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• 00:03 David Hart: Welcome to "Our Jewish Roots," with insightful Bible teaching from Israel
• 00:11 with Dr. Jeffrey Seif. This week, we start our new series, "Joshua:
• 00:14 More Than a Conqueror."
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• 00:54 David Hart: We are so glad you've joined us today on
• 00:56 "Our Jewish Roots."
• 00:57 I'm David Hart.
• 00:58 Kirsten Hart: I'm Kirsten Hart.
• 01:00 Jeffrey Seif: And I am Jeffrey Seif.
• 01:01 And I and we are glad that you are there, aren't we?
• 01:05 Kirsten Hart: We are.
• 01:06 Well, this is a great series that you are teaching us
• 01:10 about our Jewish roots, and we're talking about Joshua.
• 01:13 Jeffrey Seif: The Bible's teaching us, but I'd
• 01:14 like to look at the news through the eyes of the Jews,
• 01:17 particularly to look at the story of how to be more
• 01:20 than a conqueror.
• 01:21 So many people are conquered.
• 01:23 We gotta learn how to get the better of it all.
• 01:25 It's all in the book.
• 01:26 David Hart: And I think we're gonna learn in this series that
• 01:28 we need a lot more Joshuas in this world today.
• 01:31 Jeffrey Seif: Amen.
• 01:32 David Hart: Yes. Kirsten Hart: We do.
• 01:34 We'll hear more teaching from Dr. Jeffrey Seif
• 01:36 in Israel, but first let's go to our
• 01:38 dramatic reenactment, where Joshua discusses what happened
• 01:41 on Mount Sinai with Moses.
• 01:47 Joshua: What happened at Mount Sinai was a miracle, a personal
• 01:50 message to Moses inscribed in stone by the very finger
• 01:55 of Adonai.
• 01:57 Days later, it's left me wondering, still searching
• 02:00 for words to explain our journey on the mount.
• 02:10 Why did he choose me?
• 02:13 He could have chosen any of the elders.
• 02:16 Gershom, Eliezer.
• 02:22 There was this thick cloud that covered us.
• 02:25 For six days, nothing could be seen.
• 02:31 And all the more I wondered why he'd chosen me.
• 02:38 male: You speak of Mount Sinai.
• 02:39 Joshua: Yes.
• 02:43 male: Joshua, Moses thinks highly of you.
• 02:48 Did you ascend to the top of the mount with him?
• 02:51 Joshua: No.
• 02:53 On the seventh day, the glory of the Lord overcame us
• 02:58 like a magnificent ball of fire from heaven.
• 03:03 male: Yes, we saw it.
• 03:05 Joshua: The Lord beckoned Moses and he ascended the remainder
• 03:08 of the mount alone, right through those clouds.
• 03:13 Forty days.
• 03:15 Forty long days and nights before I would see him again,
• 03:20 carrying those stone tablets.
• 03:23 We descended the mount together and I heard what I thought were
• 03:27 sounds of war from the camp.
• 03:29 male: But it wasn't war.
• 03:31 Joshua: No, it was much worse than war.
• 03:36 People were carousing before this golden calf.
• 03:40 They were making sacrifices, and singing, and dancing.
• 03:44 It was an abomination, an absolute abomination.
• 03:49 male: And thousands died because of it.
• 03:52 Joshua: The Lord has had his vengeance.
• 04:00 The land of promise can still be ours if we are on his side,
• 04:06 despite the golden calf.
• 04:08 He told Moses that in the days to come he would send an angel
• 04:11 that would lead us to victory.
• 04:15 Write this down and make it very clear.
• 04:22 As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.
• 04:33 I know one day I will walk upon that land.
• 04:38 I just know it.
• 04:45 Jeffrey Seif: Joshua wanted it made perfectly clear he would
• 04:49 one day walk upon the land of promise, even though he knew
• 04:54 that going would be difficult.
• 04:56 Many grumbled and complained along the way, but what happened
• 05:00 atop Mount Sinai would prove to be significant in shaping
• 05:04 the initial leadership and the ultimate destiny
• 05:08 of the children of Israel.
• 05:10 The journey from Mizraim, from Egypt, to Eretz Kena'an,
• 05:16 the land of Canaan, it was a tough journey.
• 05:19 It's tough terrain here, as you can see, out in the wilderness.
• 05:25 Tough place.
• 05:26 It took tough people to carve out some space in this land.
• 05:32 Moshe Rabbenu, Moses, is foremost in the list.
