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Caption transcript for The First Christians (2019): “Livelihood” (3/9)

• 00:00 Jeffrey Seif: We all have
• 00:03 bills to pay, don't we? Bummer on that.
• 00:05 They did in century 1, as well, and in this program we're gonna
• 00:08 see how they did it.
• 00:11 Coming to you with "Zola Levitt Presents."
• 00:14 ♪♪♪
• 00:21 male announcer: "Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God
• 00:24 for Israel is that they might be saved.
• 00:28 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek:
• 00:31 for the same Lord over all is rich unto all
• 00:34 that call upon him."
• 00:36 "Zola Levitt Presents."
• 00:38 ♪♪♪
• 00:46 David Hart: Thank you for joining us today on
• 00:48 "Zola Levitt Presents."
• 00:49 I'm David Hart.
• 00:50 Kirsten Hart: I'm Kirsten Hart.
• 00:52 Jeffrey: I'm Jeffrey Seif, and you're going to see today
• 00:54 that there is something fishy going on in century 1.
• 00:57 Kirsten: Okay, you win with that one.
• 00:59 Jeffrey: That was stupid, but it gets it moving.
• 01:01 David: They had to work back in the day.
• 01:03 Jeffrey: Gotta make a living.
• 01:04 Kirsten: As we do, and it's all about--today
• 01:06 is all about livelihoods.
• 01:08 What was the work like?
• 01:09 What were the jobs in the 1st century?
• 01:11 And to learn more about that we're going to learn what it was
• 01:15 like to be a fisherman back in Jesus's day.
• 01:19 Let's go to Israel.
• 01:22 male: The Jewish fishermen on the Sea of Galilee for thousands
• 01:25 of years of making their living through the ancient art of
• 01:28 throwing the cast net, setting out the trammel
• 01:32 nets, the dragnets.
• 01:35 Mendel Nun in his research has taken the gospel and its
• 01:38 references to nets and fishing and brought it to life in
• 01:42 day-to-day terms with his knowledge of the Sea of Galilee,
• 01:46 the types of fishing methods used through the years,
• 01:49 the types of fish to be caught, the storms,
• 01:52 the weather conditions on the Sea of Galilee.
• 01:56 When Jesus came down from Nazareth and found the
• 01:58 fishing village of Capernaum, or Kfar Nahum,
• 02:00 he found a group of fishermen at a place called Tabgha,
• 02:03 which was the fishing grounds of the people of Capernaum.
• 02:08 And as Yoel today is throwing his cast net more or less in the
• 02:12 same manner, using the same kind of fishing net made from the
• 02:16 same materials that were made by that 1st century fisherman,
• 02:20 so did they make their living.
• 02:22 The net we see here in front of us is the--is an exact replica
• 02:26 of the nets used by the 1st-century fisherman.
• 02:32 The cast net was weighted down by stones that had been drilled
• 02:39 to become sinkers.
• 02:41 Even in the 1st century the more advanced fishermen at that time
• 02:46 had lead sinkers, but the Sea of Galilee fishermen were poor,
• 02:51 and it was easier for them to get stone sinkers.
• 02:54 There is different kinds of nets for the
• 02:57 different kinds of fishes.
• 02:59 The fishing industry of the 1st century based its livelihood on
• 03:03 seasonal fishing, different types of fish.
• 03:06 The sardines, the fresh-water, Sea-of-Galilee
• 03:10 sardines in the winter.
• 03:12 The St. Peter's fish, which is attracted to the hot springs at
• 03:16 the fishing grounds of Tabgha, and the different fish that are
• 03:20 related to as good fish and bad fish.
• 03:24 Being Jewish fishermen, any fish that wasn't kosher was a bad
• 03:28 fish and as they brought in their catch and separated the
• 03:32 good from the bad we know what they're talking about.
• 03:35 We know they're talking about catfish as the bad fish and the
• 03:37 good fish as the St. Peter's fish, the sardines, the binit.
• 03:42 Well, it looks like the 20th-century fisherman
• 03:45 is--has his good days and his bad days, as
• 03:47 did the 1st-century fisherman.
• 03:49 Not only on using the cast nets did they make their living,
• 03:53 but also fish from boats.
• 03:54 We'll go on now and see a replica of a 1st-century boat.
