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• 00:03 David Hart: Welcome to "Our Jewish Roots" with Bible teaching from Israel by Dr. Jeffrey Seif. On today's program we continue
• 00:11 our look at the women of the Bible in our series "She Shall Be Called Woman."
• 00:18 ♪♪♪
• 00:29 female: I came forth from a man.
• 00:31 female: But I found favor with him.
• 00:33 female: And true success is not measured in wealth
• 00:35 and power but in the estate with one's heart.
• 00:39 female: I've never been happier and more fulfilled.
• 00:43 female: I raised him up strictly in the faith,
• 00:45 the law, and the prophets.
• 00:46 female: And now I want to give something back.
• 00:48 female: I believe Elohim meant it to be this way.
• 00:50 female: She's still a cornerstone of wisdom
• 00:52 to the family.
• 00:53 female: But you are always in my heart.
• 00:56 ♪♪♪
• 01:07 David: Thank you for joining us today.
• 01:09 I'm David Hart.
• 01:10 Kirsten Hart: I'm Kirsten Hart.
• 01:11 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: I am provocateur.
• 01:13 Actually, the name is Jeffrey Seif,
• 01:14 but the series title is provocative:
• 01:18 "She Shall Be Called Woman."
• 01:22 In today's culture, goodness, that just sends chills down the
• 01:26 spines of many and I don't know why.
• 01:27 It's just not that complex.
• 01:29 Kirsten: I was gonna say even a few years ago,
• 01:30 this title wasn't anything to, shall I say,
• 01:33 bat an eyelash at.
• 01:34 But now it is because gender roles have changed--
• 01:40 well, they haven't changed, but they've morphed.
• 01:42 People are morphing them into what they want them to look like
• 01:44 and be.
• 01:46 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: You know, I got to a place in my life when I
• 01:49 prayed the sinner's prayer and asked the Lord into my
• 01:51 heart, I decided to take a look in the book and let the Bible
• 01:57 serve as a guide to the perplexed, for me to understand
• 02:00 what my life was all about.
• 02:02 Would that men would do that and women would do that,
• 02:06 we'd find a lot of clarity and a lot of healing in the process,
• 02:08 I believe.
• 02:10 David: I think part of today's program is about us,
• 02:12 as men, who have great spouses in our lives.
• 02:15 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Yes, just like you have and I have too.
• 02:18 My wife, Barri, I say she's the way,
• 02:21 the truth, and the wife.
• 02:22 You got a good one too.
• 02:23 David: We're blessed.
• 02:25 Kirsten: Good program covered today.
• 02:26 David: Right now, let's go to Dr. Seif's teaching in Israel.
• 02:30 ♪♪♪
• 02:35 Abigail: My husband, the scoundrel,
• 02:38 his name is Nabal and folly was with him.
• 02:43 But it was for his life and the lives of our family that I went
• 02:46 forth to intervene.
• 02:49 Yahweh's servant David came in peace and kindness,
• 02:53 but Nabal repaid him with evil.
• 02:57 If Elohim would not have been with me,
• 02:59 David would have avenged justice with bloodshed,
• 03:03 but I sent gifts to David and his men,
• 03:06 food and supplies, and then I pleaded with him
• 03:09 for mercy and forgiveness.
• 03:11 Yahweh's words were on my lips and they cooled
• 03:14 the hot coals of anger.
• 03:16 David received my counsel with gladness and sent me home
• 03:20 in peace.
• 03:22 ♪♪♪
• 03:26 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: What causes wars?
• 03:28 It's an age-old question.
• 03:30 In the New Testament, Ya'aqov, or James,
• 03:33 raised it.
• 03:34 It's not that he didn't know the answer.
• 03:36 He speaks about selfish ambitions that are let loose and
• 03:39 people fight and they wrangle.
• 03:41 They're fighting here. Who do they blame it on?
• 03:43 Is it the donkey?
• 03:44 Is it a business deal that went wrong?
• 03:46 Where do you point the finger?
