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• 00:02 David Hart: On today's program, destruction was coming to Judah
• 00:04 because they had grown accustomed to living in sin.
• 00:07 The Lord called Jeremiah to sound the alarm.
• 00:11 Coming up next on "Our Jewish Roots."
• 00:19 male announcer: In the 6th century BC, one man stood
• 00:23 alone against the pervading wickedness of God's people
• 00:26 in the land of Judah.
• 00:29 The prophet Jeremiah was chosen by the Lord to warn of pending
• 00:33 judgment that would come at the hands of the Babylonians.
• 00:37 Visions of an exile left him heartbroken and in tears, but
• 00:42 Jeremiah remained faithful to his calling and recorded a
• 00:46 message that would speak to generations yet to come.
• 00:51 Standing tall, with faith in God, he understood better days
• 00:56 were coming, and there was hope over the horizon.
• 01:05 David: Thank you so much for joining us today.
• 01:06 I am David Hart.
• 01:08 Kirsten Hart: I'm Kirsten Hart.
• 01:09 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Jeffrey Seif.
• 01:10 David: So, in our first program, God called Jeremiah;
• 01:13 and in this program today, I think the people didn't think
• 01:16 he was so called; rejected?
• 01:18 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Yes, and speaking of program, it's our
• 01:22 program, of course; but really, we're offering a telling of
• 01:25 God's program, through Jeremiah, in our program called
• 01:29 "Our Jewish Roots."
• 01:31 And I use this book.
• 01:33 People might wonder, "Well, what is it?"
• 01:34 Well, it's a Bible that gives our Jewish roots, actually.
• 01:39 It's the Hebrew text that I'm working from, and the
• 01:42 traditional English rendering of the Hebrew, and then there's
• 01:46 various Jewish rabbinical commentary underneath it.
• 01:49 And I'm assimilating this and refracting it through a Jewish
• 01:53 believing in Jesus prism, and this is what we're bringing
• 01:56 to you, actually the way that the Hebrew people look
• 02:00 at the biblical testimony.
• 02:03 Kirsten: I absolutely love that you have highlighted
• 02:05 parts of your Bible.
• 02:08 That looks like the junior high Bible, or the Bible
• 02:10 I had in junior high.
• 02:12 It was yellow, orange, and then very few black letters.
• 02:15 I love it though.
• 02:16 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: I think that a dull pencil is better
• 02:18 than a sharp brain, and that is we underline, we make notes,
• 02:23 and it's the way that I study.
• 02:25 Kirsten: Yeah, I love it, it's great.
• 02:26 David: Dr. Seif, more teaching from you in a bit; but
• 02:28 right now, let's hear more of Jeremiah's story.
• 02:34 announcer: A backsliding, obstinate people had refused to
• 02:37 give ear to Jeremiah's voice of pending judgment.
• 02:41 And the Lord said to Jeremiah, "Sound the shofar in the land."
• 02:47 ♪♪♪
• 02:55 [Jeremiah speaking in Hebrew]
• 03:02 [male speaking in Hebrew]
• 03:06 [Jeremiah speaking in Hebrew]
• 03:16 [Jeremiah speaking in Hebrew]
• 03:26 [Jeremiah speaking in Hebrew]
• 03:35 [male speaking in Hebrew]
• 03:40 [Jeremiah speaking in Hebrew]
• 03:50 [Jeremiah speaking in Hebrew]
• 03:59 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: And Jeremiah said--
• 04:01 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 04:05 "Blow the trumpet in the land."
• 04:09 What did he have in mind?
• 04:11 Is it half-time at a football game?
• 04:13 Is it the drum and bugle corps?
• 04:15 Is it a jazz festival?
• 04:18 No, it is the trumpet of warning.
• 04:24 In his day, he wanted to broadcast warning, because
• 04:27 he saw trouble coming.
• 04:31 I want to look at what the components of the trouble were,
• 04:35 what precipitated that.
• 04:37 But first, if you will, you know, I did quote the Bible in
• 04:39 Jeremiah chapter 4, verse 5, where he says,
• 04:43 "Sound the trumpet."
• 04:45 I'm interested in who sounds the trumpet today.
• 04:48 Used to be the church gave an alarm.
• 04:52 That's muted, you know.
• 04:53 Culture says you can't talk about politics.
