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Caption transcript for Voices From Israel: “Stand For Truth” (1/10)

• 00:06 THIS PLACE IS PART OF YOUR HERITAGE.
• 00:09 THIS PLACE IS PART OF YOUR DREAM.
• 00:11 PEOPLE OF THE BIBLE ARE IN CHARGE OF THE LAND OF THE BIBLE.
• 00:13 I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY TIMES IN HISTORY
• 00:15 WHEN CHRISTIANS HAVE LOOKED THE OTHER WAY WHEN JEWISH PEOPLE WERE BEING ATTACKED.
• 00:19 WE WILL ULTIMATELY SEE THE WORLD CHANGE.
• 00:22 GOD'S PURPOSES FOR ISRAEL JUST MARCH ON, DON'T THEY?
• 00:32 SHALOM, HELLO AGAIN. WELCOME TO OUR NEW SERIES, "VOICES FROM ISRAEL".
• 00:37 THESE ARE VOICES THAT WERE FILMED AND TAPED IN ISRAEL.
• 00:42 ALL KINDS OF VOICES, FROM FORMER PRIME MINISTERS AND THE MAYOR OF JERUSALEM
• 00:45 TO ORDINARY CITIZENS IN THE STREETS, VISITORS, PILGRIMS, CHRISTIANS, ZIONISTS ALL.
• 00:52 ZIONISTS ARE PEOPLE WHO FAVOR THE JEWS GOING BACK TO RESETTLE THE BIBLICAL LAND.
• 00:56 AMONG THOSE ARE CHRISTIANS, FINE, THEY ARE CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS.
• 01:00 WITH US IS TONY DERRICK.
• 01:02 TONY, YOU'RE THE GUY ON THE PHONE IN OUR OFFICE WHEN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ISRAEL.
• 01:07 HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU BEEN THERE?
• 01:08 ZOLA, THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN MY EIGHTH TIME TO GO.
• 01:12 WHAT THE PEOPLE WILL SEE IN THIS PROGRAM IS, AS YOU HAVE MENTIONED,
• 01:17 A VARIETY OF PEOPLE THAT FEEL THEIR CALLING TO COME TO ISRAEL,
• 01:22 WHETHER IT'S THE JEWISH PERSON THAT'S COMING BACK HOME TO THEIR HOMELAND
• 01:25 OR THE TRAVELER THAT JUST SENSES FROM GOD THIS IS THEIR MISSION,
• 01:29 THIS IS WHAT THEY SHOULD DO, THIS IS WHERE THEY NEED TO BE FOR THIS PARTICULAR TIME.
• 01:32 AS THE ISRAELIS SAY DURING THIS DIFFICULT SITUATION, THAT'S WHAT THEY CALL IT, THE PEOPLE COME
• 01:40 AND THEY WANT TO SUPPORT THE PEOPLE THERE, THE LAND AND ALSO SEE IT FOR THEMSELVES.
• 01:45 SOMETIMES ISRAELIS SAY, BE AMBASSADORS FOR US WHEN YOU GO HOME.
• 01:51 PEOPLE TEND TO DO THAT, DON'T THEY?
• 01:54 WHAT BETTER WAY TO BE AN AMBAS- SADOR THAN TO HAVE FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE.
• 02:00 TAKE THOSE EXPERIENCES WITH YOU WHEREVER YOU GO
• 02:03 BECAUSE BY DEFINITION AN AMBASSADOR IS ONE WHO GOES OUT IN THE NAME OF SOMEONE.
• 02:07 IN THIS INSTANCE, GOES OUT IN THE NAME OF OUR LORD, THE MESSIAH
• 02:11 INTO THE WORLD TO TEACH THOSE THAT THAT IS THE PROMISED LAND.
• 02:15 GOD CHOSE THE PEOPLE AND THROUGH THAT HE BROUGHT THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST.
• 02:19 AMONG THE VERY FIRST CHRISTIAN, ZIONIST AMBASSADORS WERE PETER AND PAUL, I GUESS.
• 02:25 THE MISSIONS TO THE EMPIRE.
• 02:27 WE'RE GOING TO GO TO LOCATION OUT TO EIN KAREM.
• 02:29 YOU'LL SEE TIRED PEOPLE GETTING OFF THE AIRPLANE
• 02:32 AND THEN THEY GO THROUGH THE VILLAGE OF EIN KAREM.
• 02:36 THEY ARRIVE AT RAMAT RACHEL. NOW TO LOCATION IN ISRAEL.
• 02:40 BEN GURION AIRPORT IN TEL AVIV IS THE PRIMARY ENTRY POINT FOR THOSE FLYING TO ISRAEL,
• 02:49 WHETHER THEY'RE MAKING ALIYAH BY MOVING TO ISRAEL,
• 02:52 RETURNING HOME AFTER TRAVELING ABROAD OR RECEIVING A SPECIAL WELCOME.