• 03:49 Well, in James, in the end of the 3rd chapter,
• 03:52 here he speaks of a wisdom that comes down that's gentle
• 03:57 and peaceful.
• 03:59 But sometimes, there's tension and stress.
• 04:02 A woman's voice can sometimes be that voice of moderation.
• 04:06 The males of the species, we can be so very robust and so very
• 04:10 intense, and sometimes, as noted,
• 04:13 it's a woman who has a way of bringing insights to bear in
• 04:17 helping us get through when we get tangled up together.
• 04:23 There's a famous story in the Bible about a man who almost
• 04:26 made a horrible mistake.
• 04:29 David was offended, of course, and he had every right to be.
• 04:32 Nabal was a fool and treated him roughly.
• 04:36 David has just finished being particularly gracious to Saul.
• 04:41 He, in the previous chapter, had gone into a cave and there Saul
• 04:45 was, relieving himself.
• 04:48 The text is very appropriate at not going into all the details.
• 04:52 But David had him but he wouldn't take him.
• 04:55 But, in our story today, David is escalating up,
• 04:59 he's robust, he's angry, he's disconcerted.
• 05:02 This is a man who has been disrespected and he wants blood.
• 05:08 The book, 1 Shmuel, 1 Samuel, tells the story,
• 05:12 describes how David's men were insulted by Nabal.
• 05:16 Nabal is introduced into the narrative,
• 05:18 as is his wife, Abigail.
• 05:21 And it's David's encounter with her that's gonna be very
• 05:24 significant for him.
• 05:27 In chapter 25, verse 3, the characters are introduced,
• 05:31 the principal characters.
• 05:33 The text says:
• 05:34 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 05:36 And the man's name was Nabal," which really,
• 05:37 in effect, means fool.
• 05:39 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 05:41 Abigail is introduced.
• 05:43 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 05:46 This was a woman with good understanding,
• 05:48 with good smarts and, not only that,
• 05:51 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 05:52 she was good of form,
• 05:54 she was beautiful."
• 05:56 And by way of contrast, Nabal is introduced as
• 05:59 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 06:01 He was a rough man."
• 06:03 And this man got sideways with David,
• 06:07 and David had garnered a force together of 400-plus,
• 06:12 and he was bent on his demise.
• 06:14 Thank God for his wife.
• 06:16 He would have made a horrible mistake and we're going to
• 06:19 consider today how a woman's voice can help the males of the
• 06:22 species settle down and think right.
• 06:25 ♪♪♪
• 06:37 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: The males of the species,
• 06:39 innately have a tendency to escalate up,
• 06:42 more so than the females of the species.
• 06:45 Doesn't take much, sometimes at the slightest provocation,
• 06:49 the males can begin to rage, the pressure builds up,
• 06:52 and why?
• 06:53 Because he feels disrespected, dishonored.
• 06:58 And that's all that it takes many times.
• 07:00 Paul was sensitive to that.
• 07:02 He realizes that women wanna be loved,
• 07:04 so he says, "Husbands, love your wives."
• 07:07 He doesn't tell the wives to love their husbands.
• 07:09 He tells the wives, "Learn to respect your husband,
• 07:12 to honor your husband."
• 07:14 For as much as a woman can feel disconcerted if she's not loved,
• 07:18 a man can become disoriented, the wheels start turning if he
• 07:22 feels disrespected.
• 07:24 And if that's turning within him,
• 07:26 that can have implications at the behavioral level.
• 07:30 I've seen this happen more than once,
• 07:31 not just in others, but in myself.
• 07:34 I get an email this morning, I open it up,
• 07:36 and I'm off to the races.
• 07:38 I'm not a happy camper.
• 07:40 I begin today with a film crew coming out to a shoot and our
• 07:44 producer, Ken Berg, says, "Jeff, this isn't gonna
• 07:46 ruin your day, is it?"
• 07:47 Well, no, it isn't.
• 07:48 I'll just lay it aside and move on.
