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Episode: “The Spy”
Twelve men are sent to investigate Canaan. Only Joshua and Caleb return with hopeful accounts while the other ten report negatively.
Series: “Joshua (2023)”
More than a Conqueror
In this series we examine how Joshua went from a dependable apprentice to the faithful leader of Israel during the conquering of the land of Canaan, a land promised by God to the children of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Many valuable leadership lessons can be learned from Joshua’s story taught by Dr. Jeffrey Seif from corresponding locations in Israel. David and Kirsten Hart discuss the meaning and application with the Bearded Bible Brothers, Joshua and Caleb, as we see dramatic reenactments of some of the key moments in Joshua’s life.

Caption transcript for Joshua (2023): “The Spy” (2/8)

  • 00:01 Joshua: I pray you do not die here in the desert
  • 00:04 as all the others who have questioned the Lord.
  • 00:07 Do not long for the land of the past as others do.
  • 00:10 Egypt is behind us, the promise is before us,
  • 00:13 long for the land of your children.
  • 00:15 male: Only two of the twelve spies were faithful.
  • 00:18 Find out more on Joshua: More than a Conqueror,
  • 00:20 today on "Our Jewish Roots."
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  • 00:59 David Hart: Shalom friends and thank you
  • 01:00 for joining us today, I am David Hart.
  • 01:02 Kirsten Hart: I'm Kirsten Hart.
  • 01:03 Joshua Colson: I'm Joshua. Caleb Colson: And I'm Caleb.
  • 01:05 [speaking Hebrew]
  • 01:06 Welcome my friends.
  • 01:08 Joshua Colson: This episode-- this is the one our namesake,
  • 01:11 Joshua and Caleb.
  • 01:12 The two spies with the good report.
  • 01:14 When everybody else saw giants, and they said it was impossible,
  • 01:17 we were like, "No, I think we can do this."
  • 01:20 Kirsten: And they really did see giants.
  • 01:23 I mean we kind of have fun with that like, ooh,
  • 01:25 Goliath was a giant-- like this is legit.
  • 01:27 David: And I just want to say,
  • 01:29 we both grew up in the church.
  • 01:30 My dad was a pastor, and I don't remember ever hearing the name
  • 01:35 Nephilim, or giants really talked about much in the Bible.
  • 01:38 Caleb: It's a Hebrew Word, giant is translated in English,
  • 01:40 but its Nephilim.
  • 01:41 These are the hybrid spawn of--
  • 01:43 perverted, deny Elohim, angelic beings that came down
  • 01:46 and mated with the daughters of men and
  • 01:48 created this monstrosity trying to cut off the Messianic line.
  • 01:52 It was a perversion that God sent them into
  • 01:54 and said, "Wipe them out."
  • 01:56 You know, we have got to get rid of the giant spawn and Joshua
  • 01:59 and Caleb had no problem.
  • 02:01 It's like, yeah, we can take those giants, but the other
  • 02:02 people are like they're so big, we can't do that.
  • 02:04 Kirsten: Right, and people give God a bad rap in this as
  • 02:07 like, "Oh my gosh, doesn't God love people?
  • 02:09 Like why wipe out-- that's such a horrible thing."
  • 02:12 Well, it is horrible if the genetic DNA of humanity
  • 02:15 is being wiped out.
  • 02:17 That's worth going in and taking the land and wiping it out.
  • 02:20 Joshua Colson: Exactly, God didn't want the genetic
  • 02:22 disposition to be in the blood, but he also didn't want this sin
  • 02:25 disposition to be in the blood.
  • 02:26 He wanted that wiped out so that that sin would not pollute the
  • 02:29 bloodline of Messiah and he actually gave them
  • 02:32 a good period of time.
  • 02:33 He gave-- He told Abraham, "I've given them 400 years.
  • 02:36 400 years to the Canaanites to do what was right."
  • 02:37 And after 400 years they still didn't do it.
  • 02:39 Caleb: That's right.
  • 02:41 David: This story comes to life now
  • 02:42 in our dramatic reenactment.
  • 02:43 Let's go there now.