• 03:01 THESE YOUNG MEN SINGING IN HEBREW ARE WAITING EXPECTANTLY FOR THEIR FRIEND TO ARRIVE.
• 03:06 [MUSIC - SINGING]
• 03:25 THESE SMILING FACES ARE THE FIRST OF OUR ARRIVALS.
• 03:28 THEY'VE MADE IT TO THE PROMISED LAND.
• 03:31 FOR SOME IT'S A RETURN VISIT, PERHAPS THEIR SECOND OR THIRD PILGRIMAGE,
• 03:35 WHILE FOR OTHERS IT'S A FIRST TIME, THE TRIP OF A LIFETIME.
• 03:39 KEN ASKED FOR THEIR FIRST IMPRESSIONS.
• 03:42 DID YOU HAVE GOOD FLIGHT? >>YES. >>YES?
• 03:45 FIRST TIME TO ISRAEL? >>YEAH.
• 03:47 HOW DO YOU FEEL? >>I DON'T KNOW. IT'S EXCITING.
• 03:53 AFTER THE BAGGAGE IS LOADED ONTO THE BUS OUR ISRAELI GUIDE INTRODUCES HIMSELF.
• 04:00 MY NAME IS ILAN. ILAN - I L A N, ILAN, AND I'LL BE YOUR GUIDE TODAY.
• 04:06 I'LL TAKE YOU TO JERUSALEM.
• 04:10 WE'RE GOING TO BE IN JERUSALEM IN ABOUT ONE HOUR.
• 04:16 WE'LL HAVE A SHORT BREAK FOR LUNCH IN EMMAUS.
• 04:18 I WANT TO WISH YOU ALL A PLEASANT VISIT HERE IN THE HOLY LAND.
• 04:26 I ALSO WANT TO EXPRESS MY DEEP FEELINGS FOR YOUR COMING IN THIS DIFFICULT TIME FOR ISRAEL.
• 04:33 SO THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.
• 04:36 [APPLAUSE]
• 04:38 AS WE'RE GETTING UNDERWAY, WE ASK SOME PEOPLE THEIR THOUGHTS AS THEIR TRIP WAS JUST BEGINNING
• 04:44 WELL, I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY TIMES IN HISTORY
• 04:49 WHEN CHRISTIANS HAVE LOOKED THE OTHER WAY WHEN JEWISH PEOPLE WERE BEING ATTACKED
• 04:52 AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ON MY WATCH.
• 04:54 THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT WHY I'VE COME OVER.
• 04:57 THAT'S THE MAIN REASON FOR ME TO COME OVER HERE AND SUPPORT ISRAEL.
• 05:00 AND YOU'RE NOT AFRAID OF POTENTIAL PROBLEMS OVER HERE?
• 05:03 NO. I THINK IT'S PART OF GOD'S WILL FOR US TO COME OVER HERE
• 05:06 AND GIVE OUR SUPPORT AND WHATEVER HAPPENS, WE'RE IN HIS HANDS.
• 05:10 AFTER THE BUS TRAVELS TO A NEARBY LUNCH STOP, SOME OF THE OTHERS
• 05:15 GIVE THEIR THOUGHTS ABOUT TRAVELING TO ISRAEL UNDER LESS THAN IDEAL CONDITIONS.
• 05:21 I WANTED TO COME BACK AGAIN FROM THE DAY I WAS HERE BEFORE.
• 05:24 I KNEW I SOMEDAY WANTED TO COME BACK.
• 05:27 I THINK NOW AS MUCH AS ANY TIME WAS A GOOD TIME, A GOOD TIME TO COME BACK TO SEE.
• 05:35 I KNOW WHAT THE NEWS TELLS YOU IS NOT WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING OVER HERE,
• 05:40 BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE HERE IN 1996 WHEN THEY WENT THROUGH THE TUNNEL
• 05:43 INTO THE WALL, AT HOME EVERYBODY THOUGHT WE WERE IN BIG TROUBLE.
• 05:48 BUT WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON OVER HERE.
• 05:50 IT WAS JUST A PEACEFUL AND AS CALM AS CAN BE.
• 05:55 ON THE OTHERSIDE, JUST BEING HERE.
• 05:58 IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE, REALLY, JUST BEING HERE.
• 06:02 ANY PLACE HERE IS FINE, JUST PLANT ME.
• 06:04 I'VE ALREADY TOLD THE PEOPLE AT WORK, ONE OF THESE DAYS I WON'T COME BACK.
