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• 00:47 SHALOM, HELLO AGAIN.
• 00:49 LET ME INTRODUCE MY WIFE, SANDRA.
• 00:52 SHE HEADS UP SOME OF OUR TOURS AND PROBABLY SOME OF YOU RECOGNIZE HER.
• 00:57 ON THIS PROGRAM SHE'LL BE INTERVIEWING AN INTERESTING PERSONALITY,
• 01:01 CALEV MYERS, A MESSIANIC BELIEVER IN JERUSALEM.
• 01:05 HE'S AN ISRAELI, HE'S A PASTOR AND HE'S AN ATTORNEY
• 01:09 WHO HELPS OTHER MESSIANIC BELIEVERS WITH IMMIGRATION PROBLEMS AND SO ON.
• 01:15 HE'S VERY GOOD AT THIS AND SOMEBODY NEEDS HIS HELP, HE IS AVAILABLE.
• 01:20 SO, NOW TO SANDRA AND OUR GUEST, CALEV MYERS.
• 01:26 WELCOME, CALEV TO ZOLA LEVITT PRESENTS.
• 01:28 WE ARE DELIGHTED TO HAVE YOU WITH US.
• 01:30 I THINK YOUR STORY IS TERRIFIC.
• 01:33 YOU ARE A PASTOR, AN ATTORNEY, AN ISRAELI, YOU'VE SERVED IN THE ISRAELI ARMY.
• 01:39 YOU HAVE A FAMILY HERE.
• 01:40 HOW DID YOU BECOME A PASTOR?
• 01:41 HOW DID YOU GET TO ISRAEL?
• 01:43 WE IMMIGRATED TO ISRAEL, WHEN I SAY "WE", THAT'S MY MOTHER, FATHER AND 5 CHILDREN.
• 01:49 THERE'S ACTUALLY 6 CHILDREN IN OUR FAMILY, BUT 5 OF US IMMIGRATED WITH THEM IN 1992.
• 01:54 WE CAME TO ISRAEL BECAUSE WE LOVE ISRAEL.
• 01:57 WE'RE A VERY ZIONISTIC FAMILY.
• 01:59 WE HAPPEN TO BE JEWS WHO BELIEVE IN YESHUA AS THE MESSIAH
• 02:04 AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WE STARTED JUST AS A FAMILY,
• 02:08 A SMALL HOME MEETING GATHERING ON SHABBAT WHERE WE WOULD MEET TOGETHER AND PRAY
• 02:15 AND LEARN FROM THE WORD OF GOD AND THAT EVENTUALLY GREW INTO A CONGREGATION.
• 02:19 OVER THE LAST 14 YEARS WE'VE GROWN SLOWLY, BUT SURELY
• 02:24 AND MY FATHER, WHO USED TO BE IN BANKING BECAME THE HEAD PASTOR OF OUR CONGREGATION
• 02:32 AND NOW I SERVE WITH HIM AS A PASTOR ON STAFF.
• 02:35 SO, CALEV, IS THE CONGREGATION ALL MESSIANIC,
• 02:38 IS IT MESSIANIC BEING BELIEVING JEWS OR IS IT A MIX OF PEOPLE?
• 02:42 TELL ME ALL ABOUT THAT.
• 02:44 WELL, IT STARTED AS JUST OUR FAMILY, 7 OF US.
• 02:48 THEN SLOWLY, BUT SURELY OTHER PEOPLE STARTED JOINING US,
• 02:51 ALL OF THEM JEWISH, ISRAELIS, BELIEVERS IN YESHUA.
• 02:57 OF COURSE, OUR DOORS ARE OPEN TO GENTILE BELIEVERS IN YESHUA THAT WANT TO WORSHIP WITH US.
• 03:03 THERE ARE MANY CHRISTIAN, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW AROUND THE WORLD
• 03:05 THAT RECOGNIZE THE JEWISH ROOTS OF THEIR FAITH AND CHRISTIANS LIKE THAT
• 03:09 THAT DO THEIR VOLUNTEER WORK IN ISRAEL UNDER OTHER AUSPICES
• 03:13 SOMETIMES LIKE TO WORSHIP WITH US AND SO OUR CONGREGATION IS A MIX.