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• 04:08 male: We've got a nice northwesterly breeze.
• 04:10 If I were in Capernaum, or Kfar Nahum,
• 04:14 that breeze would take me right here to Ein Gev.
• 04:18 If I use the oar to steer a bit I could end up at Kursi,
• 04:20 at Kursi where the miracle of the swines,
• 04:24 the demon, the man possessed.
• 04:26 They happened on Kursi because there were
• 04:29 great fishing grounds there.
• 04:32 When we reach our fishing grounds we'd have
• 04:34 to throw the anchor.
• 04:36 The anchor is a basalt stone with a drilled hole in it,
• 04:40 much like the sinkers we saw on the nets before.
• 04:42 You could come up with a load of fish and then against the wind
• 04:48 have to roll back, taking turns sleeping under the stern.
• 04:51 It doesn't look comfortable now, but if you're rowing all day
• 04:53 it's great to sleep down there and keep warm.
• 04:55 If a storm should come up it'd be the place to be.
• 04:59 This boat is a replica of--replica of a boat,
• 05:03 an authentic replica, which was probably built in a place called
• 05:08 Magdala, which is right behind me,
• 05:11 the industrial center of the fishing community
• 05:14 of the Sea of Galilee.
• 05:16 There they would preserve fish, build the boats.
• 05:19 The boat of the 1st century was made of cedar from Lebanon with
• 05:25 local oak as the ribs.
• 05:29 The boat itself was cedar.
• 05:30 The ribs inside were local oak.
• 05:33 The cedar was put together, handmade with wood dowels.
• 05:36 There were iron nails used to put the ribs to the boat itself.
• 05:41 In Mendel Nun's museum at Ein Gev we can find authentic
• 05:46 nails from that period.
• 05:48 We're talking thousands of years of Jewish fishing on the Sea of
• 05:52 Galilee from the 1st century, from the time of Jesus,
• 05:55 up to the time when Mendel Nun was a fisherman himself
• 05:59 on the Sea of Galilee.
• 06:00 The tradition has been kept alive.
• 06:02 This authentic replica in the authentic place,
• 06:08 it all happened here on the Sea of Galilee
• 06:11 nearly 2,000 years ago.
• 06:20 Zola Levitt: Fishing was always a staple employment in Israel.
• 06:24 Israel has four seas.
• 06:26 It has a coast on the Mediterranean,
• 06:28 which, of course, is invariably an ocean full of fish.
• 06:31 There is the Sea of Galilee in the north,
• 06:34 a freshwater lake with its own freshwater fish.
• 06:37 There is the Red Sea coming up to the south of Israel and--
• 06:40 in the bottom of the Negev Desert, and it
• 06:44 is teeming with fish.
• 06:46 The Dead Sea is the fourth, and it has nothing in it alive,
• 06:50 but people mine the minerals.
• 06:53 They have had to make boats that can withstand the water out
• 06:57 there and, that has been an industry,
• 06:59 too, all through the ages.
• 07:01 Early on, people who lived around water discovered clay and
• 07:05 how to use it, and so pottery has been an employment in
• 07:10 Israel, and the potter's wheel, something from ancient times,
• 07:15 still in use today in some places and doing
• 07:18 a very good job.
• 07:20 You know, the employment of people in the
• 07:21 Scriptures is no accident.
• 07:23 Peter the great fishermen, so called,
• 07:27 was--of course, when the Lord found him was made a fisher of
• 07:30 men, and he is the great evangelist.
• 07:33 You recall the Lord saying to the prospective
• 07:36 disciples, "Follow me.
• 07:38 I'll make you fishers of men."
• 07:39 The patriarchs, for their part, were shepherds.
• 07:43 They founded a flock and bred it and cared for it and fed it and
• 07:47 started off a flock called the chosen people.
• 07:50 King David also in his time was a shepherd.
• 07:54 Paul was the great church builder.
• 07:57 He went around founding churches and starting them out.
• 08:00 He was a tentmaker.
• 08:02 The original church, so to speak,
• 08:04 was the tabernacle, a tent, that they carried with them in the
• 08:07 wilderness, so Paul the tentmaker was the
• 08:09 maker of churches.