• 06:10 AS WE WERE GOING UP TO JERUSALEM OUR FIRST STOP IS IN EIN KAREM.
• 06:16 THIS IS THE CHURCH OF ST. JOHN. YOU CAN SEE NOW STRAIGHT AHEAD.
• 06:19 TODAY THIS SMALL ARTISTS COLONY IS ALMOST A SUBURB OF JERUSALEM,
• 06:23 YET ILAN TELLS US THIS PLACE HAS HISTORY GOING BACK TO BIBLE TIMES.
• 06:29 YOU'RE IN A VERY SHORT DISTANCE FROM JERUSALEM; ABOUT 2 HOURS WALK FROM THE OLD CITY.
• 06:36 NOW THIS SPRING NAMED AFTER MARY, TELLS YOU THAT THIS IS THE BIRTH PLACE OF JOHN.
• 06:42 IT'S NAMED AFTER MARY; EIN KAREM IS NAMED AFTER MARY.
• 06:46 ELIZABETH, THE MOTHER OF JOHN, WAS THE COUSIN OF MARY.
• 06:53 WHEN THEY WERE PREGNANT, MARY CAME TO VISIT ELIZABETH HERE IN EIN KAREM.
• 07:02 MARY CAME ALL THE WAY FROM GALILEE TO JERUSALEM TO VISIT HER COUSIN ELIZABETH.
• 07:10 IT'S A LONG WAY. IT WOULD TAKE ABOUT 7 OR 8 DAYS TO WALK.
• 07:16 THERE WAS A CHURCH HERE IN THE VILLAGE THAT COMMEMORATES THE VISIT OF MARY.
• 07:21 IT'S CALLED THE CHURCH OF THE VISITATION.
• 07:26 THE CHURCH WAS DEDICATED TO MARY AND ALSO THE SPRING OF THE VILLAGE IS DEDICATED TO MARY.
• 07:34 LEAVING EIN KAREM, WE DRIVE TO KIBBUTZ RAMAT RACHEL,
• 07:40 LOCATED ON THE SOUTHERN PART OF JERUSALEM, OVERLOOKING BETHLEHEM.
• 07:44 ♪ ♪
• 07:58 IT'S HERE THAT WE RECEIVE THE TRADITIONAL GLASS OF ORANGE JUICE UPON ARRIVAL.
• 08:05 AFTER CHECKING IN, WE HEAD FOR JERUSALEM'S OLD CITY.
• 08:09 DAVID'S TOWER OR CITADEL STANDS AS A LANDMARK AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE JAFFA GATE.
• 08:16 THE SITES AND SOUNDS OF ISRAEL BEGIN TO WEAVE A TAPESTRY
• 08:19 THAT WILL BE CHERISHED BY THE PILGRIMS FOR YEARS TO COME.
• 08:25 ♪ ♪
• 10:00 THANK YOU, TONY, FOR THAT INTERESTING VOICE OVER OF THE BEGINNING OF OUR TRIP.
• 10:06 WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.
• 10:07 IT'S BEEN MY PLEASURE, ZOLA. THANK YOU.
• 10:09 ON ONE OF THESE TRIPS I SAT DOWN WITH RUTH MATAR.
• 10:12 SHE'S A DYNAMIC PERSONALITY. SHE'S AN AMERICAN.
• 10:16 SHE'S NOT A YOUNG LADY. SHE HAS A FEW YEARS.
• 10:21 SHE JUST TOOK IT IN HER HEART TO BE A REAL PROMOTER OF ISRAEL AND, IF NECESSARY,
• 10:27 AN OPPOSER OF THE GOVERNMENT IN POWER OR OF POLITICIANS WHO DON'T SEE IT HER WAY.
• 10:34 SHE HAS BECOME A FORCE. SHE HAS FOUNDED A GROUP CALLED, THE WOMEN IN GREEN.
• 10:39 THEY GO AROUND IN GREEN T-SHIRTS AND THEY CARRY SIGNS AND POSTERS.
• 10:44 THE NAME IS A PLAY ON THE IDEA OF THE GREEN LINE,
• 10:48 WHICH IS THE LINE BETWEEN ISRAEL PROPER AND THE TERRITORIES, WHICH IS GREEN
• 10:54 BECAUSE THE ISRAELIS UP TO THAT LINE HAVE CULTIVATED IT AND GROWN GRASS AND CROPS.
• 10:59 THEN IT'S UNCULTIVATED FROM THERE.
• 11:01 SO THE AIR OR EVEN FROM THE GROUND YOU CAN SEE A LINE OF GREEN OF A CERTAIN DEMARCATION.
• 11:07 THE WOMEN IN GREEN ARE ON THE COMPUTER. THEY'RE REALLY TERRIFIC.
