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Caption transcript for Joshua: “At the Jordan” (3/8)

• 00:01 ♪♪♪
• 00:03 male announcer: Welcome to "Our Jewish Roots" with
• 00:05 insightful Bible teaching from Israel with Dr. Jeffrey Seif.
• 00:09 This week, we see Israel undergoing a change of
• 00:12 leadership on "Joshua: More Than a Conqueror."
• 00:16 ♪♪♪
• 00:26 ♪♪♪
• 00:36 ♪♪♪
• 00:46 ♪♪♪
• 00:53 David Hart: Welcome to "Our Jewish Roots."
• 00:54 I'm David Hart.
• 00:56 Kirsten Hart: I'm Kirsten Hart.
• 00:57 Jeffrey Seif: I am Jeffrey Seif,
• 00:58 and we are in for something important.
• 01:01 Leadership, it's a biggie in today's world.
• 01:04 It was big in yesterday's world as well, yes?
• 01:06 Kirsten: It is and it's so important to know that we're not
• 01:09 the only ones sometimes that have to step
• 01:11 into someone else's shoes.
• 01:13 There is a lot on Joshua's shoulders.
• 01:15 Will he live up to what Moses did?
• 01:18 David: That's right.
• 01:19 We're gonna hear more about that story from Dr. Seif
• 01:21 on location in Israel.
• 01:22 But right now, let's see what it was like for Joshua
• 01:25 as he began his leadership.
• 01:30 male: Ever since we left Mount Sinai the priests have
• 01:32 played a vital role in the fabric of our people.
• 01:35 Adonai told Moses that all priests should come from the
• 01:39 tribe of Levi and they were to be given special duties
• 01:42 in the service of the tabernacle.
• 01:44 Now that their leader has passed away, they wonder
• 01:47 to whom should they now give ear.
• 01:55 male: So now that Moses is no more,
• 01:59 Adonai speaks to you directly.
• 02:03 Joshua: Yes.
• 02:07 male: And how do you know the voice that you hear
• 02:09 is that of Adonai?
• 02:12 Joshua: I just know.
• 02:16 male: Joshua, we believe you and take comfort
• 02:22 in knowing that you are certain.
• 02:26 It took Moses 40 years to lead us here.
• 02:29 Now that we are so close to our land of promise,
• 02:32 we must know that Adonai is directing our steps into it
• 02:39 and, of course, then commanded by you.
• 02:45 Joshua: Moses is dead, but his message lives.
• 02:49 And the same God that speaks to him now speaks to me,
• 02:54 and I tremble when I hear his voice.
• 02:57 But he tells me to take courage.
• 03:00 male: What else has he told you?
• 03:02 Joshua: He told me every piece of land upon which I step
• 03:04 is claimed for me and all the children of Israel will possess
• 03:10 the land from Euphrates to the great sea,
• 03:13 but today we cross the Jordan.
• 03:18 male: And you have called upon me because?
• 03:22 Joshua: The priests will lead the people across the Jordan,
• 03:25 bearing the ark, but before you cross to the other side,
• 03:29 stand still in the water and the water will be cut off.
• 03:33 The people will cross into the Promised Land on dry ground.
• 03:40 male: The very banks of the Jordan are overflowing.
• 03:43 It's the season of rain.
• 03:45 Joshua: Never mind.
• 03:46 The Lord stopped the waters of the Red Sea.
• 03:49 He will stop the waters of the Jordan.
• 03:52 male: But that was 40 years ago.
• 03:57 Joshua: Stand still. Let him do it again.
• 04:02 ♪♪♪
• 04:10 male: We shall.
• 04:16 Jeffrey: This is the Jordan River.
• 04:18 Perhaps it's not the portion of the river in the north that many
• 04:21 pilgrims have visited but it's actually the area closer to
• 04:25 Jericho where it's believed the children of Israel crossed over
• 04:28 into the Promised Land back under Joshua's direction.
• 04:33 Its waters are muddy now as they must have been 3400 years ago,
• 04:37 even overflowing the banks of the river in this,
• 04:41 the rainy season.
• 04:43 Jeffrey: It's called the Yarden, the Jordan.
• 04:47 I'm referencing this body of water right here.