• 08:10 And David, too, to give him his due,
• 08:14 was a poet and a musician, and so that talent of his was taken
• 08:20 when he composed the psalms.
• 08:22 Some called them the mightiest of David's mighty works.
• 08:27 The idea of the employment of people of the Bible,
• 08:30 particularly the disciples, was brought out by the great senate
• 08:34 chaplain, Peter Marshall.
• 08:36 Back in the '40s, he gave a sermon so wonderful that it is
• 08:41 reproduced in the book "A Man Called Peter," which is just a
• 08:44 wonderful classic of Christian reading.
• 08:47 And he made this very point: that the disciples were ordinary
• 08:53 men who labored for a living.
• 08:55 He pretends that we are a committee going to choose people
• 08:59 to be disciples, and he talks about, let's say, Peter first.
• 09:03 "Here comes the first candidate.
• 09:05 He's just come up from the beach.
• 09:07 His fishing boat drawn up on the pebbled shore has worn seats,
• 09:11 patched sails, and the high rudder that is characteristic
• 09:15 of Galilean fishing craft."
• 09:17 And he goes on, "His hands are rough, though.
• 09:19 His robe is rough. He smells of fish."
• 09:22 He says, "He's an uncouth person--not at all refined,
• 09:24 or cultured, or educated.
• 09:26 Blustering, blundering, clumsy, impulsive."
• 09:30 He says he's getting to be middle-aged.
• 09:33 His ideas will be hard to change.
• 09:34 "He is a rough man, and he has lived a rough life.
• 09:38 When provoked he's liable to burst into profanity,
• 09:41 and his vocabulary is lurid."
• 09:43 Can you imagine this big fisherman
• 09:46 as a disciple of Jesus?
• 09:48 He would not be your choice, would he?
• 09:50 No, we'd better send Simon back to his nets and the point of
• 09:56 this brilliant preacher is none of these disciples seem
• 09:59 to qualify to be disciples.
• 10:02 They were just rough-hewn, working men.
• 10:04 We would never choose them, and he's gonna make that point,
• 10:06 and then, of course, at the end he's gonna show how the
• 10:08 Lord makes useful things out of plain material.
• 10:12 "The next candidates are brothers; they come in together.
• 10:15 They, too, like Simon Peter, are fishermen.
• 10:18 They come from the same village, from the same colony of rough,
• 10:21 strong men who work with their hands for a living.
• 10:24 But you are not going to hold that against them, are you?
• 10:27 Let no social snobbishness sway your judgment.
• 10:30 Remember, the Lord himself was a carpenter.
• 10:32 There is no shame in manual labor and would it not be to a
• 10:36 preacher's advantage to know what it is to do manual labor?
• 10:39 Would it not be excellent preparation for the ministry?"
• 10:43 And he talks about the sons of thunder.
• 10:46 "These two men are looking at you.
• 10:48 Their eyes are steady, accustomed to far distances.
• 10:51 They are good weather prophets.
• 10:53 A glance at the sky and a look at the lake,
• 10:55 and they can tell you what is brewing.
• 10:56 They know the signs of the sudden squalls that whistle
• 10:59 through the mountain passes and come screaming down to
• 11:02 make the water dangerous.
• 11:04 But it is chiefly their attitude that irritates the others.
• 11:07 They are not modest men.
• 11:09 They are boastful and through capped hands they like to shout
• 11:13 taunts to the other fishermen handing in their nets.
• 11:16 They have earned for themselves the nickname 'the sons of
• 11:19 thunder,' because they're always rumbling about something."
• 11:23 And he goes on to conclude that they would
• 11:27 not be our choice, either.
• 11:29 "If we took time to hear the testimony from people who
• 11:32 know them, our verdict would be unanimous.
• 11:34 That James and John would simply not do."
• 11:38 And as he goes on he stresses that because these people work
• 11:43 for a living, because they cuss, they spit,
• 11:47 their hands are rough-hewn and so on,
• 11:50 we wouldn't choose them for the ministry.
• 11:53 We would be wrong, obviously.
• 11:55 Now, as the thing goes on we begin to realize God has always
• 12:00 as a principle taken the plain people.
• 12:03 With Abraham, he chose just a pagan worshiper or the son of a
• 12:07 pagan worshiper from Ur to go to Canaan and
• 12:10 begin the chosen people.