  • 02:48 Joshua: Despite the reports of naysayers.
  • 02:50 Caleb and I had seen with our own eyes, the rich,
  • 02:53 bountiful land of Canaan.
  • 02:56 The Lord's anger kindles against those who've questioned.
  • 03:00 Those who murmur of giants and walled cities
  • 03:04 in our Promised Land.
  • 03:06 My efforts to convince them remain a daunting task,
  • 03:09 even within the confines of my own tent.
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  • 03:23 Joshua: Thank you for your help.
  • 03:24 Caleb will oversee the remainder.
  • 03:28 There is a murmur in the camp, again.
  • 03:32 They would like to stone me.
  • 03:35 male: I think that's a bit extreme.
  • 03:38 Joshua: Is it not enough that he delivered us from the hands
  • 03:40 of the pharaoh.
  • 03:42 That he parted the Red Sea.
  • 03:43 That we prevailed against the Amalekites.
  • 03:48 [sighs]
  • 03:51 Enormous vines, wheat, barley, fig trees, pomegranates,
  • 03:55 it's all there just waiting for us.
  • 03:58 And as the Lord told Moses, while we were still in Egypt,
  • 04:01 "The land flows with milk and honey."
  • 04:05 male: I can understand their concern.
  • 04:07 Joshua: No. No, the reports are misleading.
  • 04:12 For 40 days, Caleb and I witnessed
  • 04:14 the very same things that they did.
  • 04:17 Yes, we saw the walled cities.
  • 04:18 And yes, we saw the strength of the Anakim and the Canaanites.
  • 04:23 And all of the rest.
  • 04:25 But the arm of the Lord is so much stronger.
  • 04:30 We will devour them like bread possess the land.
  • 04:37 male: But what about the giants?
  • 04:41 Joshua: Listen to me.
  • 04:44 I pray you do not die here in the desert as all the others
  • 04:47 who have questioned the Lord.
  • 04:49 Do not long for the land of the past as others do.
  • 04:53 Egypt is behind us, the promise is before us, long for the land
  • 04:57 of your children.
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  • 05:05 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: The land of milk and honey was ever so close
  • 05:08 for the children of Israel.
  • 05:10 But despite the favorable reports of Joshua and Caleb,
  • 05:13 there were those who questioned the decision
  • 05:16 to possess the land.
  • 05:17 We came here to the valley of Eschol or Mamre,
  • 05:21 just south of Jerusalem,
  • 05:22 to walk upon one of the very sites that Joshua and Caleb
  • 05:26 first beheld in their mission as spies in the land of Canaan.
  • 05:33 It's known as the land of
  • 05:35 [speaking Hebrew]
  • 05:37 in Hebrew the land of milk and honey.
  • 05:40 Of course, there's more than just milk and honey--
  • 05:43 all kinds of fruits.
  • 05:45 I think that the milk and honey language was popularized because
  • 05:49 if there's milk, there's animals that are producing it, and if
  • 05:52 animals are producing it, the land is verdant, it's green.
  • 05:56 And if there's honey it means there's bees,
  • 05:58 there's pollination, there's flowers.
  • 06:01 It speaks of a land that's alive.
  • 06:04 With milk, with honey, with grape, pomegranate,
  • 06:07 fig, and other fruits of the earth as well.
  • 06:12 I look at these fruits of the earth as soda machines, you know
  • 06:15 it's a hot day and you just grab some of this and you drink,
  • 06:20 and it is so very delightful.
  • 06:23 If you can just think of a primitive person, we're told
  • 06:26 Adam and Eve were in a garden.
  • 06:29 And the fruit was there for the picking.
  • 06:31 Sin made its entrance on the stage of the drama.
  • 06:34 They were kicked out and told they were going to eat out a
  • 06:37 living, they were going to eek it out with the sweat
  • 06:40 of their brow.
  • 06:41 Here you're walking down the street and you're picking the
  • 06:43 fruits and you're getting the delights.
  • 06:48 It's no wonder that people would compete
  • 06:51 for this part of the world
  • 06:53 [speaking Hebrew]
  • 06:54 here at the southwestern part of the fertile crescent.