• 05:36 He's well known because he spent 40 years out here
• 05:39 in the wilderness before he went back to Egypt to lead
• 05:43 the children of Israel out of Egypt.
• 05:46 But even as he led them out, according to the biblical text,
• 05:50 he wasn't alone in so doing as a leader.
• 05:56 I mention that because, though Moses gets all the attention
• 05:59 initially and rightly so as the principal leader, he had
• 06:04 an assistant.
• 06:06 His name was Joshua.
• 06:08 Interesting fellow to be sure.
• 06:11 His name was Hosea originally, but his name was changed
• 06:15 from a word for salvation to Yehoshua.
• 06:18 That is, God is salvation.
• 06:22 And he was going to learn that.
• 06:25 Interesting word in Hebrew.
• 06:26 In Greek, "salvation," sozo, means saved.
• 06:31 It means healed, be made whole, put back together again.
• 06:36 The word "yeshua" or "Joshua" in Hebrew, it means to heal.
• 06:42 It means to deliver.
• 06:44 It means to redeem, to save, and Joshua was all that.
• 06:50 And in so doing, he led Israel.
• 06:53 And he indeed was more than just a conqueror, though he was that
• 06:58 to be sure.
• 07:00 In the Jewish world, it's believed that all we ever needed
• 07:03 for biblical revelation was the book of--the books of Moses
• 07:08 and the book of Joshua.
• 07:09 That should've been the end of it.
• 07:11 If you look in the biblical text in the Torah, in the five books
• 07:14 of Moses, this land that's vowed safe to a people, and then
• 07:17 Joshua let 'em in, and that should've been the end of it.
• 07:20 They should have prospered there.
• 07:21 But it didn't quite go that way, but that's a story
• 07:25 for another day.
• 07:27 Our story here is to take a look at the book and find
• 07:30 out about this man who indeed was more than just a conqueror.
• 07:35 Of course, there's a book named after him.
• 07:39 I'm less interested in that at the outset as I am some
• 07:42 background information on him.
• 07:44 And for that, we begin in the book, Shemot in Hebrew,
• 07:48 or Exodus.
• 07:50 There's a story here where we're told that--and I want to look
• 07:55 in chapter 24 in the text, where we're told, as Moshe Rabbenu, as
• 08:02 Moses ascends Sinai out here in the wilderness, as he goes
• 08:08 up, we discover that he didn't go up alone.
• 08:12 I'm looking in chapter 24, verse 13.
• 08:15 And the numbers don't always sync up to the English Bible.
• 08:19 I'm reading here from the Masoretic text
• 08:21 out of the Hebrew.
• 08:23 We're told...
• 08:24 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 08:27 "And Moses rose up along with Joshua his minister."
• 08:34 It's interesting the way Jews translate the word for "Joshua"
• 08:37 as his minister, his attendant, his servant.
• 08:45 The point is that Moses was there, but he wasn't just there.
• 08:48 Joshua, who's going to become a principal leader later, is
• 08:53 identified as a principal servant initially.
• 08:57 And I mention that, it interests me that Moses had sons.
• 09:03 And it's not at all uncommon, as you would know amongst priests,
• 09:07 amongst kings.
• 09:08 You have dynasties, you know?
• 09:09 The kids follow in the family business.
• 09:13 But God's business isn't a family business here when it
• 09:16 comes to a prophet.
• 09:17 It's different.
• 09:19 And Joshua the book is slated there in the Hebrew Bible
• 09:23 among the prophets.
• 09:25 There's a word, "navi," to bubble forth.
• 09:27 He brought forth a word and he brought forth new direction
• 09:30 for the people of Israel.
• 09:32 Very interesting.
• 09:33 But we're told here that Moses is principle, but Joshua is
• 09:38 there with him as a servant.
• 09:41 I think this is lost in modernity.
• 09:43 In the trades, it used to be you would have an electrician
• 09:46 and then you would have someone who's a servant to
• 09:48 the master electrician.
• 09:50 A plumber, you would have a servant.
• 09:52 People, as they get into the trades, they're guided
• 09:55 by a more senior hand.
• 09:57 Today, the young, we just want to go get it and seize it.
• 09:59 Here, interestingly, you have Moshe Rabbenu, Moses, but Joshua
• 10:04 is there with him.
• 10:06 Not only here on Sinai, we're told.
• 10:08 And we're told that the minister is there and then...