• 03:18 WE'RE NOT 100% OF PEOPLE FROM A JEWISH BACKGROUND, BUT THE MAJORITY OF ARE.
• 03:22 NOW, YOU HAVE A CHURCH. >>YES.
• 03:23 DO YOU MEET ON SATURDAY, DO YOU MEET ON FRIDAY NIGHT?
• 03:26 IS IT IN JERUSALEM?
• 03:27 TELL ME ABOUT THIS.
• 03:29 WE MEET ACTUALLY ON MOTZAY SHABOT, SATURDAY EVENING,
• 03:32 SATURDAY EVENING.
• 03:33 IN JERUSALEM IT'S EASIER JUST PURELY FROM A TRANSPORTATION PERSPECTIVE
• 03:37 BECAUSE NO BUSES RUN ON SHABOT DURING THE DAY, EVERYTHING SHUTS DOWN.
• 03:41 SO, ON SATURDAY EVENING WE MEET TOGETHER.
• 03:43 NOW, YOU SERVED IN THE ARMY.
• 03:44 DID YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS ALL SERVE IN THE ARMY ALSO?
• 03:47 THE 5 OF US THAT IMMIGRATED HAVE SERVED IN THE ARMY.
• 03:51 WOW.THAT'S AMAZING.
• 03:53 IT'S NOT JUST HAVE SERVED, PAST TENSE,
• 03:56 EVERY ISRAELI CITIZEN, MALE, HAS TO CONTINUE AND SERVE IN THE ARMY IN RESERVE DUTY
• 04:01 UNTIL THE AGE OF 45 AND SO, I ACTUALLY STILL DO UP TO 24 DAYS OF RESERVE DUTY A YEAR.
• 04:06 DID YOU GO TO SCHOOL HERE?
• 04:07 YES, I STUDIED, I FINISHED HIGH SCHOOL IN THE STATES.
• 04:10 AFTER THE ARMY, I WENT TO HEBREW UNIVERSITY AND ENDED UP DOING A LAW DEGREE AT HEBREW UNIVERSITY.
• 04:20 I GUESS I'M GOING BACK TO SOMETHING YOU SAID.
• 04:22 WAS IT HARD FOR YOUR FAMILY TO MAKE ALIYAH?
• 04:25 DID THEY KNOW YOU WERE MESSIANIC OR HEBREW BELIEVERS?
• 04:29 DID YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS GETTING IN?
• 04:31 WE DON'T WALK AROUND WITH A BIG FLAG THAT SAYS "MESSIANIC JEWS".
• 04:36 WE SERVE THE LORD IN THE HUMBLE WAY THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO SERVE THE LORD.
• 04:44 IT BECOMES OBVIOUS TO PEOPLE THAT WE'RE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT
• 04:47 JUST BECAUSE OF OUR BEHAVIOR.
• 04:49 THEN OF COURSE, WE ARE VERY OPEN TO EXPLAINING TO PEOPLE
• 04:53 WHY WE ARE DIFFERENT AND WHAT WE BELIEVE.
• 04:55 SO, WAS IT DIFFICULT TO IMMIGRATE?
• 04:58 WHEN A PERSON KNOWS THAT THEY'RE IN THE CENTER OF GOD'S WILL,
• 05:03 THEN THEY HAVE THE FAITH TO GO THROUGH ANY DIFFICULTY THAT COMES ALONG.
• 05:08 THERE'S A PEACE.
• 05:10 INCLUDING SERVING IN THE ARMY OR STUDYING A FOREIGN LANGUAGE AND EVERYTHING THAT COMES ALONG,
• 05:14 GIVING UP FRIENDS AND RELATIONSHIPS AND MOVING TO A FOREIGN COUNTRY
• 05:18 AND STARTING EVERYTHING ANEW, THAT'S RIGHT, YOU HAVE A PEACE.