• 12:12 When he reached for people like Moses and Gideon,
• 12:17 gosh, Moses said, "I'm not a leader of people,
• 12:20 and I stammer when I speak.
• 12:22 I'm not a good choice for this mission."
• 12:24 Gideon put out the fleece, you know, just wasn't sure.
• 12:29 He hesitated and hesitated.
• 12:31 Scripture is full of people--was not the prophet Elijah out in
• 12:35 the desert afraid of Jezebel and crying to the Lord,
• 12:38 "There's none left that believe but me and
• 12:42 now they're coming after me"?
• 12:44 And that's when God reassured him,
• 12:46 "No, no, there are 7,000 that haven't bowed the knee to Baal."
• 12:49 He had an exact count of the believers.
• 12:51 Straight on through, the Bible is an example
• 12:53 of the Lord taking up clay.
• 12:57 Not gold, not precious stones, not silver,
• 13:00 but plain earth with which he makes useful things.
• 13:04 2 Corinthians 4 beautifully characterizes the believers as
• 13:09 creatures made like earthen vessels, with a treasure within.
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• 14:29 David: On our program we love bringing you footage from one of
• 14:32 my favorite places in Israel.
• 14:34 I think it might be yours, too.
• 14:35 I'm not sure, the Sea of Galilee.
• 14:37 It's beautiful. It's blooming.
• 14:39 One of the things we love to do is get on what's called the
• 14:42 Jesus boat and there we will lead you in worship.
• 14:45 Actually, what we're talking about today is fishermen.
• 14:48 This is, kind of, a replica of what it was
• 14:51 like back in that day in that boat.
• 14:53 Join us.
• 14:54 Kirsten: Spring and fall. We go two times a year.
• 14:55 We'd also just like to take a little break from our program
• 14:57 to tell you thank you for supporting all the ministries
• 15:02 that we support, for seeing the value of "Zola Levitt Presents."
• 15:07 You make all of this possible, and we just--we
• 15:10 thank you so much for that.
• 15:11 David: Thank you.
• 15:12 Right now let's go back to Zola's teaching on location.
• 15:18 Zola: Well, Peter Marshall goes on,
• 15:19 "I am sure you would not argue with me if I suggested that
• 15:23 these men had more influence on the course of human history than
• 15:28 of any other dozen men who ever lived."
• 15:31 After he makes the point that none of them seemed really
• 15:34 adequate for the task, and they didn't seem adequate even when
• 15:38 the Lord left them, you know?
• 15:39 They had little faith at the end.
• 15:43 After all, Peter denied him and so forth.
• 15:45 He goes on, "Philip looks before he leaps;
• 15:50 Peter leaps before he looks.
• 15:51 Thomas was a dogged unbeliever until the last minute.
• 15:54 Judas sought regeneration through revolution,
• 15:57 instead of revolution through regeneration.
• 16:01 James and John wanted to get rid of people who differed with
• 16:04 them, instead of getting rid of the differences so they could
• 16:07 get the people.
• 16:08 Had you and I been members of any investigating committee,
• 16:12 we would have rejected every one of them.
• 16:14 Yet Jesus chose them, why?
• 16:18 Mark tells us in his gospel that Jesus chose them," quote,
• 16:22 "'That they should be with him and that he might
• 16:26 send them forth to preach.'"
• 16:28 That's why he chooses every one of us, to tell you the truth.
• 16:31 Every one of us isn't a preacher.
• 16:33 I'm not a preacher.
• 16:35 Some people preach eloquently, like Peter Marshall,
• 16:38 and some almost stammer and some can talk fluently about the Lord
• 16:42 but really aren't made for pulpits.
• 16:44 Every one of us, though, can give out eternal life.
• 16:48 A little child in the Christian church can pass eternal life out
• 16:51 to dozens of adults, and that is what he sent us forth to do.
• 16:57 I always think of the Scripture we use with our tour brochures,
• 17:00 Matthew 10:5, 6, 7, in there where he tells 'em to go on to
• 17:06 the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
• 17:08 "And as ye go preach, saying, 'The kingdom
• 17:12 of heaven is at hand.'"
• 17:13 If we only said that much, however the unbeliever
• 17:17 reacts, we would at least say the gospel.