• 04:55 Used to be media, but even then I don't know if you can
• 04:59 trust that all the time.
• 05:00 And I'll get that in a moment.
• 05:03 We want to sound the alarm to be sure.
• 05:05 And what was the alarm in Jeremiah's day?
• 05:09 He says in chapter 4, verse 6, he says--
• 05:13 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 05:20 The Lord says, "I will bring trouble from the north--"
• 05:25 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 05:28 "A great destruction."
• 05:31 What a tough word to come from such a tenderhearted man.
• 05:38 What seemed to be the problem?
• 05:43 Well, he noted it previously in the text in chapter 4, verse 2.
• 05:50 There he's swearing, "As the Lord lives."
• 05:53 Here's what was wrong. He says--
• 05:56 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 05:58 "In truth--"
• 06:00 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 06:02 "In justice--"
• 06:05 [speaking in Hebrew]
• 06:07 "In righteousness."
• 06:10 What was lacking in the world?
• 06:13 Truth, justice, and righteousness.
• 06:19 That was his day.
• 06:22 But can I just ask you the question rhetorically?
• 06:24 Isn't that so much like our own day, as well?
• 06:31 You can pick up a newspaper or listen to a radio,
• 06:34 watch television to get the news, but the news
• 06:37 is colored by all kinds of hues.
• 06:41 The coloration of it sometimes obfuscates the story;
• 06:46 that is, it blurs it.
• 06:47 It hides it.
• 06:49 And I don't know today if we can trust across the board that our
• 06:53 news really is giving us the news, but rather it's giving us
• 06:59 political views driven by particular agendas.
• 07:06 And what about justice?
• 07:09 We hear justice for this person, justice for that.
• 07:13 Justice is a really good thing, and I believe we should stand
• 07:19 for it, and I believe we should decry injustice.
• 07:25 There should be no place for it.
• 07:28 If you look at our founding documents and our culture,
• 07:31 that there's a premium on justice for all, and
• 07:35 that should be held inviolate.
• 07:39 But quite frankly, I'm not sure that justice today itself or the
• 07:44 language of what's just, equitable, and fair isn't
• 07:48 succumbing to all kinds of political intrigue with the
• 07:52 net result that there's injustice that is parroted
• 07:56 in the name of justice.
• 07:59 And then there's this little thing called righteousness.
• 08:05 We live in a world today where it is in very high demand,
• 08:08 but very short supply.
• 08:11 To be sure, it relates to justice, but it harks to a kind
• 08:14 of piety, as well, that was lacking in Jeremiah's day,
• 08:19 because people were morally rudderless.
• 08:23 It reminds me of our own day, to be sure.
• 08:27 To review, then, what were the sins that invoked the
• 08:32 ire of the Lord in the text?
• 08:35 There's the lack of truth then, as today; the lack of justice
• 08:41 then, as today; the lack of righteousness then, as today.
• 08:49 Oh, this prophet saw trouble in the forefront, but he also saw,
• 08:55 as we will see, good news over the horizon.
• 09:05 [Jeremiah speaking in Hebrew]
• 09:15 [Jeremiah speaking in Hebrew]
• 09:25 [Jeremiah speaking in Hebrew]
• 09:32 ♪♪♪
• 09:37 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: I've told my wife on more than one occasion,
• 09:40 for the next few years I don't want to cue
• 09:42 into the news too much.
• 09:44 Why is that?
• 09:45 Because I'm not expecting anything good.
• 09:51 I say that because Jeremiah, in his own words, said much the
• 09:57 same when he was reflecting on the events in his world
• 10:02 in chapter 10.
• 10:04 He says, "But I said, 'This is sickness.'"
• 10:10 And I think of that, too.
• 10:13 I'll explore the reason for that a little bit, as
• 10:16 he gives a window into it.
• 10:19 But he looked at the world that he lived in, and he said,
• 10:22 "This is sickness."
• 10:25 But he didn't just say that, he said that, and he followed,
• 10:30 "And I must bear it."
• 10:34 In effect, it was the cross he carried.
• 10:40 And I tell Barri, "You know, I think we have to
• 10:42 carry much the same today."
• 10:44 A lot of godly people, similarly, are saying
• 10:46 it's a sick world.
• 10:48 We're going to have to walk through it, and pray through it,
• 10:52 and see what God might do in it, because there's always hope, but
• 10:57 the problem is the problem.