• 07:50 I'm only mentioning that to say that I,
• 07:52 you, we, have a propensity to escalate up.
• 07:55 That's the bad news.
• 07:57 The good news, hopefully, is that we have within us,
• 08:00 especially those that have received the Holy Spirit,
• 08:02 have within us, the ability to get that under control.
• 08:05 It's good to learn to get it under control.
• 08:07 The Spirit helps us and you know what else helps us?
• 08:10 A woman helps us.
• 08:12 I've seen this on more than one occasion,
• 08:14 by the way, as a police officer responding to a call.
• 08:17 There's one man, there could be a roomful of men,
• 08:20 big men, buff men, intense men.
• 08:23 It's escalating up, I'm on the radio calling for backup.
• 08:27 It looks like it's about to go bad and then Mama speaks up.
• 08:31 These men can be 6'6, Mother can be 5'2.
• 08:35 "Now, you, stop."
• 08:37 I've seen a woman get in there like a traffic cop and sort it
• 08:39 all out.
• 08:41 I've seen it happen with a wife, with a girlfriend,
• 08:43 with a mother.
• 08:45 You know, even the hardest of the hard will
• 08:48 respond to their mother.
• 08:49 You can go in a penitentiary, these guys have raped,
• 08:52 pillaged, and plundered, but if you insult their mother,
• 08:56 you know, that's tantamount to whatever.
• 08:58 I mean, it's just something, the way a man can acknowledge the
• 09:02 fact that a woman has a calming effect on him and feel a certain
• 09:07 kind of loyalty to a woman.
• 09:10 King David exemplifies this marvelously
• 09:14 in the story at hand.
• 09:15 You recall that he was insulted by a foolish man,
• 09:19 a churlish man, fellow named Nabal.
• 09:22 Abigail, his wife, however, intercedes.
• 09:25 David has marshaled the force and he's bent on venting his
• 09:29 fury on this fellow and were it not for the fact that he
• 09:33 encountered Abigail in the process,
• 09:36 he would have done just that.
• 09:38 She will come and humble herself,
• 09:40 "Oh, my lord."
• 09:42 She knows how to talk to a man.
• 09:43 Oh, and by the way, when a man is upset,
• 09:46 it's not just a woman that have a calming effect,
• 09:48 but a woman that knows how to talk to a man.
• 09:51 She treats him respectfully, "Oh, my lord.
• 09:53 I'm your handmaiden.
• 09:55 Will you not but see this?"
• 09:56 She doesn't push him. She suggests.
• 09:59 She's tactful, diplomatic.
• 10:01 She knows how to calm down.
• 10:04 It's a great story. David doesn't forget it.
• 10:07 Later on, when her husband dies, when he hears of it,
• 10:11 David's gonna send for her and say,
• 10:13 "Listen, you know, can--how about a movie on Friday?"
• 10:17 He's going to want to strike up a chord.
• 10:19 I wanna look at the 25th chapter,
• 10:22 verse 32, and see what David says to her and,
• 10:25 by extension, we'd do well if this can be our attitude.
• 10:28 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 10:30 And David said to Abigail," in verse 32,
• 10:32 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 10:34 Blessed be the God of Israel.
• 10:37 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 10:41 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel,
• 10:43 who sent you this day to meet me."
• 10:46 Thank God for God. Thank God for you.
• 10:49 He's gonna go on to say to her,
• 10:50 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 10:52 He's going to say, "Blessed be your discretion."
• 10:56 Oh, Abigail, thank you.
• 10:57 "Blessed be the way that you think."
• 11:01 He's going to follow in verse 33:
• 11:03 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 11:04 and he's going to say, "Blessed are you."
• 11:08 David sees value, worth.
• 11:11 He honors her for what she was and what she contributed to him
• 11:17 and how she saved him from bringing harm upon himself.
• 11:22 He closes, and the way he closed
• 11:24 is the way I wanna close on this.