• 11:11 AS I SAY, I HAD A CHANCE TO ASK HER THOUGHTS.
• 11:15 RUTH MATAR, IT'S AN HONOR TO WEAR THE HAT OF THE WOMEN IN GREEN.
• 11:20 THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING ONE FOR ME.
• 11:22 THIS IS NOT JUST TEMPORARY, ZOLA, THAT YOU'RE WEARING IT FOR THIS PROGRAM.
• 11:26 IT MEANS THAT YOU'RE NOW A MAN IN GREEN
• 11:29 AND THAT YOU HAVE TO FIGHT WHAT THE WOMEN IN GREEN ARE FIGHTING FOR,
• 11:33 WHICH IS VERY SIMPLY THAT LAND OF ISRAEL FOR THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL.
• 11:40 THE OTHER THING IS THAT TAPESTRY THAT I HAVE IN MY LIVING ROOM, WHICH MY SON AND I DESIGNED.
• 11:48 THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL QUOTATION AND THAT IS WHAT WE REALLY BELIEVE IN.
• 11:53 IT'S FROM ISAIAH AND IT SAYS,
• 11:56 "FOR JERUSALEM'S SAKE I WILL NOT BE SILENT".
• 12:01 THAT'S IT. WOMEN IN GREEN ARE NOT SILENT, EVER.
• 12:05 NO, YOU'RE NOT. I SEE YOUR EDITORIALS, CARTOONS ALL THE TIME IN THE JERUSALEM POST.
• 12:11 YOU HAVE A RADIO PROGRAM. I HAVE THE SAME TAPESTRY IN MY LIVING ROOM.
• 12:15 I'M VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT.
• 12:16 MY WIFE IS A WOMAN IN GREEN, A SUPPORTER.
• 12:19 I'M EVEN HAPPIER TO HEAR THAT.
• 12:22 LOOK, THIS IS EASY FOR ME. I DO BELIEVE THE LAND OF ISRAEL IS FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
• 12:27 WASN'T THERE A GROUP BEFORE YOU CALLED WOMEN IN BLACK?
• 12:31 OH, GOODNESS, YOU KNOW WHEN WE FIRST STARTED OUT,
• 12:35 WHICH WAS ACTUALLY EVEN BEFORE THE OSLO ACCORDS WERE SIGNED.
• 12:40 MR. RABIN WAS ELECTED IN 1992
• 12:43 AND WE STARTED TO SEE IT GOING DOWN HILL.
• 12:48 HE SAID, I'LL NEVER TALK TO PALESTINIANS; I WILL NEVER GO DOWN FROM THE GOLAN.
• 12:53 AS SOON AS HE WAS ELECTED, HE STARTED TO DO EVERYTHING THAT HE HAD SAID HE WASN'T GOING TO DO.
• 13:03 WE STARTED SMALL DEMONSTRATIONS, JUST 10 TO 12 LADIES, WHATEVER.
• 13:11 IT HAD TO BE PRETTY POWERFUL. WE WERE MIDDLE-CLASS LADIES.
• 13:15 JEWISH MOTHERS, RIGHT? >>WE REALLY WERE NOT THE POWER THEN.
• 13:19 THEN WE FOUNDED THE ORGANIZATION AND THE REASON WE FOUNDED THE ORGANIZATION
• 13:27 WAS THAT WE WENT TO A DEMON- STRATION OUTSIDE OF MR. RABIN'S HOUSE HERE IN JERUSALEM.
• 13:35 THE DEMONSTRATION WAS, WE DID NOT WANT HIM TO GIVE UP THE GOLAN
• 13:41 BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER SAID BY THE RABIN GOVERNMENT OR, I'M AFRAID, ANY OTHER ISRAELI GOVERNMENT.
• 13:49 THE GOLAN IS GIVEN TO US IN THE BIBLE.
• 13:53 TWO AND A HALF TRIBES WERE ASSIGNED TO THE GOLAN.
• 13:57 YES, YOU MEAN THE GOLAN HEIGHTS, WHICH ARE MENTIONED ALL THE TIME IN THE NEWS.
• 14:01 IT WAS JEWISH ALL THE TIME AND OUR, NOT THE WOMEN IN GREEN, BUT THE GOVERNMENTS BIG MISTAKE
• 14:08 AND IT STILL IS THE BIG MISTAKE IS TO SAY WE NEED IT FOR SECURITY
• 14:14 OR WE NEED IT BECAUSE OF THE WATER OR SOMETHING LIKE.
• 14:18 THAT'S NOT THE REASON, BECAUSE THEN SOMEBODY ELSE COULD SAY
• 14:21 WE'RE GOING TO GRANT YOU SECURITY; WE'RE GOING TO PROTECT YOU, WHATEVER.