  • 06:58 You might recall as Bene Israel
  • 07:01 made their way out of Egypt and finally to a place
  • 07:03 Kadesh Barnea -- that Joshua, well Moses actually,
  • 07:07 dispatched spies, Joshua was one,
  • 07:09 and they came to the land, and they came here, Mamre.
  • 07:13 Actually, they explored the width, the heighth, and they
  • 07:16 came back with the fruits of the land.
  • 07:20 And, of course, the fruits were exotic to people that were slave
  • 07:24 stock that didn't know these kind of luxuries,
  • 07:26 and they're told that these big fruits are here.
  • 07:30 They're also told something else,
  • 07:32 and that is there's trouble in River City.
  • 07:36 Not only were the fruits big, but so were the people
  • 07:39 that consumed them.
  • 07:42 I want to get to the report, and I'll get to that in a minute,
  • 07:44 and it's important by the way, because the people turned back.
  • 07:48 And the fact that they turned back from the challenge, that
  • 07:53 negated their being able to get the benefits of the real estate.
  • 07:58 And I wonder, if you'll just permit an application, could it
  • 08:01 be that God has all kinds of fruits and blessings for you.
  • 08:06 Not just for you, but in you, to be produced out of you.
  • 08:10 I mentioned that, because in the New Testament context,
  • 08:13 we're told to bear fruit.
  • 08:14 We're construed as an effect-- the earth and God pours his
  • 08:18 Ruach HaKodesh into our Earth
  • 08:20 and there's an outgrowth as a result of that we water
  • 08:25 the seed of faith that's planted and then it grows
  • 08:28 into something and bears fruit.
  • 08:30 Well, if you go into the Old Testament, there's the land,
  • 08:33 there's different words for land:
  • 08:35 there's eretz which is land,
  • 08:36 there's aphar which is dust,
  • 08:37 there's adamah speaking of the soil.
  • 08:41 In fact, Adam, man, Adam came from Adamah from the soil.
  • 08:46 But other things come from the soil as well,
  • 08:48 other forms of life.
  • 08:50 There's the land of promise, the Promised Land,
  • 08:53 and it bore special fruits.
  • 08:56 Are there people that bear fruit?
  • 08:57 I mean there's a fruitful existence if we have God
  • 09:00 in our life and the question is: are you
  • 09:02 bearing and cultivating fruit?
  • 09:04 It's a reasonable question.
  • 09:06 We're going to look how we can be more than a conqueror
  • 09:08 and learn to bear fruit and more.
  • 09:11 But before we get to that we have to go through the valley of
  • 09:15 despair and commenting on those that got close, they got to it,
  • 09:21 but they never got into it.
  • 09:24 People say, "How long did it take the children of Israel to
  • 09:25 get to Canaan?"
  • 09:27 People say 40 years-- no, it took them 40 years
  • 09:30 to get into it.
  • 09:31 Actually, they were there at the second year,
  • 09:34 they left Mizraim, Egypt, they went to Sinai,
  • 09:37 they grouped there, built the mishkan,
  • 09:39 the more portable worship facility, and they went up north
  • 09:42 to the southern border, they sent dispatches in to do what
  • 09:47 was supposed to be a reconnaissance mission.
  • 09:50 They went in there for reconnaissance
  • 09:52 to gather information.
  • 09:54 But what was supposed to be a reconnaissance mission, turned
  • 09:58 into a feasibility study.
  • 10:00 It wasn't supposed to be that.
  • 10:03 But subsequent to that the whole thing spiraled out of control,
  • 10:08 and so all there was in front of them was a promise of a better
  • 10:11 existence, but it's a life they never, ever entered.
  • 10:16 They just died en route.
  • 10:19 We'll consider the genesis of the problem in the heart of man.
  • 10:24 God wants us to be more than a conqueror.
  • 10:26 He wants us to be a conqueror, not the conquered.
  • 10:29 He wants us to be a victor, not a victim.
  • 10:32 He wants us to be the head and not the tail.