• 04:51 It's not all that formidable, impassable.
• 04:54 There was already technology to dam up rivers so armies could
• 04:57 cross but, really, people needed to see a miracle and I mention
• 05:02 that because at the advent of Moshe Rabbeinu's ministry,
• 05:06 at the advent of his, there was a miracle with the parting
• 05:09 of the sea.
• 05:11 Granted there, there was pressure with an army pressing
• 05:13 behind and it was dramatic, and this isn't quite the Red Sea,
• 05:17 but the Jordan is--it's here and it's interesting that
• 05:23 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 05:26 a great miracle happens: the same sort of thing,
• 05:29 the parting of the water.
• 05:31 As it happened with Moses, it happens with Joshua.
• 05:35 And that has a way of certifying Joshua's ministry.
• 05:40 I love teaching the Bible.
• 05:42 Every minister does.
• 05:44 But I love doing it from the places themselves,
• 05:45 and we're really at the place of the crossing.
• 05:49 Very famous site here.
• 05:51 This is the Yarden, the Jordan.
• 05:53 It's 156 miles of river. Starts up right around Tel Dan.
• 05:58 In fact, Jordan is named after Dan, one of the tribes.
• 06:02 There's a site in the north.
• 06:04 The water there makes its way into Kinneret,
• 06:06 into the Sea of Galilee, Sea of Tiberias
• 06:09 known as by the Latin, and then it goes
• 06:11 down this stretch, right to the Dead Sea.
• 06:14 The Jordan River.
• 06:16 In fact, the country right behind me and I could throw a
• 06:19 rock from here and it would hit Jordanian territory, even Jordan
• 06:25 the country is named after, and here, this part, we're in Israel
• 06:30 but it's the West Bank, a Palestinian territory
• 06:33 under their control at this juncture.
• 06:35 It's the West Bank of what?
• 06:37 The Jordan River.
• 06:38 This place plays a part in history today as much as
• 06:44 yesterday, but principally, we're interested in yesterday's
• 06:48 world, and for that, I use biblical literature
• 06:51 as the primary guidebook.
• 06:54 I would imagine Joshua-- well, I know.
• 06:57 I don't need to imagine.
• 06:59 I know he was nervous about it.
• 07:01 We're told in the Torah that before Moses finishes running
• 07:05 his course, Joshua is propped up formally and fully,
• 07:09 and I wouldn't call him an untested leader.
• 07:12 He's been in battle in other places as well, but the point is
• 07:15 now he's the man.
• 07:18 And people were wondering if he has what it takes and he was
• 07:22 wondering himself if he had what it took and I mention that.
• 07:26 You say, "Jeffrey, how do you know?
• 07:28 You didn't live back then, and even if you did, how do you
• 07:30 climb into his world?"
• 07:32 Well, I know the testimony that's left in Scripture and if
• 07:34 you look in Joshua chapter 1, and I wanna hear from the text
• 07:39 that bears his name, we're told.
• 07:42 It's very stark, it's very direct.
• 07:44 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 07:47 "Moses my servant is dead.
• 07:53 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 07:57 Now therefore arise and go over this Jordan.
• 08:04 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 08:07 You, and all of this people,
• 08:09 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 08:12 even to the place that I've given to them
• 08:15 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 08:17 the sons of Israel."
• 08:19 Get up and go.
• 08:20 After saying that, he notes the boundaries of the land
• 08:24 and you look in verse 4.
• 08:26 In verse 3 he says, "I've given you this land to tread on.
• 08:29 It's going to be yours," he says,
• 08:31 "from the wilderness to the Lebanon."
• 08:34 He goes to the land of Euphrates and the land of the Hittites.
• 08:37 There's a very broad border.
• 08:40 The borders were never realized fully, by the way, in antiquity.
• 08:44 It rates some kind of fulfillment into the future.
• 08:47 It's not what Israel is today.
• 08:50 He goes on to say and it's interesting,
• 08:52 to speak to the fear.
• 08:54 He says in verse 5 to assure this man who is now the
• 08:58 commander in chief, he says, "No man will be able to stand
• 09:03 before you," in verse 5, and then,
• 09:06 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 09:11 "As I was with Moses," he says, "so I will be with you.