• 17:21 "The kingdom of heaven is at hand," and that should make
• 17:24 people curious to know how to become a member.
• 17:28 Well, back to the workday life.
• 17:30 We all have some employment and the employments of the Bible
• 17:35 people, as we pointed out, were significant to their task.
• 17:38 Many other employments are mentioned.
• 17:40 Among the disciples, of course, are various trades and so on.
• 17:46 They were all tradesmen.
• 17:47 Agriculture was important.
• 17:49 Any one of these men could have at least assisted on
• 17:51 a farm or ranch in Galilee.
• 17:54 There are plenty there today and the Scripture from start
• 17:57 to finish is full of farming analogies and parables.
• 18:01 The Lord used them all the time: the sower of the seed,
• 18:04 the planter of a field, and so on.
• 18:06 Dye making is mentioned in the New Testament and the dying
• 18:11 of fabrics important.
• 18:14 These fabrics which we copy from the New Testament robes
• 18:17 are obviously dyed fabrics.
• 18:21 Publicans, people that collected taxes.
• 18:24 Matthew was one of them, you know?
• 18:27 It's often criticized Matthew was hated by the people.
• 18:31 I think this is rather overdone.
• 18:33 We don't actually hate the tax collector, I suppose.
• 18:35 He's a necessity, although it's not like being an IRS agent to
• 18:43 do what Matthew did, because Matthew worked
• 18:45 for an occupying government.
• 18:47 Still somebody had to collect taxes.
• 18:49 The Romans didn't wanna go themselves for obvious reasons,
• 18:52 and so they hired people willing to work,
• 18:54 but for this reason Matthew did not have an excellent reputation
• 18:58 with his countrymen.
• 19:00 But hated is maybe too strong.
• 19:02 The publican Zacchaeus was loved by Jesus, if you recall.
• 19:06 He got up into the sycamore tree in Jericho when Jesus came
• 19:09 through town, because he was a short man,
• 19:11 and he couldn't see over the crowd.
• 19:13 And when Jesus beheld that, he said he wanted
• 19:16 to sup with him that day.
• 19:17 Jesus was criticized for eating his meals with publicans and
• 19:22 sinners, so it's said, and so are we all in the church,
• 19:28 I suppose, but Jesus said look deeper than a
• 19:31 man's occupation, obviously.
• 19:34 Tanning.
• 19:36 Peter stayed at the house of Simon the Tanner
• 19:38 in Joppa in Acts 10.
• 19:40 That critical chapter again where Gentile salvation
• 19:44 is first established.
• 19:45 Peter might have stayed a lot of places.
• 19:48 Evidently, Simon was a believer, and he chose the tanner's house,
• 19:54 and it says in the chapter that he went up on the flat
• 19:58 roof there to pray in Acts 10:9.
• 20:01 The tanner would have had a large flat roof,
• 20:04 evidently, to lay out his hides.
• 20:06 Merchants are mentioned throughout the Scripture and are
• 20:10 always of a necessity.
• 20:11 Even the merchants at the temple where Jesus threw over the
• 20:14 change--the tables of the moneychangers and released the
• 20:18 doves and so on, the sellers of sacrificial animals,
• 20:21 they were necessary.
• 20:23 The moneychangers were necessary.
• 20:25 The Lord was not objecting to their occupation but to the
• 20:28 commissions they charged.
• 20:29 They were robbing the people.
• 20:31 There is money changing and money changing,
• 20:33 and you all know that, and they were taking advantage of the
• 20:36 fact that foreign pilgrims had maybe only a hazy knowledge of
• 20:39 the exchange rates and were in a hurry and needed to change to
• 20:43 temple coinage and so on and were just taking too much.
• 20:47 A realtor. Ananias was a realtor.
• 20:50 People had to buy and sell property and homes on a constant
• 20:54 basis in the New Testament.
• 20:56 We mentioned, of course, Paul and his tent making and how it
• 21:01 makes such a wonderful analogy to the building of churches.
• 21:05 And, finally, you know, when we look at the tabernacle,
• 21:09 the original tent, God had intentions for the very
• 21:12 materials that were used.
• 21:15 Gold is symbolic of God himself.