• 10:11 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 10:13 "And then Moses went up to the mountain of God."
• 10:18 That Moses went up all the way, but Joshua was there with him
• 10:23 for part of the way.
• 10:24 Not just here, by the way.
• 10:26 Elsewhere when Moshe Rabbenu was in the mishkan, this portable
• 10:30 worship center, the tent of meeting elsewhere, we're told
• 10:33 that Joshua was there.
• 10:36 Joshua was a go-to guy to fight battles as well.
• 10:38 He just was with him as an able assistant, not his own sons.
• 10:43 The rabbis say that his sons weren't worthy for it
• 10:46 and they're given scant mention in the Bible.
• 10:48 But you can see here that this man who was gonna lead them
• 10:52 in a conquest himself was more than just a conqueror.
• 10:57 He was a man with a heart for God, as evidenced
• 10:59 by his loyalty.
• 11:01 He's there in the sanctuary.
• 11:02 And here he is at the moment of divine revelation when Moshe
• 11:06 Rabbenu goes up Sinai to get the "luchots," the tablets,
• 11:09 to come down with the Ten Commandments.
• 11:11 We're told that Joshua is there with him.
• 11:15 He was more than just a soldier.
• 11:17 Like David who would come later, he too was a man who was
• 11:21 after God's own heart.
• 11:23 And it's for that reason that he was more than just a conqueror.
• 11:40 Jeffrey Seif: Our Creator chose certain places on the planet
• 11:43 to reveal himself and his message of redemption to us.
• 11:48 Mount Sinai, Mariah, Olives, the Mount of Beatitudes, as well
• 11:53 as various seas, rivers, and deserts, these were
• 11:56 the places.
• 11:57 Some are now only ruins, yet they continue to tell
• 12:01 of the Lord's faithfulness and love.
• 12:04 These sacred backdrops have been beautifully captured in our
• 12:08 resource this week, the book, "Heaven and Earth: Landmarks
• 12:14 of the Bible from Genesis to Revelation."
• 12:17 Our producer and director Ken Berg has assembled some of his
• 12:21 favorite photographs taken during his four decades
• 12:25 of travel through the lands of the Bible.
• 12:30 Contact us and ask for the book, "Heaven and Earth."
• 12:36 David Hart: For many, a trip to the holy land is the dream
• 12:39 of a lifetime.
• 12:42 The Bible truly comes alive as you see the sites where so many
• 12:45 biblical events happened.
• 12:47 Come on a Zola Tour in the spring to see Israel
• 12:50 in Petra, or in the fall to add a cruise to Greece and Ephesus.
• 12:56 See the land of the Bible for yourself.
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• 13:06 Kirsten Hart: This whole series is about Joshua and his life,
• 13:09 and something important about Joshua is he crossed
• 13:12 the Red Sea with Moses.
• 13:14 And what we offer all our viewers and those that are
• 13:17 involved with our ministry is the opportunity to go to Israel.
• 13:22 But also to go down to Eilat, the city of Eilat.
• 13:24 Israel is actually on the Red Sea.
• 13:27 It's absolutely gorgeous.
• 13:29 David Hart: I'll say this too.
• 13:31 In our 30 years of marriage, we've had a lot of opportunities
• 13:33 to travel.
• 13:34 One of the places I'd love to go is the Riviera.
• 13:36 We've never been.
• 13:37 But when we go to Eilat, it feels to me, when seeing
• 13:42 pictures of the Riviera, it looks exactly like that place.
• 13:46 Full of five star hotels, a boardwalk.
• 13:49 It's beautiful.
• 13:50 We'd love for you to join us.
• 13:51 Kirsten Hart: We go two times a year, in the fall and also
• 13:53 in March.
• 13:54 So, check our ministry website and come with us.
• 13:57 Go to Israel.
• 13:59 David Hart: And also, we thank you so much for your support
• 14:00 in our ministry.
• 14:01 Right now, let's go back to Dr.
• 14:03 Seif's teaching in Israel.
• 14:07 Jeffrey Seif: Moshe Rabbenu, Moses, is up there
• 14:09 on the mountain and Joshua is with him.
• 14:12 And Joshua hears something.
• 14:13 We're told later in the 32nd chapter--we're skipping
• 14:17 over a few here, but we want to get to the life of Joshua
• 14:21 and his confidence that he is going to with them make it
• 14:28 into Eretz Kena'an, the land of Canaan.
• 14:30 The word "confidence" comes from the Latin "confides,"
• 14:33 and it's with faith.