  • 10:35 It doesn't always work out that way.
  • 10:39 It's been said that a wise person learns from their
  • 10:41 mistakes, well in this case, let us learn from somebody else's.
  • 10:46 As we look more deeply into the story of Joshua and the spies
  • 10:50 and learn about being more than a conqueror.
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  • 11:03 Joshua Colson: Jeff gets me so amped up in these points
  • 11:05 because he's so right, it's what's in a man's heart that
  • 11:09 determines his actions.
  • 11:11 Too often in life, we put ourselves in environments that
  • 11:14 go against what we believe in completely and we say it's not
  • 11:16 going to affect us.
  • 11:18 But look at the Israelites: they had been in Egypt too long.
  • 11:21 They saw God come in with the ten plagues, rescue them out,
  • 11:25 all of this amazing stuff didn't matter in the moment, because
  • 11:29 when the ten spies came back with a bad report.
  • 11:32 Instead of choosing to listen to the good report, they chose to
  • 11:35 listen to what was bad and evil and not trust God.
  • 11:38 And in fact, they were going to kill Moses and Aaron,
  • 11:41 and stone Joshua and Caleb, and God literally jumped in,
  • 11:44 and he flipped the script on them.
  • 11:45 Caleb: It's sad but true, they were ready to stone them
  • 11:48 all and God intervenes, and then God's like,
  • 11:51 "I'm going to wipe them all out.
  • 11:52 Moses, stand back and let me take care of them."
  • 11:54 But Moses, "Please Lord, don't wipe them out.
  • 11:57 For your namesake, don't wipe them out."
  • 12:00 And God intervenes, he's like, "Okay, I won't wipe them all
  • 12:04 out, but all the adults, the parents 20 years old and over,
  • 12:08 they can't go into the Promised Land.
  • 12:10 They're going to wander for 40 years in the wilderness
  • 12:13 and only their children will go into the land of promise.
  • 12:16 And it's sad that Joshua and Caleb, they are the oldest
  • 12:19 that end up going.
  • 12:21 They are the elders, the oldest of all the twelve tribes that
  • 12:23 end up going into the Promised Land and fulfilling
  • 12:26 the promises of God."
  • 12:29 Joshua Colson: Rebellion is a big deal with God.
  • 12:31 It may not seem like a big deal to you, but he takes it very
  • 12:33 seriously, and I'll get to that in a second.
  • 12:35 But you look at what happens with the Israelites and the next
  • 12:38 few steps they take are marked with rebellion.
  • 12:40 The second he says they're not going to go into the land,
  • 12:42 what do they do?
  • 12:44 They do what anybody says whenever you say,
  • 12:45 "There's a bo--" they rush the border, right?
  • 12:48 And what happens, God has them smitten and written out.
  • 12:51 And so, then they get a Levite going on right there.
  • 12:53 Caleb: It's Korah with his rebellion, yeah.
  • 12:55 Joshua Colson: And so, what happens next?
  • 12:57 They're wiped out.
  • 12:58 And so again, they're like, "Well we got to get rid of
  • 12:59 Moses, we got to get rid of Aaron,
  • 13:01 this is this guy's fault."
  • 13:02 What happens? Plagues.
  • 13:04 You know, so every time this happens, God puts his hand out
  • 13:07 and says-- and goes, "No."
  • 13:08 Why?
  • 13:09 Because rebellion-- original sin-- when Lucifer looked and
  • 13:11 said, "No, I don't need God, look at me."
  • 13:13 God put a stop to it and that's why he will not allow rebellion
  • 13:17 to continue on.
  • 13:18 Caleb: And this time of wandering in the wilderness is
  • 13:20 very important, it's very symbolic.
  • 13:22 The 40 years.
  • 13:24 We know that the wilderness represents this time of trial
  • 13:27 and testing and lack and your time in the wilderness will
  • 13:31 either produce fruit in you or it will produce death.
  • 13:34 And you see that Moses himself went into the wilderness
  • 13:37 for 40 years and God trained him as a shepherd to shepherd
  • 13:43 an entire nation of people.