• 11:26 In verse 35, he's going to say unto her,
• 11:30 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 11:32 and David said to her,
• 11:33 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 11:35 Go in peace."
• 11:37 He's going to then say,
• 11:39 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 11:41 I have hearkened to your voice."
• 11:45 Kol is voice.
• 11:46 You know, the voice of prophecy, bat kol,
• 11:49 is considered feminine in a Hebrew understanding.
• 11:53 He's then going to say,
• 11:55 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 11:58 eponymous face.
• 12:00 Literally, "I have seen your face,
• 12:02 I have hearkened to your face."
• 12:04 That is, I have accepted thy person.
• 12:08 It's meritorious.
• 12:09 David looks at Abigail and he sees something special.
• 12:13 And what does he see to bring close?
• 12:14 He says to her, "Blessed be your voice," and he says,
• 12:20 "And I have accepted your person."
• 12:22 May it be that we males, the more so,
• 12:25 develop an appreciation for how women help us,
• 12:29 how they save us, how they help us bring things under control,
• 12:33 and may we honor them for so doing.
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• 13:02 extra content.
• 13:03 Find us at "Our Jewish Roots."
• 13:09 David: It is because of you that we're able to bring the
• 13:11 series to you.
• 13:13 It's all about women in this series and we just wanna say
• 13:17 Thank you for your support.
• 13:18 Kirsten: Huge thank you and I just wanna say a huge thank you
• 13:21 for Dr. Seif bringing this topic onto our program and he is going
• 13:27 to teach us about the Proverbs 31 woman and I have to be
• 13:31 honest, she's always rather intimidated me,
• 13:35 because it's hard to relate to the standards that she brings,
• 13:39 but I'm thankful for Jeff's insight.
• 13:41 I think you will be too.
• 13:43 Let's go to Israel to hear from Dr. Seif.
• 13:46 ♪♪♪
• 13:53 female: The trading had become profitable and the
• 13:55 harvest has yielded good crop.
• 13:58 All of this will surely benefit my family.
• 14:02 I wouldn't have been able to take on these extra tasks
• 14:05 without the love and support of my husband.
• 14:08 He has given me everything I've needed and more.
• 14:11 And now I want to give something back.
• 14:14 It feels so good to be needed, to know my contributions matter.
• 14:19 As busy as I am, I've never been happier and more fulfilled.
• 14:23 My workers have done well and are worth the hire and more.
• 14:27 As I have been blessed with increase,
• 14:29 so I would like to bless them as well.
• 14:35 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: In the modern world,
• 14:37 men leave home to go attend to life.
• 14:42 But 'twas not the case in the ancient world when so much of
• 14:45 life centered around the home.
• 14:48 In the modern world, the children go off and learn about
• 14:52 life in school and the men go off and attend to life at work.
• 14:56 But in the ancient world, the home was the center of
• 14:59 education, the home was the center of where the man worked,
• 15:03 and the woman was the head of the home.
• 15:07 What a home this was in ancient Israel.
• 15:10 Many attended to agricultural concerns.
• 15:13 But in conjunction with that, this woman has
• 15:16 a small business going.
• 15:18 She's a haberdasher, a seller of fine clothing.
• 15:22 Goodness, when I think of what's involved in the manufacture of
• 15:24 the clothing, or to come up with the dyes and then to spin the
• 15:28 fabrics, and then to cut them and tailor them into clothing,
• 15:31 it's quite an operation she's got going.
• 15:35 In Proverbs chapter 31, the author there says,
• 15:39 "A good woman is worth more than money in part because
• 15:41 she makes money."
• 15:43 She doesn't just make money, she makes life.
• 15:46 She's the lamp of the family, if you will,
• 15:49 because so much revolves around her.
• 15:52 The vision in ancient Israel for a woman wasn't to be some love
• 15:55 slave, simply to satisfy the pleasures of the males of the
• 15:59 species, who after finishing with her,
• 16:01 just goes on in life and finds other conquests.