• 05:20 YOU KNOW, I'M IN THE CENTER OF GOD'S WILL EVEN IF THINGS BECOME DIFFICULT AND TOUGH,
• 05:24 I'M GOING TO PUSH THROUGH BECAUSE HE'S GOING TO HELP ME THROUGH THOSE DIFFICULTIES
• 05:27 AND SO THAT'S, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT FAITH IS ALL ABOUT.
• 05:31 CALEV, I LOVE THE STORY OF HOW YOU CAME TO YOUR LAW FIRM AND YOU WERE INTERVIEWING WITH THEM
• 05:35 TO BECOME ONE OF THEIR ATTORNEYS AND YOU SAID TO THEM,
• 05:38 "I AM GOING TO BE THE RELIGION AND HAVE THE RELIGION THAT I'M GOING TO DO"
• 05:43 I LOVE THAT, I THINK THAT IS SUCH A BOLD THING TO SAY,
• 05:47 ESPECIALLY WHENYOU'RE IN AN INTERVIEW.
• 05:49 WELL, I BELIEVE WE NEED TO BE VERY DIRECT ABOUT WHO WE ARE.
• 05:52 ONCE THE ENEMY GETS US INTO A CORNER
• 05:55 THINKING THAT WE HAVE TO HIDE WHO WE ARE, WHAT WE BELIEVE,
• 05:58 THEN THERE'S NO END TO THAT AND WE'LL ALWAYS BE PRETENDING
• 06:01 AND WE'LL ALWAYS BE WONDERING WHAT THE OTHER PERSON KNOWS ABOUT ME, ETC.
• 06:05 I THINK GOD BLESSES DIRECTNESS.
• 06:06 SO, THE REASON THAT I EXPLAINED TO THE PEOPLE WHO WERE INTERVIEWING ME,
• 06:10 THEN I WAS ACTUALLY A PRE-INTERN.
• 06:13 I WAS STILL, I WAS IN MY THIRD YEAR OF LAW SCHOOL.
• 06:17 THIS IS A VERY LARGE CORPORATE FIRM IN JERUSALEM.
• 06:21 THE REASON I TOLD THEM THAT I WAS A BELIEVER IS BECAUSE THEY ASKED ME,
• 06:27 DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WORKING VERY LONG HOURS?
• 06:30 I SAID I UNDERSTAND THAT IN A CORPORATE LAW FIRM THAT YOU WORK VERY LONG HOURS
• 06:33 AND I'M VERY WILLING TO DO THAT, BUT EVERY TUESDAY AND THURSDAY, I'M GOING TO LEAVE A 6 O'CLOCK
• 06:37 BECAUSE I HAVE A MEETING THAT I HAVE TO GO TO.
• 06:39 WHAT'S THE MEETING YOU HAVE TO GO TO?
• 06:41 WELL, I'M INVOLVED IN A MESSIANIC JEWISH CONGREGATION AND I TEACH AND I STUDY
• 06:45 AND I LEARN AND I'M NOT GOING TO MISS THAT NO MATTER WHAT.
• 06:48 THE MAN WHO WAS INTERVIEWING ME IS AN ORTHODOX JEW.
• 06:51 HE'S A SENIOR PARTNER OF THE FIRM, THE MAN THAT I ENDED UP DOING INTERNSHIP WITH
• 06:56 AND HE HAD NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
• 06:58 HE RESPECTED THAT AND THAT WAS IT.
• 07:00 BUT, I BELIEVE THAT GOD BLESSES US WHEN WE'RE VERY DIRECT AND STATE WHO WE ARE,
• 07:04 WHAT WE BELIEVE AND DON'T GET NERVOUS OR GIVE THE OTHER PERSON
• 07:10 THE FEELING LIKE WE'RE TRYING OR EMBARRASSED ABOUT SOMETHING.
• 07:13 RIGHT, AFRAID, ARE WE AFRAID OF OUR FAITH?
• 07:16 SO, NOW, CALEV, YOU ARE IN A LAW FIRM.
• 07:19 YOU'RE PRACTICING LAW.