• 14:26 THE REASON WE NEEDED THE GOLAN IS BECAUSE WHAT SENATOR INHOFE SAID, BECAUSE GOD SAID SO.
• 14:34 THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ABOUT. WE ARE NOT TIMID TO SAY THAT WE BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE.
• 14:41 YOU KNOW IT'S NOT SO FASHIONABLE NOW-A-DAYS, BUT WE DO BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE.
• 14:46 IT'S PRETTY FASHIONABLE WITH OUR VIEWERS.
• 14:49 YES, I THINK WITH YOUR VIEWERS IT'S FASHIONABLE AND I THINK THAT IS VERY ENCOURAGING
• 14:54 BECAUSE I THINK, AND I THINK MANY PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO THINK IN OUR NATIONALIST CAMP
• 15:00 IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ALLIANCE BETWEEN BIBLE BELIEVING JEWS AND BIBLE BELIEVING CHRISTIANS.
• 15:08 OH, ABSOLUTELY.
• 15:09 WHY WOULD ANYONE IN ISRAEL ANYHOW,
• 15:12 THINK ANYTHING ELSE EXCEPT THAT SINCE THIS IS A JEWISH LAND FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL,
• 15:20 FROM WHEN GOD GAVE IT TO ABRAHAM AND THE WHOLE WORLD CAN READ THAT IN THE SCRIPTURES
• 15:25 AND THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS VERIFY THAT THAT'S A VERY OLD LAND GRANT INDEED, WHY WOULD ANY--
• 15:31 I CAN SEE WHY THE ARABS SEE IT SOME OTHER WAY AND THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE ALWAYS DONE,
• 15:37 BUT WHY WOULD A JEWISH PERSON STANDING HERE IN THE LAND SAY WE NEED TO GIVE PART OF IT AWAY.
• 15:42 I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IT EVER GOT STARTED.
• 15:45 I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT OFTEN.
• 15:50 I THINK IT'S GHETTO MENTALITY THAT PEOPLE WHO SURVIVED THE HOLOCAUST
• 15:57 ARE PEOPLE WHO CAME FROM ARAB COUNTRIES WHERE THEY WERE REALLY PUT DOWN.
• 16:02 THEY WERE DEMIS, THEY WEREN'T REAL PEOPLE.
• 16:05 SECOND CLASS CITIZENS. >>SECOND CLASS, ABSOLUTELY.
• 16:08 SOMEHOW, UNFORTUNATELY, SOME OF THIS GENERATION FEELS
• 16:16 THAT IF WE ONLY PLEASE THE GENTILES THEY'RE GOING TO LOVE US.
• 16:22 BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LOVE US FOR THAT.
• 16:24 IN FACT I THINK THEY LOVED US MORE WHEN WE WON THE 1967 WAR
• 16:28 AND JUST SAID WE'RE HERE TO STAY. >>THAT'S TRUE.
• 16:33 AND GOD GAVE US A MIRACLE. BUT UNFORTUNATELY I THINK THE MIND SET HAS TO BE CHANGED.
• 16:41 I SOMETIMES THINK ABOUT THE JEWS IN THE DESERT AND GOD DECIDED NOT TO LET THEM IN
• 16:51 WHEN THE 12 SPIES WENT AND THEY SAID, IT'S A WONDERFUL LAND,
• 16:57 BUT THEY'RE GIANTS AND WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THEM.
• 17:00 SO THAT WHOLE GENERATION, THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED TO COME IN.
• 17:07 THAT'S RIGHT, THEY SHOWED THIS FEAR.
• 17:10 I'M AFRAID MAYBE THAT IS WHAT'S HAPPENING TO US.
• 17:13 SO YOU'RE A GRANDMOTHER AND ONE OF THE MOST POTENT FORCES AGAINST THIS GOVERNMENT'S POLICIES,
• 17:19 AT LEAST THE POLICIES OF GIVING OUT LAND OR MOVING SETTLERS AND SO ON.
• 17:23 WITH SETTLEMENTS, I SOMETIMES THINK IT'S NOT THE JEWS THAT ARE SETTLERS HERE.
• 17:31 THIS IS JEWISH LAND AND ALWAYS WAS. THE OTHERS ARE THE SETTLERS.
• 17:34 IN OTHER WORDS, IN AMERICA WHEN THE PIONEERS WENT OUT WEST THEY FOUND INDIANS.
• 17:39 THEY DIDN'T REPORT TO WASHINGTON, THERE'S SOME INDIANS SETTLERS OUR HERE.
• 17:43 THEY WERE THE NATIVES. THEY KNEW THAT.
• 17:45 WE STILL CALL THEM THE NATIVE AMERICANS.