• 09:15 I will not fail you or forsake you."
• 09:19 And it's interesting, he closes up, in verse 6 he says
• 09:23 chazak, that is, "Be strong."
• 09:27 And then he closes in verse 7.
• 09:30 The point--it's not the end of the chapter, by any stretch:
• 09:32 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 09:36 "Be strong and very courageous."
• 09:42 I think it takes courage to move forward in life.
• 09:48 We're looking at Joshua, more than a conqueror.
• 09:52 To conquer, it takes courage and I've said before in other
• 09:57 context, if the devil has a favorite tool in his toolbox I
• 10:02 think it's discouragement, that is to suck courage out.
• 10:07 By way of contra-distinction, biblical literature encourages.
• 10:11 That is to say, infuses with courage because it takes that
• 10:15 in order to move forward in life.
• 10:18 And I believe personally that it's Yeshua, it's Jesus,
• 10:23 who gives us a kind of courage to face the future.
• 10:28 It seems to me personally that too many people live
• 10:30 in the past.
• 10:32 If you're driving a car and it's raining and the road is swerving
• 10:37 and there's traffic, you don't wanna spend an inordinate amount
• 10:41 of energy looking in the rear view mirror and the side mirrors
• 10:43 to see where you've been and what's behind you.
• 10:46 You need the better part of your energy looking forward.
• 10:49 So many people are shackled by the sins of the past.
• 10:52 It's the grace of God that gives us a reset button that we can be
• 10:55 forgiven of the past so that all of our energies
• 10:59 can look into the future.
• 11:01 And then we have the good Lord who enables us to get
• 11:03 into the future.
• 11:05 We'll run into the angel of the Lord, a character who presents
• 11:08 a little bit in the text to Joshua who tends to fret
• 11:13 and the angel of the Lord says, "Look, you know, I'm here,
• 11:16 the captain of the Lord of hosts.
• 11:19 I'm gonna be with you."
• 11:20 I think it's fascinating, by the way, in the Bible there's
• 11:23 the term "the Lord of hosts, Adonai Tsevaot."
• 11:26 Famous expression: "Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh Adonai Tsevaot."
• 11:29 Holy, holy, holy is the Lord of hosts.
• 11:31 That is, the Lord of the armies.
• 11:33 And I don't mean that in a military sense as much
• 11:35 as a spiritual sense.
• 11:37 You know, when Yeshua was on the cross he said, "I could pray
• 11:39 down legions of angels to turn this situation around,"
• 11:43 but that wasn't the plan.
• 11:45 It's good to know, speaking of plan, that we can get heaven's
• 11:48 help for earthly dilemmas.
• 11:51 The good Lord loves us, and like Joshua, he wants us
• 11:55 to be more than a conqueror.
• 11:58 ♪♪♪
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• 13:10 David: One of the places we take our pilgrims on our tour
• 13:13 is the Jordan River.
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• 13:24 People have asked us on tour when we stop there,
• 13:26 "I've been baptized before.
• 13:29 Is it okay to do it again?"
• 13:30 And our response to them is yes.
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• 13:35 That's what I think when we are baptized again
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• 13:56 David: Dr. Seif is teaching at location right now
• 13:59 at the Jordan River.
• 14:00 Let's go there.
• 14:03 Jeffrey: In Joshua chapter 3, verse 1, we're told that Joshua
• 14:07 came to the Jordan early in the morning.
• 14:10 It's time for the crossing, and he went after it.
• 14:13 There's a Talmudic saying that the righteous
• 14:15 get after it early.
• 14:17 That is to say, they just get on the move.
• 14:20 They don't linger, they don't meander, they just get right
• 14:22 to it at the break of day, and there's a good point
• 14:25 in all of that.
• 14:27 Even the word immediately is used 42 times in the Gospel
• 14:30 of Mark in the Greek to note that Jesus just
• 14:33 got after it immediately.
• 14:35 It's time to do God's work.
• 14:36 Let's get on to it, you know, before our head starts spinning
• 14:39 and the devil talks us out of it.
• 14:41 You know, fear will do that.
• 14:42 In any case, I know that Joshua had a certain fearful proclivity
• 14:46 and he had to put that behind him to get after it,
• 14:49 and he gets up in the morning and he does it.