• 07:21 YOU'RE HAVING A BIG TIME WITH THE CORPORATE WORLD
• 07:23 AND SOMETHING HAPPENS AND CHANGES YOUR PERCEPTION ABOUT IMMIGRATION
• 07:27 AND REALLY TAKES YOUR LIFE IN A WHOLE DIFFERENT DIRECTION
• 07:31 AS FAR AS THINKING ABOUT IMMIGRATION AND HELPING PEOPLE.
• 07:34 WHAT HAPPENS THERE?
• 07:36 WELL, WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH LAW SCHOOL, I WAS VERY AWARE OF THE PROBLEMS
• 07:39 THAT CERTAIN BELIEVERS HAVE IN ISRAEL REGARDING CIVIL RIGHTS
• 07:43 AND STATUS IN THE MINISTRY OF INTERIOR, IMMIGRATION, ETC.
• 07:47 I REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH.
• 07:51 OF COURSE NOT.
• 07:53 BECAUSE, FIRST OF ALL, I DIDN'T SEE IT AS A GREAT WAY THAT I COULD MAKE A LIVING
• 07:56 AND IT JUST WASN'T AN AREA OF LAW THAT INTERESTED ME.
• 08:01 I STUDIED BUSINESS AND TAXATION AND CORPORATE LAW, ETC.
• 08:05 THOSE WERE THE AREAS THAT I SPECIALIZED IN.
• 08:06 BUT, THERE WAS A PERIOD OF TIME ABOUT 3 YEARS AGO
• 08:11 WHERE THE MINISTRY OF INTERIOR STARTED SYSTEMATICALLY TRYING TO CALL IN MINISTERS,
• 08:18 MESSIANIC JEWISH MINISTERS AND RAISING QUESTIONS
• 08:21 AND INTERROGATING THEM ABOUT THE WAY THAT THEY IMMIGRATED TO ISRAEL,
• 08:25 AND OF COURSE TRYING TO GIVE THEM PROBLEMS REGARDING THEIR CITIZENSHIP
• 08:30 AND THIS DID HAPPEN WITH MY FAMILY.
• 08:34 IT REALLY SPARKED SOMETHING IN MY HEART
• 08:37 THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ON A WIDER SCALE THAN THIS.
• 08:40 THERE NEEDS TO BE AN EXPOSURE OF THE SYSTEMATIC UNLAWFUL TREATMENT
• 08:44 OF MESSIANIC BELIEVERS IN ISRAEL.
• 08:47 SO, I INITIATED A PROJECT, NOT ONLY ON THE LEGAL LEVEL,
• 08:53 BUT REALLY A LOBBYING PROJECT WHERE WE WERE EXPOSING,
• 08:59 LET'S SAY, A NEGATIVE EXPOSURE, BUT ALSO POSITIVE EXPOSURE.
• 09:04 WE ARE EXPOSING THE NEGATIVE TREATMENT TOWARDS MESSIANIC JEWS IN THE MINISTRY OF INTERIOR
• 09:10 AND OTHER PUBLIC OFFICE AND WE WERE ALSO EXPOSING THE POSITIVE SIDE OF THE COMMUNITY,
• 09:15 THAT WE'RE PEOPLE WHO JUST LOVE ISRAEL, WE WANT TO LIVE HERE IN PEACE, SERVE IN THE ARMY,
• 09:20 PAY OUR TAXES, EDUCATE OUR CHILDREN.
• 09:22 WE'RE NOT A STRANGE MISSIONARY CULT THAT'S OUT TO KIDNAP CHILDREN
• 09:26 AND DO MASS BAPTISMS IN THE SEA OF GALILEE.
• 09:29 THESE ARE QUITE CONTRARY TO THE PURPOSES OF OUR COMMUNITY IN ISRAEL
• 09:36 AND SO LET US LIVE IN PEACE AND QUIET AND LET'S NOT AUTOMATICALLY AGREE WITH
• 09:43 OR RECEIVE THE VICIOUS PROPAGANDA THAT'S BEEN SPOKEN ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY
• 09:47 THROUGHOUT THE YEARS ON THE POLITICAL MEDIA LEVEL.