  • 13:45 Yeshua went into the wilderness for 40 days and he was tempted
  • 13:48 by Satan himself.
  • 13:50 He overcame every temptation, and that fruit was produced, and
  • 13:54 he became worthy to go out and start preaching the news of the
  • 13:59 kingdom of heaven is at hand.
  • 14:01 You see Paul himself; he went into the wilderness for over
  • 14:03 three years after he came to know Yeshua because it was
  • 14:06 that time that he had to seek God and hear from
  • 14:10 the Holy Spirit himself.
  • 14:11 To get all that legalism and the law out of him, till he was
  • 14:13 ready to go preach the grace that came
  • 14:17 by the blood of Yeshua.
  • 14:18 So, we want to be faithful during that time of testing,
  • 14:23 during that time of trial.
  • 14:25 You may be in that time of the wilderness right now
  • 14:27 in your life, and you're like, "How long God?"
  • 14:28 You know, you're ready to get out.
  • 14:30 But be faithful during that time, because you will reach the
  • 14:34 Promised Land eventually.
  • 14:36 Joshua Colson: And remember that reaching the Promised Land
  • 14:37 is not the only story, it's who you become in that process.
  • 14:39 And that's why you have to stick to it.
  • 14:41 Let's go back to Jeff and see what happens next in the story.
  • 14:45 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Earlier we saw pomegranate and grape, but
  • 14:48 there's all kinds of fruits here in the holy land.
  • 14:51 Figs, by the way, as in these, are noteworthy.
  • 14:54 They're referred to in the Bible in the older testament, security
  • 14:57 is everyone dwelling under his fig tree.
  • 15:00 Interestingly and similarly, in the newer testament in the
  • 15:04 Johannine gospel chapter two, Jesus speaks of a man and says,
  • 15:08 "I saw you under the fig tree."
  • 15:11 Again, the land is so much associated with fruits.
  • 15:15 But the story here, with these fruits is associated
  • 15:19 with a bad news story.
  • 15:22 And I don't like to tell it, but it's in the book.
  • 15:25 And there's a window here into pathology, into being toxic,
  • 15:31 learning how things can go horribly wrong in life.
  • 15:37 I want to pick up in the book of Bemidbar
  • 15:39 in the wilderness, we know it as Numbers.
  • 15:41 In the 13th chapter we're told that the spies
  • 15:46 who had come into this area.
  • 15:49 [speaking Hebrew]
  • 15:51 to do a reconnaissance mission.
  • 15:54 That is to say they're supposed to gather information.
  • 15:57 If an army is coming this way, they need to know where there's
  • 16:00 orchards, water supply, major cities, populations, etcetera.
  • 16:05 They need a general idea of where they're going.
  • 16:08 They came here to do reconnaissance,
  • 16:11 but they did more than that.
  • 16:13 They came here on a reconnaissance mission;
  • 16:16 they returned with a feasibility study.
  • 16:20 They told Moshe Rabbeinu, Moses, and others,
  • 16:23 "Listen, yeah the land is this and that, but we can't do it.
  • 16:28 Those people are just way too big."
  • 16:31 It's a bad story, in chapter 13, verse 31 we're told of a
  • 16:36 [speaking Hebrew]
  • 16:41 the men that went up, that is the spies, came up and said, and
  • 16:45 I quote,
  • 16:46 [speaking Hebrew]
  • 16:50 "We are not able to go up against this people."
  • 16:55 We can't do it.
  • 16:59 They go on to say,
  • 17:00 [speaking Hebrew]
  • 17:03 "Because they are stronger than we."
  • 17:09 They feared.
  • 17:10 These were people who not long before were slave stock
  • 17:13 in the land of Egypt.
  • 17:15 And they left Egypt.
  • 17:17 God was their soldier-- the waters parted, they walked
  • 17:20 through, it wasn't, as a result, their agency.
  • 17:23 They were just swept up in the circumstances
  • 17:25 beyond their control.
  • 17:27 But now they're facing a situation where they have to
  • 17:29 bear arms for a specific purpose, but they
  • 17:34 just wince away from doing so.