• 17:47 WE DON'T CALL THEM SETTLERS AND WE DON'T SAY THEY ARE OCCUPYING THE LAND. WE NEVER SAID THAT.
• 17:53 EVEN THE WORD SETTLERS HAS BECOME A DEROGATORY TERM HERE, A SETTLER AND ALL OVER THE WORLD.
• 17:59 AS I SAID, I KNOW 2 PLACES IN THE BIBLE WHERE IT SAYS YOU ARE ENJOINED TO SETTLE THE LAND.
• 18:12 IN MY TRANSLATION OF THE BIBLE IT SAYS, SETTLE.
• 18:16 SOMETHING THAT I OFTEN QUOTED WHEN I SPOKE IN THE UNITED STATES RECENTLY,
• 18:22 I QUOTED LEVITICUS WHERE IT SAYS,
• 18:25 THIS LAND SHALL NOT BE SOLD IN PERPETUITY,
• 18:29 WHICH WAS SO "ON THE NAIL", BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING,
• 18:33 SELLING OUT HOMELAND FOR WHATEVER, FOR A PIECE OF PAPER OR WHATEVER.
• 18:41 BECAUSE THE LORD SAYS THE LAND IS MINE AND YOU ARE JUST SOJOURNERS AND SETTLERS HERE.
• 18:50 I LOVE THAT - SETTLERS HERE.
• 18:57 FOR A BIBLICAL PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT IS HAPPENING IN ISRAEL AND THE MIDDLE EAST,
• 19:03 ASK FOR ZOLA'S FREE MONTHLY NEWSLETTER, THE LEVITT LETTER.
• 19:10 ZOLA'S NEW KINGDOM CATALOG DESCRIBES HIS BOOKS, TEACHING TAPES AND CORRESPONDENCE COURSE.
• 19:18 FOR ZOLA'S FREE NEWSLETTER AND CATALOG, PLEASE CALL 1-800-WONDERS.
• 19:28 CAN YOU TRANSLATE THIS HAT FOR ME AND FOR OUR AUDIENCE?
• 19:32 YES, IT SAYS, [SPEAKING HEBREW] - ISRAEL IS OUR HEART.
• 19:38 ISRAEL IS OUR HEART. >>RIGHT.
• 19:40 SO IT'S PERFECTLY ALRIGHT FOR YOU TO WEAR THAT HAT WHEREVER YOU GO.
• 19:44 IT'S NOT A RADICAL, EXTREMIST MESSAGE AT ALL.
• 19:47 SOME PEOPLE HERE WOULD THINK SO. >>YES.
• 19:51 NOW, YOU HAVE A REPUTATION AS A RADICAL EXTREMISTS.
• 19:54 YOU GET IT FROM CARTOONS THAT YOU PUBLISH.
• 19:57 I LOVE YOUR CARTOONS THAT COME OUT IN THE INTERNATIONAL EDITION OF THE JERUSALEM POST.
• 20:01 IT COMES TO MY HOME. >>THEY'RE NOT EXTREME.
• 20:02 THEY'RE TRUE ON THE BUTTON. THEY'RE TRUE ON THE BUTTON.
• 20:05 WE CAN SHOW SOME OF THOSE. YOUR CARTOONIST, OLEG, IS--
• 20:10 RIGHT, A VERY INTERESTING PERSON.
• 20:12 YOU KNOW, OLEG WAS A RUSSIAN IMMIGRANT.
• 20:17 HE WAS ACTUALLY A MEDICAL DOCTOR, NOSE, EAR AND THROAT MAN.
• 20:22 WHEN HE CAME HERE HE THOUGHT, WELL, HE WAS TAKING THE EXAM TO BE A DOCTOR,
• 20:28 BUT THEN HE THOUGHT, I REALLY ALWAYS WANTED TO BE A CARTOONIST.
• 20:32 SO THIS IS MY CHANCE.
• 20:33 HE WAS ALWAYS DRAWING CARTOONS FOR HIMSELF
• 20:36 AND SO HE SUBMITTED SOME CARTOONS TO THE JERUSALEM POST.
• 20:39 AT THE TIME DAVID BAR ILLAN WAS THE EDITOR AND HE LOVED ALL THE CARTOONS AS A LOT OF US DO.
• 20:48 NOW HE LIVES IN CANADA.
• 20:50 WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH HIM THAT HE MAKES A WEEKLY CARTOON FOR US.
• 20:56 I WONDER IF HE WOULD DO SOME FOR US.
• 20:58 DAVID BAR ILLAN INTRODUCED ME TO OLEG ONE TIME.
• 21:01 I BET HE WOULD. >>I BET HE WOULD.