• 11:01 And to give voice to the problem, if you look in chapter
• 11:04 10 of Yirmeyahu, of Jeremiah, verse 14, I'll read it
• 11:10 in the Hebrew first.
• 11:11 It's not exactly the way the English works with syntax,
• 11:15 but I'll give it to you.
• 11:16 He says, [speaking in Hebrew]
• 11:21 These people are brutish, or they're dull-hearted.
• 11:25 They're not seeing things crisply, and
• 11:29 they're without knowledge.
• 11:33 That's what he's saying in the literature.
• 11:37 I don't know if you've encountered people like that.
• 11:40 I know Jeremiah is encountering people like that in his day.
• 11:43 I've encountered people like that in my day, people
• 11:46 that just don't seem to get it.
• 11:49 They don't seem to be thinking clearly.
• 11:52 In another world, as a police officer, I've had opportunity to
• 11:56 be dispatched to a call for service, something out in the
• 11:59 streets, something in a home.
• 12:01 Someone is severely inebriated, they're intoxicated.
• 12:05 And I think, what's the point in trying to reason with them.
• 12:08 They're not gonna get it anyway, number one; and number two, even
• 12:11 if they get it, they're going to forget it, because
• 12:14 they're lacking capacity.
• 12:18 This prophet gives voice to the fact that there's a lack
• 12:21 of capacity, a kind of dullness, and it's spiritual.
• 12:26 It comes as a result of living in sin so long, they just don't
• 12:30 know the left hand from the right.
• 12:32 There's a wound, there's a sickness, and the righteous were
• 12:37 told they have to just endure it for the season.
• 12:44 The analogy of sickness is employed in Jeremiah, as
• 12:49 elsewhere in the older testament.
• 12:52 Jeremiah is explicit in saying, listen,
• 12:54 "Is there no balm in Gilead?"
• 12:57 That is to say, "Is there no medicine for it?"
• 13:01 Indeed, there is.
• 13:03 The problem is people just don't want to take the medicine.
• 13:08 They don't want to see the problem, never mind take
• 13:11 a look at the solution.
• 13:15 We live in a world today where there's so much blindness.
• 13:18 To me, it's amazing, and I just feel--
• 13:20 and I tell Barri, we just have to endure it.
• 13:23 To me, there's a kind of sickness that's
• 13:25 prevalent in the culture.
• 13:27 People just don't want to hear truth.
• 13:30 They'd rather just live a delusion.
• 13:33 The net result is there's a judgment coming.
• 13:36 And here in the heart and mind of the prophet, he's not
• 13:39 an angry soul, I should say.
• 13:42 He's more hurt, he's more sad than he is angry, but he sees
• 13:47 there's pain, there's anguish; and for the time being,
• 13:51 we're gonna have to bear it.
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• 16:30 David: Right now, Dr. Michael Brown is our guest teacher.
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• 16:37 Dr. Michael Brown: Jeremiah really was a sensitive soul.
• 16:40 As I studied his life for a period of years, writing a
• 16:43 commentary on Jeremiah, one thing that struck me--
• 16:45 because you think of his boldness.
• 16:47 You think of his courage.
• 16:49 You think maybe he was just this kind of tough and rough guy.
• 16:52 But really, he was very sensitive, and it seems in some
• 16:56 passages, like in the 15th chapter, he's lamenting, and it
• 17:00 feels as if he's saying, "God, when I really needed you,
• 17:05 when I was really hurting, you weren't there."
• 17:08 It seems as if he feels, more than anything, let down by God,
• 17:13 and he openly says it.
• 17:15 But what's fascinating is God knows who the real man
• 17:18 is on the inside.
• 17:20 And rather than speaking a word of comfort and saying,
• 17:23 "Oh, Jeremiah, I know you're going through a hard time, and I
• 17:26 know it hurts," do you know that the Lord says to him?
• 17:29 "If you repent, I'll still use you."
• 17:32 Why didn't he say, "I don't want to be used, I want out"?
• 17:35 But God knew what was inside the soul of Jeremiah.
• 17:38 And often, that's the way it is with us.
• 17:41 You know, we're waiting for God to kind of come with this little
• 17:43 word, "And I know it's hard, and you're going to make it."
• 17:47 Instead, he says, "Be strong. Be courageous.