  • 17:37 They are fearful, they lack confidence.
  • 17:40 Confides, with faith.
  • 17:43 They go on to report that the people are just so big.
  • 17:48 And if that's not bad enough, they're skilled in war and we're
  • 17:51 novices and if that's not bad enough, they have military
  • 17:55 advantage behind ramparts, behind walls and walled cities.
  • 18:00 It didn't look good, and when they put it all together,
  • 18:03 they said, "It can't be done."
  • 18:07 We're told by the way in 32, they go on to say,
  • 18:10 [speaking Hebrew]
  • 18:14 he goes on to say, "They spread an evil report."
  • 18:21 An evil report.
  • 18:22 The rabbis, I should say, in looking at that, they go beyond
  • 18:26 an evil report and say that they invented a lie.
  • 18:33 They invented a lie.
  • 18:35 And when you live with that lie
  • 18:40 it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
  • 18:43 They go on to exaggerate and say, "Listen, they're so big
  • 18:46 and we're like grasshoppers."
  • 18:48 They just-- they spiral out of control.
  • 18:50 We can't do it.
  • 18:52 Well, the last I checked, they couldn't get out of Egypt
  • 18:54 either, but guess what: there was heaven's help
  • 18:57 for life's vexing problems.
  • 19:00 Because God who calls you, can lead you successfully
  • 19:03 into the future, and he did just that then.
  • 19:05 But oh my did they forget.
  • 19:08 Now I don't want to talk about them, I want to talk about you,
  • 19:11 and I want to talk about me.
  • 19:12 That is to say because these aren't the only ones that turn
  • 19:16 away from challenges.
  • 19:19 And when you turn away from it, by the way, you can get so close
  • 19:22 to the Promised Land, but never get into it.
  • 19:25 And I wonder, how many people are watching this and hearing me
  • 19:30 that keep going around the same mountain, that is to say, you
  • 19:33 kind of believe in God, you have religious conviction, but it
  • 19:35 seems that success in life is 13 inches away and you only have a
  • 19:39 12-inch reach-- for some reason, you just can't quite get to it.
  • 19:44 Fear prompts people to turn back, I know that I live that.
  • 19:49 It's one the reasons why it took me till 30 to get married,
  • 19:51 because I was afraid to ask, I was afraid I'd get rejected.
  • 19:55 I was afraid that they would say no, so I lived alone.
  • 19:58 In other words, fear became a prison.
  • 20:01 It was the same thing with school, you know, I wound up
  • 20:03 becoming a college professor, but interestingly it took me
  • 20:05 till 26 or so to get into college.
  • 20:08 Why is that: because I did so poorly in high school.
  • 20:10 Why is that: because of fear.
  • 20:13 I had to learn to say no to fear and yes to a good God
  • 20:17 and a good future.
  • 20:18 And I know that from firsthand experience that if you hold
  • 20:22 tight to fear, it ruins your life.
  • 20:25 We could be so much further along in life.
  • 20:28 I have 30 years under my belt as a college professor, among other
  • 20:32 things, worked a lot of young people and I would tell them
  • 20:35 all, "Shoot for the moon, lift up your eyes, dream big.
  • 20:39 Shoot for the moon, and even if you miss the mark, you'll land
  • 20:43 somewhere among the stars."
  • 20:45 And be so much better off in life than had you dared
  • 20:48 not to dream in the first place.
  • 20:51 I believe in dream stuff, especially if I believe that
  • 20:55 we're a redeemed people.
  • 20:57 That if Jesus lives in us, and the Holy Spirit guides us,
  • 21:02 then we are people with a future.
  • 21:05 Would that we dared to dream.
  • 21:07 Would that we didn't turn back, but that we moved forward.
  • 21:11 In the process of so doing, we learned what it is to be more
  • 21:16 than a conqueror.
  • 21:20 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: For the Israeli Defense Forces, the
  • 21:22 saying "more than conquerors" is more than a slogan.
  • 21:27 My good friend, Chaim Malespin, who serves with the
  • 21:30 Israeli Defense Forces is going to give us a window into
  • 21:33 how the Israeli army is taught to go forth
  • 21:36 and slay the giants.