• 14:35 There is something in the heart that just prompts you to believe
• 14:38 that you have a future.
• 14:40 And he not only needed it back then to win wars,
• 14:42 you need it today.
• 14:44 You need it today.
• 14:46 I need it today, a kind of faith to reach into the future.
• 14:49 Well, we're following this man before he becomes a leader.
• 14:53 And Moshe Rabbenu here is the principle.
• 14:56 Joshua has not been given the mantle yet, but he's there
• 15:00 and he hears there's a problem.
• 15:02 He's at a place where he hears that all of Israel has kinda
• 15:06 slidden off the rails.
• 15:08 It kinda happens.
• 15:09 We're told here in chapter 32, and I'm looking in verse--
• 15:13 I'm looking at verse 17 actually.
• 15:15 This is out of the Masoretic, the Hebrew Bible.
• 15:17 We're told...
• 15:18 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 15:22 "And Joshua heard the noise of the people as they shouted."
• 15:29 There's--but it's not a victory chant.
• 15:32 You know, there's something going on at the base camp.
• 15:34 A golden calf, you know, debauchery, revelry.
• 15:38 The thing has gone south.
• 15:40 It's the proverbial, "When the cats are away,
• 15:41 the mice play."
• 15:43 And they were playing on steroids here.
• 15:45 I mean, the thing was just out of control.
• 15:47 It's pathetic.
• 15:49 We're told here that Joshua heard the noise.
• 15:54 And we're told...
• 15:55 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 15:57 And then he pivots and says to Moses...
• 16:00 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 16:03 "There is the noise of war in the camp."
• 16:08 And this precipitates them the descent from the mountain.
• 16:11 I'm sure you know the story.
• 16:14 Moshe Rabbenu was not a happy camper.
• 16:16 The luchots, the tablets that were given to him by the Lord,
• 16:20 according to the literature, he throws down at his feet.
• 16:24 Not on his feet, but at them, grinds them into powder.
• 16:27 I mean, it's just a really bad moment.
• 16:32 But against the turbulence of those trying times, there's
• 16:36 a man who shines, not just at this moment but elsewhere
• 16:42 at these pivotal moments when we look at the life
• 16:45 of Moshe Rabbenu.
• 16:48 We see this fellow, Yehosha, in the shadows, but eventually
• 16:51 he won't just be in the shadows.
• 16:54 He himself will be at the vanguard
• 16:57 as the principal leader.
• 17:01 But we're not there yet.
• 17:02 Oh, you know the story of the golden calf.
• 17:05 It's bad.
• 17:07 It's bad, and there's a judgment meted out.
• 17:11 And I should say that if you look at that judgment, that
• 17:14 3,000 or so were slain according to the literature in the book
• 17:18 of Exodus, and that's interesting.
• 17:20 Not to glory in anyone's death, but what's fascinating,
• 17:24 on the day when Moshe Rabbenu comes down with the luchots,
• 17:31 there's a day the Jews celebrate.
• 17:33 It's called Chag Matan Torah, the Feast of the Giving
• 17:35 of the Torah.
• 17:37 It's known by a Greek term to New Testament readers,
• 17:42 Pentecost.
• 17:44 It's fascinating.
• 17:45 In the New Testament world, Jews are assembled in Jerusalem.
• 17:48 We're told in Acts chapter 2, "When the day of Pentecost had
• 17:51 fully come, they were gathered together."
• 17:53 And we're told then that the Ruach Ha-kodesh, the Holy
• 17:57 Spirit, fell upon them.
• 17:59 And we're told subsequent to that then, on that very day,
• 18:02 we're told that Peter gets up and preaches, and that 3,000
• 18:06 people come to life.
• 18:08 They're baptized.
• 18:09 They get saved.
• 18:10 I don't think it's an accident it's on that day, that very day,
• 18:12 this day, this moment, when Moshe Rabbenu comes
• 18:15 down from the mountain, that 3,000 people are lost when
• 18:19 the law was given, when the Torah was given.
• 18:21 It went south.
• 18:24 Fast forward the tape in the New Testament world.
• 18:26 It's on that very day when this new covenant is poured out,
• 18:31 3,000 people come to life.
• 18:33 I think God's balancing his ledger.
• 18:35 It's a fascinating story, but I don't wanna push everything
• 18:38 over to the New Testament world yet because I want to look
• 18:41 at a man who was more than just a conqueror.