• 09:50 YOU KNOW, I FIND IT SO AMAZING THAT IN ISRAEL YOU CAN BE A SECULAR JEW,
• 09:54 YOU CAN BE A BUDDHIST JEW, YOU CAN BE AN ATHEIST JEW,
• 09:59 YOU CAN BE ANY KIND OF JEW EXCEPT MESSIANIC
• 10:02 AND I JUST FIND THAT SO UNFAIR AND SO WRONG.
• 10:05 THAT'S TRUE.
• 10:07 THERE IS A PROBLEM THAT WE CAN'T IGNORE, WHICH IS A VERY UGLY HISTORY OF CHURCH PERSECUTION.
• 10:13 RIGHT, I AGREE.
• 10:14 TOWARDS JEWS OVER THE LAST MANY CENTURIES.
• 10:19 SO THERE IS A PROBLEM THAT WE CAN'T IGNORE,
• 10:23 BUT WE NEED TO EXPLAIN THAT THE TRICK IS GETTING PEOPLE THAT ARE WILLING TO SIT DOWN AND LISTEN,
• 10:31 WE NEED TO EXPLAIN THAT WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT PERSECUTION
• 10:35 AND PEOPLE WHO CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS AND PERSECUTED JEWS
• 10:39 HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH TRUE CHRISTIANITY.
• 10:41 THAT IS CORRECT.
• 10:43 OR WITH YESHUA, WHO YESHUA TRULY WAS.
• 10:45 PEOPLE WHO ACCUSED THE JEWS OF CRUCIFYING, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE THE CRUCIFERS OF CHRIST,
• 10:50 WELL, THEY'RE FORGETTING THAT CHRIST WAS A JEW HIMSELF.
• 10:53 SO THEY REALLY LOST TOUCH WITH WHAT IT MEANT TO BE A TRUE CHRISTIAN
• 11:00 AND SO WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM.
• 11:02 BUT, THE PROBLEM IS THAT MANY PEOPLE DON'T EVEN WANT TO LISTEN TO THAT
• 11:07 BECAUSE ALL THEY'RE TOLD IS THAT CHRISTIANS ARE EVIL PEOPLE,
• 11:11 THAT THEY PERSECUTED US OVER THE CENTURIES AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
• 11:16 SO, ANYONE THAT'S JEWISH AND COMES TO BELIEVE IN YESHUA
• 11:21 IS REALLY BETRAYING US AND THIS IS SOMETHING, OF COURSE, WHICH ISN'T TRUE.
• 11:28 THAT'S REALLY WHAT OUR STORY IS AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO EXPLAIN
• 11:33 AND OUR MESSAGE THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET OUT.
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• 12:19 READING PACKETS, TEACHING CASSETTES AND MAIL-IN TESTS.
• 12:22 YOU MAY WANT TO JOIN US ON AN UPCOMING TOUR OF ISRAEL, GREECE
• 12:25 OR THE HOLY LAND EXPERIENCE THEME PARK IN ORLANDO, FLORIDA.
• 12:29 PLEASE CONTACT US FOR MORE INFORMATION.
• 12:34 HAVE YOU SEEN THE PROMISED LAND, WHERE THE DISCIPLES CAST THEIR NETS,
• 12:40 WHERE JESUS GAVE THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT, WHERE ROMAN COLUMN STILL STAND,
• 12:50 WHERE THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS WERE FOUND, WHERE BIBLE PROPHECY IS BEING FULFILLED?
• 12:59 OPEN YOUR EYES TO ISRAEL.
• 13:04 WELL, THERE'S ISRAEL.
• 13:05 YOU KNOW, YOU COULD GO WITH SANDRA.
• 13:07 SHE ALWAYS TAKES OUR JUNE TOUR, WHICH IS VERY POPULAR ESPECIALLY WITH TEACHERS AND STUDENTS.
• 13:12 IT'S A LOWER PRICE AND WE STAY AT KIBBUTZ AND PLACES LIKE THAT
• 13:16 AND WE GO TO DO AN ARCHAEOLOGICAL DIG, WHICH IS REALLY SOMETHING.
• 13:20 WE CALL IT THE DISCOVERY TOUR, SO YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR THAT.