  • 21:39 Sarge, when I look in the Bible, these spies are dispatched to go
  • 21:43 into the land, and those people are so big,
  • 21:45 their fortifications are so high.
  • 21:47 They're afraid, there are some that have confidence.
  • 21:51 What do you they teach you in the Israeli Defense Forces about
  • 21:54 looking beyond the current malaise and believing
  • 21:57 for a successful outcome?
  • 21:59 Chaim Malespin: Well, I'll give you a story my commander
  • 22:01 gave me.
  • 22:02 Commanding officer, he calls everyone in one day, and he
  • 22:04 says, "Hey, you guys, you have any complaints?"
  • 22:06 One of the soldiers came and he said our thermal vision, we have
  • 22:09 this little refrigerator--
  • 22:10 you know thermal vision so you can see a heat imprint.
  • 22:12 And he said, "Sometimes I can't see the heat imprint properly,
  • 22:15 I don't want to go out to war."
  • 22:17 And he said, "Let me tell you a story: in 1948, War of
  • 22:19 Independence, when Israel was reborn, well guess what?"
  • 22:22 He said, "My grandfather went out and he fought
  • 22:24 with only a shovel.
  • 22:26 He believed in the cause that-- we're all here, in this Defense
  • 22:29 Force, we're here to defend the defenseless.
  • 22:31 We can't give up."
  • 22:32 And so sometimes you see the giants in the land, and there
  • 22:35 were giants in the time of Joshua.
  • 22:37 There are giants now.
  • 22:38 Some of those giants could even be within you, but if you know
  • 22:40 how to say I am going to look beyond that, I am going look
  • 22:43 towards the mission and tenacity to that mission.
  • 22:45 Again, one of our core competencies, our core values,
  • 22:49 the tenacity to the mission.
  • 22:50 It doesn't matter, it's one our slangs or our models, is this is
  • 22:55 what we have and with this we shall succeed.
  • 22:57 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Well, Sarge, the Israeli Defense
  • 22:59 Forces under Moses initially, they didn't have that
  • 23:03 disposition, it didn't work very well for them as a result.
  • 23:07 Chaim: No, and I know that the spies when they came back,
  • 23:09 because you mentioned, they brought a bad report and that
  • 23:11 delayed their success.
  • 23:14 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Have you seen bad reports in the Israeli
  • 23:15 Defense Forces, and have you seen people blow out because
  • 23:19 they just weren't made of the right stuff,
  • 23:20 they didn't have confidence.
  • 23:23 Chaim: It's true, some people say: this journey is
  • 23:25 just too hard for me.
  • 23:26 I know one guy they said okay, he had to drop and give
  • 23:29 a hundred pushups, you know.
  • 23:30 And at one point he just says, "I'm not doing this," you know.
  • 23:32 And in our elite unit, all you have to do is sign "I quit",
  • 23:35 you write "I quit" that's all, and you hand it in,
  • 23:37 and you can then go to the regular battalions.
  • 23:40 The regular company, and so they would always come to me and say,
  • 23:44 "Hey you look tired, would you like to just write those
  • 23:46 two words," and I would say absolutely not.
  • 23:49 Take that hamburger and french fries away from me.
  • 23:51 I will eat nasty army food.
  • 23:53 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: You're looking for that eye of the tiger.
  • 23:56 That vision and faith, correct?
  • 23:57 Chaim: That's correct.
  • 23:59 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Thanks, Sarge.
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  • 24:03 David: Chaim is a dear friend of this ministry; we consider
  • 24:05 him actually as our Jewish brother.
  • 24:08 We go on tour with him, he gets on our bus,
  • 24:10 and we hear wonderful insight from him.
  • 24:13 He had some really good self-control, being--
  • 24:16 Caleb: Discipline, man, he's disciplined.
  • 24:18 You got to be a soldier if you're di-- you know,
  • 24:20 disciplined in the soldier--
  • 24:21 Kristen: Have either of you served in the military?