• 14:51 He goes for it.
• 14:53 The reason why I know that he had a fearful proclivity
• 14:54 is because over, and again, he's encouraged,
• 14:56 "Fear not, fear not, fear not."
• 14:59 And if he's told that over and again, that means he had it.
• 15:02 And there's a point there.
• 15:03 If Joshua can be fearful and still be more than a conqueror,
• 15:06 then even that fear resides within us isn't a deal killer
• 15:09 for us being more than a conqueror.
• 15:11 We just have to listen to the faith, not to the feelings.
• 15:14 And here, as noted, Joshua does just that.
• 15:18 I love a passage in chapter 3, verse 5, where Joshua says
• 15:22 to the people, "Sanctify yourselves."
• 15:26 He says to do that "for tomorrow the Lord
• 15:28 will do wonders among you."
• 15:31 The word in the Hebrew, kadosh, you know,
• 15:33 to make yourself holy, to set yourself apart,
• 15:37 in order to see God do something through you, something to you,
• 15:41 for you, and through you.
• 15:43 Today, churches, I get it, you know, we wanna have different
• 15:47 programs to attract more and more people but people really
• 15:50 need to experience God at work in their life, a saving hand
• 15:53 from heaven, and for that there is, "Sanctify here," he says,
• 15:58 and then he goes on to say in verse 7, inasmuch as he said,
• 16:01 "Sanctify" before, then he says, "This day will I begin
• 16:05 to magnify you in the sight of all Israel."
• 16:10 Actually, it's the Lord talking to Joshua.
• 16:13 You know, Joshua was ordained and--but there needed to be
• 16:17 something miraculous, heaven's help,
• 16:19 in order for him to be elevated.
• 16:22 I mention this and I affirm this and that is, many in ministry
• 16:25 today, leaders, we get degrees.
• 16:28 I have a doctorate.
• 16:29 I've been a professor for years and I'm all about helping to
• 16:32 prepare people to learn the Scriptures and be a minister.
• 16:35 But more than academic pedigree, for someone really to be
• 16:39 a leader, there has to be something of the divine,
• 16:42 the hand of God on their life somehow, and that has to be
• 16:46 manifest to others that they're gonna be inclined to follow.
• 16:51 And I mention that here because the crossing of the Jordan, they
• 16:56 could have just built some kind of embankment downstream and
• 16:59 closed it off and marched, but they needed to see that there
• 17:04 was heaven's help on the other side of the river.
• 17:07 I mention that.
• 17:09 If you look at those soldiers, the numbering of them is over
• 17:11 600,000 and the various cities that they went into,
• 17:17 in the city of Canaan, in the land of Canaan,
• 17:20 the first city was Jericho, these walled cities,
• 17:23 they were small towns.
• 17:24 They weren't enormous metroplexes.
• 17:26 An enormous army could overcome them but inasmuch as you wanted
• 17:30 to see some kind of miracle here at the Jordan, similarly,
• 17:34 according to the text, when they made their way to the first city
• 17:38 and we'll get to this in another program, the walls came down.
• 17:41 That is to say, there's a miracle.
• 17:43 That is to say, there's the hand of God in the enterprise.
• 17:47 To be sure, those men still had to do what men do.
• 17:50 They had to get there and fight and work and take care
• 17:52 of their business.
• 17:54 Similarly, today, you know, men, we have to get up.
• 17:56 If we're gonna be more than a conqueror,
• 17:58 we've gotta take care of business.
• 18:00 A good work ethic, some courage, you know, chazak,
• 18:02 be strong.
• 18:04 I mean, that's necessary.
• 18:05 That's not gonna go away just because you have religion.
• 18:08 But what you want is to see God's hand at work in your
• 18:12 business when you're involved in the Lord's business.
• 18:15 And so, this journey here with Joshua is punctuated
• 18:19 by miracles on the front end.
• 18:21 And then he goes on to say, in verse 7, you know, that
• 18:25 "as I was with Moses, I'll be with you."
• 18:27 In other words, there was miracle with Moses at the
• 18:29 parting, there's a miracle here.
• 18:31 Same God, but it's a new, new, brand-new generation,
• 18:36 and there's new work for the new generation.