• 21:03 THAT'S A GOOD THOUGHT. >>I BET HE WOULD. HE IS SUPERB.
• 21:06 SOME CARTOONISTS JUST HAVE THE PEOPLE AND YOU CAN BARELY RECOGNIZE THEM,
• 21:11 BUT WITH OLEG YOU CAN SEE THE EXPRESSION OF THEIR FACE.
• 21:15 YES, HE'S WONDERFUL.
• 21:17 LET ME ASK YOU SOME OF THE HARD QUESTIONS I GET ASKED IN DEBATES.
• 21:20 I HAVE LIBERAL JEWISH FRIENDS.
• 21:23 ONE OF THEM IN PARTICULAR SAID TO ME JUST BEFORE THIS TRIP,
• 21:27 IT'S FINE, IT'S LOVELY AND BIBLICAL.
• 21:30 YOU WANT TO HAVE ALL THE LAND, ETC., BUT THERE'S A REALITY HERE.
• 21:34 THE ARAB PEOPLE ARE AT LEAST REPRODUCING FASTER THAN THE JEWS.
• 21:39 THEIR POPULATION IS GROWING AND GROWING. THEY LIVE HERE.
• 21:44 YOU EITHER HAVE TO GIVE THEM A SEPARATE NATION OR
• 21:49 YOU'LL END UP CONSTANTLY TRYING TO SUBJUGATE A PEOPLE WHICH IS GROWING BIGGER THAN YOU ARE.
• 21:54 IN THE END, IF YOU MAKE IT A TOTAL DEMOCRACY WITH THEM INCLUDED, THEY'LL VOTE YOU OUT OF OFFICE.
• 22:00 IF YOU TRY TO OCCUPY THEM, THEY'LL OUT POPULATE YOU. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO?
• 22:06 WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO?
• 22:08 WE'RE GOING TO COME TO OUR SENSES AND WE'RE GOING TO WAKE UP
• 22:11 THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL TO FINALLY COME TO THEIR SENSES.
• 22:15 THIS IS A VERY TEMPORARY REALITY.
• 22:20 WHAT WE HAVE TO GET ACROSS TO PEOPLE THAT THIS IS THE REALITY,
• 22:23 WHICH IS A MAN-CREATED REALITY OF THE LAST CENTURY.
• 22:29 WHEN WAS JORDAN? WHEN WAS EGYPT - MODERN EGYPT AS A COUNTRY?
• 22:34 THIS WAS GIVEN OUT LIKE GIFTS BY THE COLONIAL POWERS, FRANCE, BRITAIN, LIKE GIFTS.
• 22:43 YOU'RE FIGHTING THIS SHEIK AND THIS SHEIK, YOU'RE FIGHTING.
• 22:47 ONE CAN HAVE SAUDI ARABIA AND ONE CAN HAVE JORDAN.
• 22:51 DON'T FIGHT BOYS. THERE'S ENOUGH FOR EVERYBODY. SO WHAT HAPPENED?
• 22:56 THE JEWS WERE SHORT-CHANGED AGAIN.
• 22:59 BALFOUR SAID THE WHOLE BIT WAS GOING TO BE THE JEWISH HOMELAND.
• 23:03 WELL, CHOP, CHOP, CHOP AND NOW WE HAVE A VERY SMALL PART AND NOW THEY WANT TO CHOP AGAIN.
• 23:09 DO YOU KNOW THAT I READ THIS IN THE PAPER, THE MOST SHOCKING THING,
• 23:13 THAT PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON HAD PROMISED EHUD BARAK, WHO IS NOT ONE OF MY FAVORITE PEOPLE,
• 23:23 THAT HE WOULD COMPENSATE THE SETTLERS NOT ONLY FOR LEAVING,
• 23:31 BUT FOR LEAVING THEIR HOUSES INTACT SO THAT THE ARABS COULD MOVE RIGHT IN.
• 23:37 AND HE PROMISED EHUD BARAK, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, FOR THIS SCHEME.
• 23:44 IS THAT EXTRAORDINARY? >>IT'S EXTRAORDINARY.
• 23:47 HAVE YOU READ ABOUT THAT? THAT IS EXTRAORDINARY.
• 23:50 THE JERUSALEM POST, I HAVE MADE A CLIPPING OF IT.
• 23:52 I WANT TO MENTION IT ON MY RADIO PROGRAM.
• 23:56 I'M ALMOST BEFUDDLED WITH POLITICS THESE DAYS.
• 24:00 I PUT OUT A NEWSLETTER AND I WAS TRYING TO SURMISE WHAT OUGHT TO BE DONE ABOUT TERRORISM AT ONE TIME
• 24:06 AND I GOT A LETTER FROM A MILITARY PERSONALITY WHO SAID, LOOK, YOU'RE NO GENERAL.