• 13:24 SANDRA GOES ON WITH HER INTERVIEW WITH CALEV MYERS.
• 13:29 REALLY, YOU HAVE TO HAND IT THIS FELLOW.
• 13:31 HE'S AN ATTORNEY, BUT HE DOES THIS WORK "PRO BONO", WITHOUT FEES.
• 13:35 PEOPLE SUPPORT HIM AND HE TAKES CARE OF THE MESSIANICS OVER THERE.
• 13:38 DON'T THINK THEY'RE ALL MALIGNED OR PUSHED AROUND.
• 13:41 SOME OF THEM HAVE A VERY GOOD LAWYER.
• 13:43 NOW, BACK TO THAT INTERVIEW.
• 13:45 I LOVE THE STORY THAT ZOLA TELLS.
• 13:47 I ALWAYS LAUGH AT IT.
• 13:49 HIS FATHER USED TO SAY ABOUT THE CHRISTIANS, "OH, THEY HAVE THEIR RELIGION, IT KEEPS THEM QUIET."
• 13:53 I THINK THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF JEWS THINK THAT CHRISTIANITY IS,
• 13:57 IF THEY JUST GIVE THEM THEIR RELIGION, IT WILL LEAVE THE JEWS ALONE,
• 14:00 IT WILL MAKE THE HAPPY AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT MESSIANICS WANT TO DO.
• 14:04 I THINK THAT MESSIANICS WANT TO LIVE IN ISRAEL,
• 14:07 BE HAPPY IN ISRAEL, HAVE A JOB, SERVE IN THE ARMY,
• 14:10 CONTRIBUTE TO THE SOCIETY OF ISRAEL.
• 14:13 I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT MESSIANICS WANT TO DO.
• 14:15 THAT'S RIGHT.
• 14:16 THIS PROJECT THAT I WAS EXPLAINING EARLIER
• 14:20 STARTING GAINING MOMENTUM
• 14:23 AND MANY BELIEVERS STARTED COMING TO ME FOR HELP,
• 14:26 TO TAKE CARE OF PROBLEMS THAT THEY HAD IN THE MINISTRY OF INTERIOR, UNLAWFUL TREATMENT.
• 14:30 AT THE TIME, I ACTUALLY TOOK A STUDENT AND CALLED EVERY SINGLE CONGREGATION IN ISRAEL
• 14:34 THAT I WAS AWARE OF THEIR EXISTENCE TO TALK WITH LEADERS
• 14:37 AND TO FIND OUT ABOUT SPECIFIC PROBLEMS THE FAMILY HAD IN THE MINISTRY OF INTERIOR.
• 14:41 AT THAT TIME, I DOCUMENTED ABOUT 25 CASES OF WHAT I WOULD DESCRIBE AS UNLAWFUL TREATMENT,
• 14:48 SO WE JUST STARTED TAKING CARE OF THOSE CASES CASE BY CASE ON A "PRO BONO" BASIS.
• 14:53 MANY OF THE FAMILIES, EVEN IF THEY WANTED TO,
• 14:56 THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO AFFORD QUALITY LEGAL ADVICE
• 14:59 AND SO WE STARTED REPRESENTING THEM AND I FOUNDED AN ORGANIZATION CALLED
• 15:05 "THE JERUSALEM INSTITUTE OF JUSTICE"
• 15:07 AND HAVEN'T DONE VERY WIDESPREAD FUND RAISING,
• 15:11 BUT I DO SOME FUNDRAISING THROUGH FRIENDS SUCH AS YOU
• 15:15 WHO ARE WILLING TO CONSIDER HELPING US.
• 15:18 I'VE BEEN ABLE ACTUALLY OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF
• 15:22 TO TAKE CARE OF AROUND 45 CASES, 45 FAMILIES.
• 15:28 YOU KNOW, THERE'S CERTAIN REGULATIONS IN ISRAEL WHEREBY A PERSON'S FILE CAN BE MARKED.
• 15:34 IT'S MARKED AS SOMEBODY WHO'S DANGEROUS TO THE STATE OF ISRAEL
• 15:38 AND THIS IS DONE OF COURSE, TO PROTECT US FROM SECURITY THREAT FROM WITHIN AND WITHOUT.