• 18:47 We see it here that Moses is gone and Joshua with him,
• 18:52 and Aaron does a really bad job there at the camp.
• 18:54 I'm not impressed with him.
• 18:56 He comes up with these cockamamie excuses when Moses
• 18:59 comes down.
• 19:00 "Well, you know, the people."
• 19:01 You know, where's leadership?
• 19:03 Where is that spine?
• 19:04 Where is that dogged determination?
• 19:06 Aaron just kinda pivots and lays the blame on the people.
• 19:10 He's a little weak.
• 19:11 Now in all fairness, this is all brand new to them.
• 19:14 They're all just getting their feet underneath them, but Joshua
• 19:17 is different.
• 19:18 He seems to me steady as steady can be.
• 19:22 This is the guy later on, by the way, and now I'm pivoting
• 19:25 to the end of the Joshua story.
• 19:27 And here my purpose is just to begin it in this great series
• 19:30 on more than just a conqueror.
• 19:33 One of the more famous lines to speak of this conqueror later
• 19:37 on, he's going to be resolute and you'll hear it in his voice
• 19:41 when it's penned in the literature for all
• 19:44 the ages, when he says, "As for me and my household,
• 19:49 we will serve the Lord."
• 19:52 In fact, at the beginning of the book Joshua, and we'll
• 19:55 get to that the next program, we'll be seeing more
• 19:59 of the particulars of the book as we consider the story
• 20:01 of Joshua.
• 20:03 But the Lord tells him that, "You will cause these people
• 20:07 to inherit."
• 20:09 That is, "Joshua, you fear not."
• 20:11 You know, it takes someone with that eye of the tiger,
• 20:13 with that dogged determination, with that faith, faith in God.
• 20:19 And for my readers and for me, a faith that's revealed
• 20:22 in the person of Jesus.
• 20:26 It's that dogged determination to--you know, Paul tells
• 20:30 Timothy to seize, to lay hold of the eternal life.
• 20:33 It takes that.
• 20:35 Because if you don't have the resolve to do it, if you are
• 20:38 not going to say, "As for me and my house, we will serve
• 20:42 the Lord."
• 20:44 We live in a world today where oftentimes it's the woman who's
• 20:46 more religious, more pious, drags the kids off to church,
• 20:50 Sunday school, kinda leans on her husband to put some money
• 20:53 in the offering plate.
• 20:55 Better it is that it's a man who's like Joshua who was
• 21:00 doggedly determined to be more than just a conqueror,
• 21:03 in a religious sense, to leave a legacy.
• 21:06 If it's a male of the species in a family system who puts his
• 21:11 stamp, that it's his determination that leads in this
• 21:15 regard, that me and my house, this is who we're going to be.
• 21:21 If Daddy does it, there is a much better chance that
• 21:24 the children will live it out in the next generation.
• 21:26 I saw a wonderful study to prove that up.
• 21:30 And I think it's a great point, and I'm going to close this
• 21:32 program on that point, reminding that in as much as Joshua was
• 21:38 more than just a conqueror, let's take a cue from him and be
• 21:43 more than just a conqueror ourselves.
• 21:48 Jeffrey Seif: And now over to my very good friend, Chaim
• 21:53 Malespin, a leader in the Israeli Defense Forces.
• 21:56 Had the opportunity to connect with him in Israel, where he
• 21:59 taught us about leadership.
• 22:02 Jeffrey Seif: Master Sergeant Malespin, everyone wants to be
• 22:06 the big leader.
• 22:07 What do they teach you in the Israeli Defense Forces
• 22:09 about being an assistant, about being a follower?
• 22:12 Chaim Malespin: It's all about being a team,
• 22:13 and understanding the chain of command, and being able
• 22:16 to follow orders.
• 22:17 And part of our core values that we are sworn to follow, the ten
• 22:21 core values, I know there's purity of arms, there's personal
• 22:24 example, but the main one is to be a team player.
• 22:26 I remember when I joined this unit, this is my unit, Yahalom,
• 22:29 which is the special forces for special missions
• 22:32 and tactics.
• 22:33 It's combat engineer core.
• 22:35 And so, we were trained that when we do the initiation, we
• 22:40 had to actually carry our friend up a mountain and down.
• 22:43 And you know, and they continually watch you.
• 22:45 And I don't know what they're watching for,
• 22:46 but they're looking for integrity.
• 22:48 They're looking for tenacity of mission.