• 16:04 No, the vision was that the woman would be so central in the
• 16:09 success of life, success for the males of the species.
• 16:12 This is evidenced in part by the testimony of someone who didn't
• 16:15 do so good, to tell you the truth.
• 16:18 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 16:20 Solomon, the king of Israel,
• 16:21 began his life seeking God and getting wisdom and he ended his
• 16:25 life returning to God, but his mind left him somewhere in the
• 16:29 middle at one level.
• 16:30 Here we have some closing comments in Proverbs which is a
• 16:34 testimony to the wisdom that he'd accrued over time,
• 16:37 and starts off,
• 16:38 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 16:40 The words of Lemuel the king--"
• 16:42 Now, there was no king in ancient Israel by that name.
• 16:45 Here, arguably, it's another name for Shlomo,
• 16:47 for Solomon.
• 16:49 Lem means toward, el as a suffix means God.
• 16:53 The words of a king who's inclining himself toward God.
• 16:56 Solomon began like this and he ended like this.
• 16:59 Here, he harks back to something his mother taught him.
• 17:03 I say that because the verse goes on,
• 17:06 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 17:08 The burden that his mother carried."
• 17:11 This isn't just his own wisdom, but he's parroting that which
• 17:16 his mother gave to him.
• 17:17 And what did she tell him?
• 17:19 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 17:22 Don't give your strength to women."
• 17:25 The issue here isn't to love a woman,
• 17:27 but rather, don't go after loose women.
• 17:30 Don't go after loose living.
• 17:32 Find a good woman, find a good wife,
• 17:34 because she'll do you good all the days of your life.
• 17:37 We'll attend to the story as we continue.
• 17:41 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Different men define success differently.
• 17:45 Some believe that life is about the acquisition of toys.
• 17:48 There's an old saying that the only difference between men and
• 17:51 boys is the price of their toys, and that means acquiring
• 17:55 material goods, that means acquiring women.
• 17:59 But some come to terms with the fact that there's no way to be
• 18:02 successful in life if you don't have a successor.
• 18:06 And when value is placed on successors,
• 18:09 then value is refocused on the home,
• 18:12 and then when value is focused on his home,
• 18:15 there's no way to come to terms with it without realizing the
• 18:19 inestimable value of a woman.
• 18:23 I believe that Solomon came to terms with this.
• 18:25 In fact, he is on record at the end of his life.
• 18:29 You know his story.
• 18:30 He squandered so much of his life pursuing women and this and
• 18:33 that, but eventually, he sobers up.
• 18:36 Proverbs 31 is a testimony to his sobriety as he,
• 18:40 from his wisdom, shares the essence of success in life in a
• 18:44 certain respect for a male, and in the process of so doing,
• 18:48 he then extols the virtue of a woman.
• 18:51 In Proverbs 31, we come upon an acrostic testament.
• 18:56 It's a poem to that effect and I wanna share some of it with you.
• 19:00 Beginning in verse 10, he says in Hebrew:
• 19:02 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 19:06 A woman of value," or a woman of virtue,
• 19:08 "who can find?"
• 19:10 It's not that she was nowhere to be found,
• 19:12 as much as it is that he was saying,
• 19:14 "Gentlemen, what you need to do is find someone just like this."
• 19:18 And he talks about the character that she possesses,
• 19:21 various characteristics that unfold in the literature.
• 19:24 Text says that she's worth more to him than rubies,
• 19:27 and that's true in part because what she's going to do is she's
• 19:30 going to bring wealth into the house.
• 19:32 She doesn't just spend it.
• 19:34 She is valuable, she's a worker, she's entrepreneurial,
• 19:38 and she contributes to the war effort that way and so many
• 19:41 other ones.
• 19:42 Verse 11 we're told that the heart of her husband trusts in
• 19:45 her and that she will have no lack of gain.
• 19:48 I love the word for gain here, in part because it's the same
• 19:51 word that's used in the Hebrew Bible for plunder.
• 19:57 What do I mean by that?