• 15:42 SO, THE ULTRA-RELIGIOUS WERE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT METHOD.
• 15:48 THERE ARE CERTAIN GROUPS CALLED "ANTI-MISSIONARY" ORGANIZATIONS THAT WORK IN ISRAEL.
• 15:53 THEY'RE WRITING LETTERS TO THE MINISTRY OF INTERIOR
• 15:54 AND THESE ARE ACTUALLY LETTERS THAT I'VE SEEN IN FILES OF PEOPLE
• 15:57 THAT SAID WE WANT TO NOTIFY YOU THAT MR. MYERS IS A MISSIONARY.
• 16:02 HE'S A DANGER TO THE EXISTENCE OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL, PLEASE MARK HIS FILE.
• 16:06 SO, MY FILE, THIS DIDN'T ACTUALLY HAPPEN TO ME, BUT THE FILE WOULD BE MARKED,
• 16:12 WHICH SAYS THIS PERSON CANNOT RECEIVE SERVICE FROM THE MINISTRY OF INTERIOR
• 16:17 BECAUSE THERE'S SUSPICIONS AND THAT PERSON WOULD NOT RECEIVE ANY SERVICE WHATSOEVER
• 16:21 WHETHER IT WAS RENEWING A PASSPORT,
• 16:22 WHETHER IT WAS REGISTERING A CHILD ON THE DAY OF ITS BIRTH,
• 16:25 WHETHER IT WAS REGISTERING A MARRIAGE, THEY WOULDN'T RECEIVE ANY SERVICES WHATSOEVER
• 16:29 UNTIL IT WAS CLEARED THROUGH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
• 16:31 SO, IF A NORMAL CITIZEN CAME AND A PASSPORT RENEWAL WOULD TAKE 7 DAYS,
• 16:35 FOR A MESSIANIC BELIEVER IT COULD TAKE 7 MONTHS AND NOBODY UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS
• 16:40 BECAUSE THIS WAS ALL TAKING PLACE BEHIND THE SCENES.
• 16:45 SO, I'VE BEEN ABLE TO EXPOSE THAT AND RECENTLY THROUGH MY EFFORTS,
• 16:52 THE NEW MINISTER OF INTERIOR WHO'S FROM THE LABOR PARTY
• 16:56 ACTUALLY PUBLICLY STATED ABOUT 2 MONTHS AGO THAT CLERKS IN THE MINISTRY OF INTERIOR
• 17:03 WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO RECEIVE LETTERS FROM UNAUTHORIZED ORGANIZATIONS
• 17:10 AND MAKE DECISIONS BASED THEREUPON
• 17:11 IN ORDER TO CUT THAT UNLAWFUL DISCRIMINATION AGAINST BELIEVERS.
• 17:16 WHERE DO YOU SEE IT GOING?
• 17:17 I THINK IT'S GETTING BETTER.
• 17:19 I THINK IT'S GETTING BETTER
• 17:20 BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE WIDER PUBLIC,
• 17:23 AGAIN THE VICIOUS PROPAGANDA THAT'S BEEN CREATED AGAINST OUR COMMUNITY IS, IN MY OPINION,
• 17:29 FROM A VERY SMALL FRINGE GROUP OF ULTRA-RELIGIOUS, PREJUDICED PEOPLE,
• 17:37 BUT THE PUBLIC AT LARGE CAN'T DENY OUR TESTIMONY,
• 17:43 THE PEOPLE WHO WORK WITH US, THE PEOPLE WHO SERVE WITH US IN THE ARMY,
• 17:46 THE PEOPLE WHO STUDY WITH US IN SCHOOL, THEY SEE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY UPSTANDING CITIZENS
• 17:50 AND PEOPLE WHO KNOW ME KNOW THAT I'VE NEVER TRY TO FORCE MY FAITH DOWN ANOTHER PERSON'S THROAT.