• 18:38 And what happens according to the text, the way this story
• 18:41 plays out, the priests then bearing the Aron Kodesh,
• 18:45 the ark of the covenant, they go down to the Jordan
• 18:49 and they dip their feet in the river and the river stops.
• 18:55 It is a miracle and we're told at the end of chapter 3 and
• 19:00 verse 17 that "all Israel passed over on dry ground,
• 19:08 until all the nation were passed clean over the Jordan."
• 19:13 Again, what's noted in the Bible is a miracle.
• 19:19 I believe in miracles.
• 19:21 As I've stressed, I think it takes miracles.
• 19:23 God does miracles to break forth his kingdom into the world,
• 19:28 to show that it is the Lord of hosts who's the advanced person
• 19:33 in the enterprise, that he's spreading his kingdom,
• 19:35 that his kingdom may come and that his will will be done
• 19:39 on earth as it is in heaven.
• 19:41 People are interested in eschatology, when is the world
• 19:44 gonna all come under God's domain,
• 19:46 and that'll happen in its own time.
• 19:48 But we need to claim it in our own world right now.
• 19:51 That is to say, within our respective spheres of influence.
• 19:56 I'm talking to men.
• 19:57 Not just men, women too, but principally, men,
• 20:00 for you to be that man of courage, for you to be the one,
• 20:05 the priest of the family.
• 20:07 For you to go first in the water, for you to get up early
• 20:09 in the morning and you let that faith drive you into the future
• 20:13 and see what'll happen.
• 20:15 You know, men, we want the best in life,
• 20:16 we feel we don't always get it.
• 20:18 We think we--we go for an ideal, we think we got a raw deal.
• 20:21 Get that faith at work and seek the Lord for what he would have
• 20:25 you to do and find the divine strategy he has for you to help
• 20:29 you to be the head and not the tail, to be a conqueror and not
• 20:33 conquered, to be a victor and not a victim, and you yourself
• 20:38 can experience with God how, like Joshua, you can be more
• 20:42 than a conqueror.
• 20:45 Jeffrey: For the Israeli Defense Forces, the saying,
• 20:48 "More than conquerors" is more than a slogan.
• 20:53 My good friend, Chaim Malespin, who serves with the Israeli
• 20:56 Defense Forces, is gonna give us a window into how the Israeli
• 20:59 Army is taught to go forth and slay the giants.
• 21:05 Jeffrey: Sarge, I got a question for you.
• 21:07 When I look at the Israeli Defense Forces back in the day
• 21:10 with Moses and after Moses with Joshua leading 'em in,
• 21:14 the religious go first.
• 21:16 You know, they're bearing the ark, they're putting their foot
• 21:17 in the water, there's miracle there.
• 21:19 How does the religious work along with
• 21:21 the Israeli Defense Forces today?
• 21:24 Chaim Malespin: Well, definitely when your life is
• 21:26 threatened, when you're about to go into enemy territory,
• 21:28 you wanna pray.
• 21:30 Even someone who's a complete atheist, doesn't believe in God
• 21:32 at all, this happened to me.
• 21:34 Someone came to me and said, "Chaim, would you say a prayer?
• 21:35 You and God have got this thing going.
• 21:37 Would you just say a prayer that I'll make it out alive?"
• 21:39 And you had this ten minutes to call your family,
• 21:41 you don't give away any secrets, of course.
• 21:43 And you just say, "Hey, I just wanna hear your voice,
• 21:44 you know."
• 21:46 Hang up, then the Rabbi will come out and he says, "Guys,
• 21:48 I wanna pray a prayer over you guys."
• 21:50 And many of these people, they say--I said,
• 21:52 "Only now, you wanna have a prayer?
• 21:54 What about other times?"
• 21:56 And they said, "I'm just curious today.
• 21:57 I'm extra curious about God today,"
• 21:59 'cause knowing that that evening we'd go into some
• 22:02 very heavy machine-gun fire and very dangerous missions.
• 22:05 Jeffrey: Yeah, there's something about being thrown up
• 22:07 to the edge of eternity that gives people a little religion
• 22:09 that wouldn't otherwise be there.
• 22:12 People talk about miracles and just the exploits
• 22:15 of the Israeli Defense Forces.