• 17:49 I have a calling on your life."
• 17:51 There's often more of God inside of us than we realize,
• 17:54 and more backbone inside of us than we realize.
• 17:57 So, like Jeremiah, many of us may be sensitive souls,
• 18:01 and may be hurting, and may be feeling, "God, where were
• 18:03 you at the toughest times?"
• 18:05 But when you read the whole of the book, and you see the
• 18:08 triumph, you see God knows our limitations, and God meets us
• 18:11 at our weakest and most hurting moment.
• 18:14 ♪♪♪
• 18:21 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Jeremiah was a tender soul.
• 18:25 I've mentioned this elsewhere in this series,
• 18:27 and I'll speak of it again.
• 18:29 I mention it here because I want to alight upon the way
• 18:32 that he speaks about women.
• 18:36 I say this because if you look at the way women were treated in
• 18:40 the northern kingdom of Israel, which was destroyed over
• 18:43 100 years prior, women were more degraded in the southern kingdom
• 18:50 and certainly in Jeremiah's world.
• 18:53 Women are more extolled.
• 18:55 All the more the image here, when Yirmeyahu, where the
• 18:59 prophet in chapter 4, verse 31, he hears "kol bat Zion,"
• 19:07 he hears the voice of the daughter of Zion,
• 19:12 [speaking in Hebrew] in Hebrew,
• 19:14 in anguish, in anguish.
• 19:18 The verse reads, [speaking in Hebrew]
• 19:21 "I've heard the voice of the daughter of Zion in anguish."
• 19:30 It's a woman overwhelmed with pain that he uses to describe
• 19:38 what's coming upon Judah.
• 19:42 But the image of travail that's employed here is used elsewhere
• 19:48 in Jeremiah; but it's not only used in Jeremiah, but the
• 19:52 imagery is picked up in the newer testament, as well.
• 19:57 For when you think of a woman in travail--and I don't want to be
• 20:00 so bold to speak casually about women's experience in
• 20:04 childbirth, because I know nothing of it, other than
• 20:07 being an observer to it.
• 20:10 I can't speak of it with any experience, other than
• 20:13 seeing it, but I do know that out of the pain
• 20:18 comes something pleasurable.
• 20:21 There's new life that emerges out of the difficulties.
• 20:27 And I mention this here 'cause the prophet sees a woman
• 20:30 in travail, in anguish, screaming forth, but he is
• 20:35 going to give voice to the new birth that's going to come
• 20:38 of it, the new beginnings.
• 20:40 In the Matthew gospel, chapter 2, you might recall the story
• 20:44 of Rachel, who's crying over her dead, is used to envision
• 20:52 something prophetically that's happening with the coming of
• 20:55 Jesus in the city of Bethlehem.
• 20:58 I trust you're familiar with the story in chapter 2,
• 21:01 verses 17 and 18.
• 21:03 The Matthean author, Matthew, is harking to a story in Jeremiah,
• 21:09 where he's using that prophetic text of travail to point ahead
• 21:13 to very new beginnings.
• 21:17 Oh, to be sure, it's a tough story to tell, when we look at
• 21:20 Jeremiah, and we need to tell it, and we will.
• 21:24 It's a tough story.
• 21:25 But we, as the prophet, see hope over the horizon.
• 21:33 ♪♪♪
• 21:42 Kirsten: This is only the second program in our series,
• 21:45 and we have so much more to come, but I've gotta say, today,
• 21:49 the girls got a little shout-out, didn't we?
• 21:51 He was talking about women. So were you.
• 21:54 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Well, more than a shout-out.
• 21:55 Let's go with scream-out, to tell you the truth, likening to
• 21:58 what God is all about in the world to a woman in travail.
• 22:02 I can't presume to know what that's all about.
• 22:04 You tell us.
• 22:05 Kirsten: It is not fun in the process.
• 22:08 I've had--we've had children with an epidural and without.
• 22:13 I've had one, our first one, without anything.
• 22:15 And you feel the birth pains, but it's all
• 22:20 worth it in the end.
• 22:23 David: You almost didn't want it to happen, at first, but then
• 22:26 it happened, and you're good.
• 22:28 Kirsten: Right, and it's all worth it to hold that child, but
• 22:31 those warning signals, signs, they're painful, kind of, but--
• 22:35 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: I mean, the-- is it real--I mean honest
• 22:36 and true, is it really like that once the baby is placed in your
• 22:40 arms afterward, it's all good?
