW SHOWS ISRAELI SOLDIERS, SUPPOSEDLY CUTTING OFF PEOPLES HEADS AND SO FORTH,
• 26:09 LIES AND MORE LIES, PROPAGANDA AND SO ON.
• 26:14 I DON'T FAVOR THIS LAND FOR PEACE THING.
• 26:17 OF COURSE, THEY WANT THE LAND.
• 26:20 BUT, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE PEACE.
• 26:21 THEY SIMPLY WANT THE WHOLE LAND.
• 26:23 WHERE WE'RE GOING IS INVASIONS LIKE GOG AND MAGOG AND FINALLY ARMAGEDDON
• 26:28 IN THE UNBELIEVERS UNDENIABLE QUEST TO GET THE JEWS OUT OF ISRAEL.
• 26:33 THAT'S THE WHOLE REST OF SECULAR HISTORY.
• 26:36 WELL, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, WE ARE GOING TO
• 26:39 SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALYIM, PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.