• 22:17 I know people talk about it in America.
• 22:19 Do Israeli soldiers talk about miracles and God being with them
• 22:23 when they're there in the thick of the battle?
• 22:25 Chaim: Well, absolutely.
• 22:27 You know, right around here, the sun stood still for Joshua
• 22:29 and even today, I mean, I was under heavy ammunition fire
• 22:32 and we were out and caught in the open.
• 22:35 That's the worst place to be.
• 22:37 Under fire in the southern part of Israel, and bullets, I could
• 22:39 hear them whizzing by my head, whoo, whoo, and I thought,
• 22:43 "For sure, I'm gonna die."
• 22:44 I ran and dove behind this thing.
• 22:46 And later, when I processed this and I returned fire, and we
• 22:50 secured the situation in the perimeter, set up a perimeter,
• 22:52 but I asked myself, "How did I survive?
• 22:54 If a machine gun is firing at your entire company and none of
• 22:57 us die, how is this possible?"
• 23:00 Jeffrey: Well, you're a hero, and I guess God is with you.
• 23:02 Thanks, Sarge.
• 23:04 Chaim: It's a pleasure.
• 23:06 ♪♪♪
• 23:12 ♪ Lord, I hear you weeping ♪
• 23:16 ♪ sorrow for what might have been ♪
• 23:20 ♪ Your hand outstretched upon the cross ♪
• 23:24 ♪ reaching for the sons of men ♪
• 23:28 ♪ Lord, I hear you praying for those who are so lost ♪
• 23:36 ♪ To simply ask, "Forgive me, Lord ♪
• 23:42 ♪ I understand the cost." ♪
• 23:48 ♪♪♪
• 23:58 ♪♪♪
• 24:08 ♪♪♪
• 24:15 ♪ Lord, I hear you weeping ♪
• 24:19 ♪ sorrow for what might have been ♪
• 24:23 ♪ Your hand outstretched upon the cross ♪
• 24:27 ♪ reaching for the souls of men ♪
• 24:31 ♪ Lord, I hear you praying for those who are so lost ♪
• 24:39 ♪ To simply ask, "Forgive me, Lord ♪
• 24:44 ♪ I understand the cost." ♪
• 24:50 ♪ Lord, I hear you praying for those who are so lost ♪
• 24:59 ♪ To simply ask, "Forgive me, Lord ♪
• 25:05 ♪ I understand the cost." ♪
• 25:14 ♪♪♪
• 25:24 ♪♪♪
• 25:34 ♪♪♪
• 25:38 David: Zola Levitt passed away in 2006, and we're so honored
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• 25:47 Speaking of legends, we're talking about
• 25:49 a legend today, aren't we?
• 25:50 Jeffrey: Oh, I thought you were pointing to me.
• 25:52 I'm no legend.
• 25:53 Kirsten: You also, you also.
• 25:55 Jeffrey: You're kind, yes, but Joshua, yes.
• 25:57 He left an indelible imprint, giving us insights into biblical
• 26:02 leadership in a wicked world.
• 26:04 He's a great example.
• 26:06 Kirsten: I love how he stepped from an apprentice into
• 26:08 the leadership role and God was guiding it at the Jordan River,
• 26:11 one of my favorite things is God kind of did a parallel miracle.
• 26:16 The Israelites came across on dry land with Moses,
• 26:19 and they also came across on dry land with Joshua.
• 26:21 Jeffrey: Yeah, you know, people compare:
• 26:22 "This is the new guy, Joshua.
• 26:24 Mo was much better."
• 26:26 You know, at the end of the day, we see the same God behind Moses
• 26:28 is the same God through Joshua.
• 26:30 And that's amply attested through miracles for both.
• 26:31 Kirsten: It is.
• 26:33 David: And it still happens today, comparison, you know?
• 26:35 Jeffrey: Yes, I think so.
• 26:36 God does supernatural with those whom he appoints, he anoints,
• 26:41 and we see that at play.
• 26:43 I think it's the same.
• 26:44 A lot of religion downplays miracle but miracle is amply
• 26:48 noted in biblical literature and I like to see what was written
• 26:51 on the pages still manifest throughout the ages.
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