  • 24:22 Joshua Colson: We haven't actually.
  • 24:24 Kristen: That's okay, you could have been IDF,
  • 24:27 you could've easy.
  • 24:28 Okay so I had a rumor, or heard a rumor:
  • 24:31 do you work out two times a day?
  • 24:34 Like to the gym?
  • 24:36 Joshua Colson: I have definitely spent many years
  • 24:38 doing two-a-days: working out in the morning
  • 24:39 and working out at night.
  • 24:42 When you have a goal in mind, discipline is the only thing
  • 24:45 that's going to see you through to that goal.
  • 24:46 Kristen: Okay, I am jumping in on you totally.
  • 24:49 You mentioned looking a certain way, all of you watching, you
  • 24:54 haven't stood up.
  • 24:56 I mean, I've got to say, you are a little Nephilim-ish.
  • 24:59 You don't have-- no, no in a good way!
  • 25:02 You don't have six fingers and six toes I hope,
  • 25:05 but I mean your stature, you--
  • 25:08 Caleb: He's 6'8".
  • 25:09 Kristen: Six-- you are not!
  • 25:11 Caleb: Six foot eight, I'm 6'6, yes.
  • 25:12 Kristen: Wow!
  • 25:14 Sorry, I don't mean to downplay your physical stature.
  • 25:16 Joshua Colson: He was skinny, and I had a thicker frame,
  • 25:17 you know we are tall.
  • 25:20 I like to believe that God wanted the giants to have a run
  • 25:22 for their money, at least with a good fight for us.
  • 25:25 But the point is, you're always going to have an obstacle in
  • 25:28 life, you're always going to face a giant in your life.
  • 25:30 There's always something you're going to come across that seems
  • 25:33 too big to be able to overcome and handle and that is when
  • 25:37 keeping your eye on the solution is so important.
  • 25:40 So often we get focused on the problem: How am I going to
  • 25:42 overcome this obstacle?
  • 25:44 We stare at it; we give it all of our authority and
  • 25:46 all of our power, and it defeats us every time.
  • 25:48 We give into worry and fear.
  • 25:50 What the Bible say in Luke, it says how many of you have ever
  • 25:52 added a second to your life by worrying about it.
  • 25:54 You haven't.
  • 25:56 So, our focus has to be in the author and finish for our faith,
  • 25:58 and when our focus is on the solution, he's going to guide us
  • 26:00 to it every single time.
  • 26:02 Kristen: That-- that's good.
  • 26:03 David: That makes me want to get back in the gym,
  • 26:05 like tonight.
  • 26:08 Kristen: Joshua just mentioned about not walking in
  • 26:10 fear and knowing that God has a plan, and I don't want you to
  • 26:15 walk in fear, we don't want to walk in fear here at the program
  • 26:19 that we aren't going to be able to make it another year, I mean
  • 26:22 finances in the world are tight.
  • 26:25 We are coming to you right now to say:
  • 26:27 we need your financial help.
  • 26:30 We hope that you will vote with your dollar, that you want what
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  • 26:38 that you're learning from it.
  • 26:40 And if you are, please, please, donate to keep this program on
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  • 26:46 David: I also mentioned earlier that Chaim Malespin gets
  • 26:48 on our bus when we are at the Sea of Galilei in Tiberias.
  • 26:52 He has wonderful insight, he's a brother you will love him.
  • 26:56 We ask you to join us or consider joining us on a tour to
  • 26:59 Israel, we go both in the fall and the spring.
  • 27:02 Pray about it. Join us.
  • 27:03 Guys--
  • 27:05 Kristen: We have to wrap it up.
  • 27:06 Joshua Colson: I want to go to Israel now that I've heard
  • 27:08 that, I've been before, it's an incredible trip.
  • 27:09 I want everyone to remember
  • 27:11 sha'alu shalom Yerushalayim,
  • 27:12 David: Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
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Episodes in this series

  1. At Sinai
  2. The Spy
  3. At the Jordan
  4. At Jericho
  5. At Ai
  6. The Gibeonites
  7. At Shiloh
  8. At the End

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