• 22:49 They're looking for personal example and they're looking
• 22:51 for someone who's a team player.
• 22:52 And so, when they saw that I was helping people, I just was
• 22:55 in my--I wasn't trained for that in the army.
• 22:58 That was from my home I was trained in this and how
• 23:00 to follow orders.
• 23:01 And they said, "You continue to take care of your friends."
• 23:04 And when I did that, I noticed that they kept on writing my
• 23:07 name down on these little notes.
• 23:09 And what that was is every time I helped someone, and you get
• 23:12 a certain amount, and that's how I was accepted to this unit.
• 23:15 Jeffrey Seif: It's an elite unit and it's interesting too.
• 23:17 In the Bible, Joshua shows himself faithful
• 23:20 behind the scenes all the time before he gets the mantle
• 23:23 of command.
• 23:24 Chaim Malespin: Absolutely.
• 23:26 I know that Israel's army has had many numerous highlights.
• 23:29 I remember when we first got to the Wailing Wall, you know,
• 23:32 in the modern rebirth of Israel in 1967.
• 23:35 And they went in there as a team and they risked their lives
• 23:37 to go behind then was enemy lines, which way back in the day
• 23:41 was a Jebusite city.
• 23:43 But then, like now, there is this ability to say, "Hey, will
• 23:46 we maintain our trust in the God of Israel, and even our trust
• 23:50 in the ones who are mandated leaders over us?"
• 23:52 Jeffrey Seif: So you have to be trustworthy.
• 23:54 Thanks, Sarge.
• 23:56 Chaim Malespin: It's a pleasure.
• 24:00 ♪ "In my Father's house are many mansions ♪
• 24:02 ♪ And I go to prepare a place for you." ♪
• 24:06 ♪ This said my Lord on the day that he died for me ♪
• 24:20 ♪♪♪
• 24:30 ♪♪♪
• 24:35 ♪♪♪
• 24:41 ♪ This said my Lord ♪
• 24:46 ♪ This said my Lord on the day that he died for me ♪
• 25:00 ♪ On the day that he died ♪
• 25:06 ♪♪♪
• 25:11 ♪♪♪
• 25:17 David Hart: That's music from our founder, Zola Levitt.
• 25:19 It's hard to believe he's been gone now for the past 13,
• 25:22 almost 14 years.
• 25:24 Jeffrey Seif: Well, we hear his voice and we see him still,
• 25:27 but you know, there's the business of the future.
• 25:28 We don't forget the past and we honor him.
• 25:31 He was a professionally trained musician.
• 25:32 David Hart: That's right.
• 25:34 Jeffrey Seif: Years, degrees in the field, in fact.
• 25:35 David Hart: Doctorates, I believe.
• 25:36 Jeffrey Seif: Well, he went up to the doctoral degree.
• 25:38 Never wrote his dissertation.
• 25:40 Kirsten Hart: I wanna jump into Joshua.
• 25:42 It's something I love about him as a person is he was not afraid
• 25:48 to learn and to be an apprentice of Moses.
• 25:50 He wasn't afraid to be in that subservient, should I say?
• 25:54 Jeffrey Seif: And he was there as an apprentice, but then
• 25:56 the mantle was on him.
• 25:57 It's just--it's the nature of things.
• 26:00 No one lives forever.
• 26:02 And you know, Joshua had to follow in Moses's footsteps
• 26:05 and and we follow in Zola's.
• 26:08 It is what it is.
• 26:09 We remember the past, but we reach for the future.
• 26:11 David Hart: I think he'd be happy to know that we're
• 26:13 continuing his legacy.
• 26:14 Jeffrey Seif: I think so.
• 26:16 Many don't continue.
• 26:17 This is well over a decade since he went on to be
• 26:19 with the Lord.
• 26:20 That's a tribute to the founders that love our Jewish roots.
• 26:23 Kirsten Hart: Yes, it's all about that.
• 26:24 And we have such a desire to learn, especially
• 26:29 from the Old Testament.
• 26:30 There's so much rich history that we're just not taught
• 26:33 in churches.
• 26:34 Jeffrey Seif: I think our viewers are interested in these
• 26:35 panels behind us, modern Israel.
• 26:37 I think they're interested in looking at biblical
• 26:39 literature.
• 26:41 They want to look at the good news through the eyes
• 26:42 of the Jews.
• 26:43 That business carries on until it's all over for all
• 26:45 of us.
• 26:46 Kirsten Hart: And Joshua was just such a great man to learn
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