• 19:58 In Old Testament times, Israelite males would be called
• 20:01 upon to don helmet and sword and shield and
• 20:04 defend home and hearth.
• 20:06 They'd go off to war, and in the process of so doing,
• 20:08 by virtue of their being successful,
• 20:10 they would acquire goods.
• 20:13 They would come upon resources that were not their own but were
• 20:16 deemed the spoils of war.
• 20:19 When the text here says that she will bring gain to him,
• 20:23 it means she brings spoils of war--
• 20:25 that is, that she brings into the family system to the man
• 20:29 that which he is unable to get himself.
• 20:32 He didn't earn it himself, but it just comes at the testimony
• 20:35 to what she's all about.
• 20:37 Well, we go on.
• 20:38 In verse 16 we're told that she considers a field and buys it.
• 20:42 And this gives rise to the fact that this woman is a woman who
• 20:46 is empowered to make decisions.
• 20:48 She has hacham, she has smarts.
• 20:51 She's not just the love slave, she doesn't just sheepishly and
• 20:55 docilely follow the orders that her husband barks out,
• 20:59 but she's a woman of means, she's a woman of understanding,
• 21:02 and she's empowered within the family in order to make
• 21:05 family decisions.
• 21:06 And so she invests her energies and she brings wealth
• 21:09 into the family.
• 21:10 And not only that, in verse 20 we're told that she extends
• 21:13 herself to the poor, that she's just not all about herself.
• 21:17 She's successful, she acquires, and thus she has resource to
• 21:22 help those less fortunate than her.
• 21:25 Says elsewhere that she looks at the time to come without fear.
• 21:29 It's because of who she is and how she takes care of her
• 21:31 business, she has stability and security,
• 21:35 and is able to then to be more kindly disposed toward others.
• 21:38 We're told in verse 23 that her husband is "noted in the gate."
• 21:43 The gate, of course, is where the men would meet,
• 21:46 the elders, and the reason why he's noticed,
• 21:48 according to Rashi,
• 21:50 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 21:53 1040 to 1105 AD was a famous Jewish sage and he opined the
• 21:58 reason why he was known in the gates is because he was
• 22:01 so well dressed.
• 22:03 And the reason why he was so well dressed is because his wife
• 22:06 took care of him so well.
• 22:08 Again, you have a good wife here and she takes care of you.
• 22:11 You know, some have mistakenly said that a
• 22:13 dog is a man's best friend.
• 22:14 I think not.
• 22:17 If a man will treat a woman right,
• 22:19 a woman will be loyal to a man, and here
• 22:22 this man stands out by virtue of her attentions.
• 22:25 Well, the text goes on, and it closes on a beautiful note.
• 22:30 In verse 30,
• 22:31 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 22:35 Charm is deceitful, and beauty is vain,
• 22:40 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 22:44 but a woman who fears the LORD is to be praised."
• 22:49 She respects the Lord, she reverences him,
• 22:53 she walks under his guidance and care and by virtue of so doing,
• 22:58 this is a woman of great value.
• 23:01 And I love the way the text closes.
• 23:03 He says in verse 31,
• 23:06 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 23:09 Give her the fruit of her hands."
• 23:12 Hey, listen, we'd do well to find a woman like this and give
• 23:16 her the credit she deserves because a woman like this moves
• 23:21 the world and helps a man to be successful in this life.
• 23:29 David: I'm sure you've heard the term "your better half."
• 23:31 Well, that is the case for me, and I think for
• 23:34 you too, Dr. Seif.
• 23:36 We've got some good women in our lives to help us with
• 23:39 all that we do in our lives.
• 23:41 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Behind every good man
• 23:42 is a better woman.
• 23:43 Now, a lot of people on TV,
• 23:45 you know, they say things about their spouse but then when the
• 23:47 cameras are off, when it's just them,
• 23:49 they're fighting and bickering and going different directions.
• 23:51 You guys, you're a team.
• 23:53 My wife and I, we're a team.