• 24:10 LET THE POWERS THAT BE DECIDE THESE THINGS. THEY KNOW HOW.
• 24:15 AND HE SAID TO ME, YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO CONTEMPLATE A WAR
• 24:19 YOU DON'T GIVE THE ENEMY ANY CLARITY.
• 24:22 YOU KEEP HIM GUESSING AND CONFUSED.
• 24:24 I COULD ONLY SAY, IT'S NOT JUST THE ENEMY THAT'S GUESSING AND CONFUSED.
• 24:30 I THINK YOU KNOW I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT EITHER.
• 24:32 RUTH, IT'S BEEN A WONDERFUL DISCUSSION.
• 24:35 I COULD TALK TO YOU ALL DAY. I THINK I MIGHT. WE'LL JUST SHUT THE CAMERAS OFF.
• 24:39 THIS IS SUCH A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL CHANCE TO BE ALLOWED TO TALK AS MUCH AS YOU WANT.
• 24:44 YOU KNOW THERE'S ONE THING I WANT YOU TO DO FOR WOMEN IN GREEN.
• 24:48 I WANT YOU TO TRY TO OBLITERATE THAT IMAGE THAT THEY HAVE GIVEN US THAT WE ARE RADICAL, EXTREMISTS.
• 25:00 WE ARE JUST A GROUP OF GRANDMOTHERS LIKE MYSELF AND MOTHERS AND YOUNG MARRIED WOMEN
• 25:07 AND EVEN YOUNG WOMEN WHO ARE STILL GOING TO UNIVERSITY, WHATEVER.
• 25:13 WE HAVE A COMMON GOAL AND THAT IS TO PRESERVE ISRAEL AS A JEWISH COUNTRY,
• 25:20 AS IT WAS PROMISED TO US BY GOD. THAT'S OUR GOAL, VERY SIMPLE.
• 25:24 WE'RE NOT EXTREME AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO MAKE US SEEM THAT WAY, THEY HAVE AN AGENDA.
• 25:32 THEY DON'T WANT TO REALIZE THAT, BUT THEY'RE DOING IT FOR A REASON.
• 25:36 YES, SURE.
• 25:38 IF THEY CAN MAKE PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT WE ARE RADICAL EXTREMISTS THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE US.
• 25:42 I HEARD THAT YOU HAVE 15 GRANDCHILDREN.
• 25:46 THAT'S ANOTHER WAY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO WIN THE BATTLE. [LAUGHS]
• 25:51 IT DOESN'T DESCRIBE THE AVERAGE RADICAL EXTREMIST.
• 25:53 [LAUGHS]
• 25:55 THANKS A LOT, RUTH, FOR TAKING THE TIME WITH US.
• 25:57 THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON YOUR SHOW.
• 26:00 YOU HAVE TO ADMIRE RUTH MATAR AND THE WOMEN IN GREEN.
• 26:04 THEY'RE NOT THE MOST POPULAR PEOPLE IN JERUSALEM, BUT I KIND OF LIKE THEIR VIEWS.
• 26:10 THEY'RE OUTSPOKEN AND THEY'RE STRAIGHT TO THE POINT AND THEY'RE SCRIPTURAL.
• 26:13 IT IS PERFECTLY SCRIPTURAL FOR THE JEWISH PEOPLE TO SETTLE IN THE LAND OF ISRAEL;
• 26:17 NOT SETTLE, BUT THEY'RE OWNERS OF THE LAND; TO RETURN TO IT AS NATIVES AND CLAIM THE PLACE.
• 26:24 THAT'S, OF COURSE, WHAT SHE STRONGLY FAVORS.
• 26:27 AS FAR AS THE GREEN GOES, THE LORD SAYS...
• 26:30 WHEN YE BE COME INTO THE LAND YE SHALL PLANT ALL MANNER OF TREES
• 26:35 HER PEOPLE DO THAT, TOO. CULTIVATING THE LAND IS AN IMPORTANT POINT IN RESTORING IT.
• 26:42 ALSO, TO CONTINUE THE INTEGRITY OF THE LAND BY DEFENDING IT, BY HOLDING IT TOGETHER, BY GIVING
• 26:49 WHAT THEY CALL IN HEBREW A [SPEAKING HEBREW] - GOOD PUBLICITY,
• 26:52 OR GOOD NEWS ABOUT THE LAND, WHICH OUR AMBASSADORS TEND TO COME HOME AND DO.
• 26:58 NEXT WEEK WE'LL CONTINUE WITH MORE OF THE TRIP AND THE VOICES FROM ISRAEL.
• 27:03 IN THE MEANWHILE, SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALYIM, PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.