• 22:41 I mean, you feel--
• 22:43 Kirsten: No, it still hurts; it's beautiful, and it's
• 22:46 wonderful, but you still have remnants of that pain
• 22:51 for quite a while.
• 22:52 It's kind of interesting, in Jeremiah, if I can correlate or,
• 22:56 you know, parallel what I went through giving birth, with what
• 23:00 Jeremiah was talking about, he was giving warning signals
• 23:05 of something's coming, and it's painful.
• 23:09 But Jeremiah always balances it out with, "But there's hope.
• 23:13 There's something good at the end of it."
• 23:16 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: And it's interesting, too:
• 23:17 Jesus employs the Jeremiah story in the Matthean text,
• 23:20 the gospel of Matthew.
• 23:22 It's just fascinating to look at women's experience being pivoted
• 23:26 from in the biblical text.
• 23:27 God is sensitive toward women, particularly the fact that God's
• 23:32 purposes in the world come through pain.
• 23:36 We don't like that, but it's like that in nature.
• 23:38 It's like that in Scripture.
• 23:40 It's just like that in human experience.
• 23:42 David: I know, back in the day, they didn't want
• 23:44 to hear the bad news.
• 23:45 Yesterday in our hotel room, I turned the TV on.
• 23:49 First thing on the news, I had to turn it right off,
• 23:51 because it was so bad.
• 23:53 We don't want to hear the bad news today, and we forget about
• 23:55 that hope for the future.
• 23:56 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Well, that was Jeremiah's problem, to tell you
• 23:58 the truth; every time he turned on the Fox News,
• 24:00 it wasn't any good, it was bad on CNN.
• 24:02 Kirsten: He was Fox News, wasn't he; he was the voice.
• 24:05 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: No matter who was talking about it, who
• 24:07 was spinning, it was just bad to the bone, his world.
• 24:11 And what a tough place to be.
• 24:13 But he saw God was gonna bring something new.
• 24:16 David: He saw it, but did the people see it?
• 24:18 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: No, all they saw was chagrin.
• 24:20 The leaders expressed chagrin, because he poked them in the
• 24:25 eye, you know.
• 24:26 He called them out on it.
• 24:28 He called them out on their fake news.
• 24:31 Kirsten: Right, and I think, I think this is maybe my personal
• 24:33 opinion, that the Jewish people thought, "We've got the temple.
• 24:38 We're good. We're good to go.
• 24:40 We've still got the holy of holies.
• 24:41 We're fine. God's with us."
• 24:43 When he was saying, "No, no, no, you're not following
• 24:45 any of our covenant together."
• 24:47 "But we're good to go. We've still got the temple."
• 24:49 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: You're right, it's explicit in the literature.
• 24:51 They were saying, "Well, God's temple is here."
• 24:53 You know, Jeremiah says, "Don't be so comfortable
• 24:55 in sticks and bricks.
• 24:56 You have to have the right kind of living to go
• 24:58 along with the worship."
• 24:59 And they had too little of both, to tell you the truth,
• 25:02 back in his day.
• 25:04 Kirsten: A lot of things, sometimes--can I say, without
• 25:06 getting in trouble with all of you--I think the church
• 25:08 has the same thing.
• 25:09 I think, you know what? Junior high, went up to camp.
• 25:11 I accepted the Lord as my personal Savior.
• 25:13 I'm good to go. I can do whatever I want now.
• 25:15 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Right, you know, I go to church.
• 25:17 There's 168 hours in a week.
• 25:18 It's good to see someone in the house with two.
• 25:20 What's life all about the other 166, you know?
• 25:23 Kirsten: We tend to put down Jewish people at that time,
• 25:26 but I think we're right in the same boat.
• 25:28 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: No, but, you know, God, he puts them down.
• 25:30 He lifts them up. And that's your point.
• 25:32 It's Jeremiah's point.
• 25:33 You see something being born even out of the
• 25:35 anguishing moments.
• 25:37 Kirsten: True. More to come next week, right?
• 25:38 David: Yes, thank you for your insight today.
• 25:40 So much more in this series. It's time to end.
• 25:43 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Yes, it is. Thanks for watching.
• 25:45 As you go now, [speaking in Hebrew]
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