• 23:54 You know, Barri, I say she's the way,
• 23:57 the truth, and the wife.
• 23:58 I mean, she is that Proverbs 31 type and I'm so blessed
• 24:01 to have her.
• 24:03 Kirsten: I am thankful for something that you brought to
• 24:05 light which I've never heard speaking of the Proverbs 31
• 24:09 woman, which to me has always seemed like who can even
• 24:13 get that high?
• 24:14 You just feel like you never can succeed like that,
• 24:17 you know, the gold standard, but I like what you said about her
• 24:20 being an entrepreneur, and I appreciate that.
• 24:23 That's almost a buzz word that women can relate to now,
• 24:28 for you saying about she buys a field and sells it.
• 24:31 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Right, she can roll up her sleeves and be
• 24:33 involved in the land of the living.
• 24:34 She's just not some love slave in the kitchen and in the
• 24:38 bedroom pregnant, you know?
• 24:39 That--and religious people falsely assign a role.
• 24:43 I think it says more about the people that are assigning the
• 24:46 role than it does about what biblical literature really
• 24:49 is saying.
• 24:50 If that's the idealized woman in biblical literature,
• 24:53 and it is, well then, she is.
• 24:57 She's got a lot going for her. She's a business woman.
• 24:59 She's a woman of means and brains.
• 25:02 She's just not beautiful, she's beautiful inside and out.
• 25:06 Kirsten: You had mentioned earlier in the program,
• 25:08 we learned about Abigail with David and where you
• 25:11 said she has brains.
• 25:12 Abigail was a smart girl because you also mentioned--
• 25:15 we listened to what you said, that women wanna be loved,
• 25:18 but men want to be respected.
• 25:20 That's good.
• 25:22 And David was respected by Abigail and that spoke volumes.
• 25:26 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Yeah, and it's interesting that Abigail's
• 25:27 husband, the name there alludes to fool.
• 25:30 You have the contrast there.
• 25:32 There's the brain in the woman and the pain in the man,
• 25:35 that, yeah.
• 25:37 It's a fantastic story.
• 25:40 You know, individuals look at the Bible and wanna paint the
• 25:42 picture of a woman being slotted a domestic,
• 25:45 servile, minimal role.
• 25:49 And while there are males of the species that are game to foist
• 25:52 that, that doesn't do justice to what biblical literature
• 25:56 actually is saying.
• 25:57 Kirsten: And I have to say, I did enjoy being pregnant.
• 26:01 I do enjoy being a wife, and I do enjoy my time in the kitchen.
• 26:04 But I also like the buying a field.
• 26:06 You know, and obviously you're saying,
• 26:07 like, a woman's role necessarily isn't being,
• 26:10 well, I'm not sure you'd say barefoot and pregnant,
• 26:12 and cooking, and that kind of thing,
• 26:13 but like, some women still do like that.
• 26:15 I love that, yeah.
• 26:16 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Yes, Barri has an MBA,
• 26:18 my wife, and she's very good at business.
• 26:22 She also has a PhD in biblical studies.
• 26:25 Now, that's my second time round marrying.
• 26:27 I lucked out twice.
• 26:28 My first wife, may she rest in peace,
• 26:30 died of ovarian cancer.
• 26:32 Patty had three graduate degrees.
• 26:34 She took care of the family finances, you know?
• 26:37 I mean, I'm a pretty strong guy, but I'm not some tyrant who runs
• 26:41 the castle.
• 26:43 You know, power is shared and you give her, her due.
• 26:48 And that's what the author of Proverbs 31 does and advocates
• 26:54 that we do as well: give her, her due.
• 26:57 Kirsten: That is a good partnership.
• 26:58 David: It is. We're not done with this series.
• 27:00 There's more women in the Bible, important women,
• 27:03 that we're gonna talk about, but it's time to go again.
• 27:06 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: We're done today.
• 27:07 See you next week.
• 27:08 Till then, Sha'alu shalom Yerushalayim.
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