• 21:19 The hangings, the silver, silver is redemption,
• 21:23 the things they hang the cloths on.
• 21:25 And wood, plain wood, is mankind.
• 21:29 Wood is very plain compared to these precious things,
• 21:33 rather, like clay, but the Lord Jesus Christ had no
• 21:38 other occupation but that he was a carpenter,
• 21:41 one who makes useful things out of wood.
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• 23:37 Kirsten: That was Zola Levitt playing an ancient instrument
• 23:41 called a rouche fife.
• 23:43 Now, he exactly didn't record blowing into that.
• 23:46 He is actually--was actually an oboist,
• 23:49 a professional oboist, before he became a TV man and radio
• 23:53 man and that was his livelihood, which we're talking about today.
• 23:56 Jeffrey: A journalist first, by the way.
• 23:58 Kirsten: Was he? Jeffrey: Yes, he was.
• 23:59 Kirsten: He did everything. Jeffrey: And radio.
• 24:01 Jeffrey: Well, he did those and, you know,
• 24:02 the word "vocation" comes from the Latin "vocatio."
• 24:05 It's where we get the word "voice."
• 24:07 How's that for two musicians?
• 24:09 Someone notices a voice within them,
• 24:10 beckoning them in a particular direction,
• 24:13 and Zola early in the game, music,
• 24:15 had a bachelor's and a master's, up to a doctorate, in it.
• 24:18 Kirsten: And that's what we do.
• 24:19 I mean, you've sung your whole life for your livelihood.
• 24:21 David: Right, I have the privilege of
• 24:23 being involved in an environment where
• 24:24 all I do is listen to gospel music.
• 24:28 There are those who maybe don't have that luxury that I do,
• 24:32 but whatever we do in our livelihood we need to do it
• 24:35 with vigor and as unto the Lord.
• 24:39 Jeffrey: That's true.
• 24:40 You know, the Bible says, "Be excellent at what is good and
• 24:43 innocent of evil, and the God of peace will soon crush Satan
• 24:47 underneath our feet."
• 24:48 Excellence is a good thing.
• 24:49 If you look at those first disciples,
• 24:51 fishing was on the menu, and this became something of
• 24:55 a template for what ministry was all about: to go out and
• 24:58 to become fishers of men.
• 25:01 There's all kinds of fish in the sea,
• 25:03 and there is a parable in the Matthean Gospel about the net
• 25:06 is thrown out and gathers up all kinds of fish.
• 25:10 That's true in church work generally,
• 25:13 and it is true in this ministry in particular.
• 25:16 A lotta times evangelism is throwing a single
• 25:19 line out there.
• 25:21 Television goes all over the world.
• 25:22 We throw out a big net, and I wanna ask you,
• 25:26 at the risk of it being redundant because I know the
• 25:29 question was raised earlier with an encouragement,
• 25:32 if you'd support us, but please.
• 25:34 You know, the Bible says that if you give a cup of cold water to
• 25:38 someone who's on the journey vocationally to advance the
• 25:41 kingdom, you won't lose your reward.
• 25:44 There's a blessing in that for you.
• 25:45 If you send money to "Zola Levitt Presents" I can promise
• 25:48 you one thing: it doesn't go into my pocket.
• 25:52 I'm not lining my pockets on the money that comes in here.
• 25:56 We're using it to make programs.
• 25:58 I won't tell you how much money I make 'cause you'd be
• 26:00 embarrassed that it's not as much as you might think.
• 26:03 None of us do.
• 26:05 If I was looking to do it for the money,
• 26:07 I wouldn't be doing this.
• 26:08 We do it for the love of it.
• 26:10 I want to encourage you please help us in the doing.
• 26:13 If you think I'm lying about how simple we live and how much
• 26:16 money we don't make, come and visit our office.
• 26:19 I think you'd be impressed.
• 26:21 David: That's great.
• 26:23 Kirsten: That's true. We're frugal.
• 26:24 I think that's a good word for us.
• 26:26 Jeffrey: Yes, it really is.
• 26:27 David: Next week, we will talk about the olive.
• 26:28 What it has to do with family.
• 26:30 Join us next week.
• 26:32 Jeffrey: Yes, and until then sha'alu shalom Yerushalayim.
• 26:37 Kirsten: Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
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