• 17:55 IF YOU'RE INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT I BELIEVE, I'LL SHARE WITH YOU OPENLY,
• 17:59 BUT I'M NOT OUT TRYING TO CONVINCE YOUR CHILDREN OR TRYING TO CONVINCE HELPLESS PEOPLE
• 18:05 THAT THEY NEED TO BELIEVE IN SOMETHING ELSE.
• 18:09 AND SO OUR TESTIMONY SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS
• 18:12 AND I THINK THAT OUR TESTIMONY IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE APPARENT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC
• 18:18 AND THERE'S MORE AND MORE OPENNESS TO, FIRST OF ALL, OUR EXISTENCE IN ISRAEL
• 18:22 AND JUST LEAVING US ALONE AND LETTING US LIVE IN ISRAEL LIKE EVERY OTHER JEWISH FAMILY,
• 18:28 JEWISH INDIVIDUAL THAT WANTS TO LIVE IN ISRAEL.
• 18:32 YOU KNOW, CALEV, IT'S JUST NOT MUCH DIFFERENT, I THINK THAN THE FIRST CENTURY.
• 18:36 YOU HAVE TO THINK THAT THE FIRST BELIEVERS WERE PERSECUTED AND, SAY THEY WANTED A PASSPORT
• 18:41 OR A BUSINESS OR ANYTHING OR MARRIAGE LICENSE, YOU KNOW THEY HAD TO BE PERSECUTED.
• 18:46 AS WE'RE TOURING IN ISRAEL, WE HAVE A SAYING, "THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN".
• 18:50 THIS IS TRUE.
• 18:52 BUT, IF WE GO BACK EVEN FURTHER THAN THAT, IT WAS THE GENTILES,
• 18:58 ALL THE ORIGINAL BELIEVERS, OF COURSE, WERE JEWISH.
• 19:02 THEY WEREN'T TOO SURE THAT GENTILES COULD ENTER INTO THIS,
• 19:04 THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
• 19:05 SO THEY WERE "PERSECUTED" AGAIN BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDN'T,
• 19:10 CAN THESE GENTILES ACTUALLY BECOME PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.
• 19:13 IT'S JUST INTERESTING THE WAY THAT THE TABLES TURN AND NOW THE SITUATION IS QUITE THE OPPOSITE.
• 19:21 CALEV, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE AT HOME WANT TO KNOW, HOW CAN WE HELP YOUR MINISTRY?
• 19:24 THIS IS A GREAT STORY, YOU'RE DOING A WONDERFUL JOB.
• 19:27 WHAT CAN WE DO FOR YOU?
• 19:30 YOU CAN PRAY FOR ME. >>ABSOLUTELY.
• 19:33 I'D BE VERY GLAD IF YOU WOULD SUPPORT THE EFFORTS OF
• 19:39 "JERUSALEM INSTITUTE OF JUSTICE".
• 19:41 I'VE GIVEN YOU THE INFORMATION IF PEOPLE WANT TO SUPPORT THAT,
• 19:44 IT'S ALL DONE ABOVE BOARD THROUGH A TRUST FUND THAT'S DOCUMENTED
• 19:50 AND EVERY DOLLAR ACTUALLY GOES TO HELP THE POOR AND NEEDY
• 19:52 AND NOBODY IS GETTING WEALTHY OR RICH OFF OF THIS.
• 19:57 YOU WORK FOR A GREAT LAW FIRM.
• 19:58 WELL, THAT'S TRUE.
• 20:00 I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW, CALEV, ANYTHING WE CAN DO FOR YOU, WE'LL BE GLAD TO DO FOR YOU.
• 20:06 I KNOW THAT MANY OF OUR VIEWERS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY KIND OF DONATIONS TO YOUR MINISTRY
• 20:10 THAT WE WILL BE GLAD TO PASS THEM ON TO YOU.
• 20:12 I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
• 20:14 I JUST WANT TO STRESS ONE THING AND THAT IS
• 20:17 THIS ORGANIZATION IS NOT AN ANTI-GOVERNMENT OR ANTI-ISRAEL ORGANIZATION.
• 20:21 ABSOLUTELY NOT.
• 20:23 MANY CHRISTIANS WHO SUPPORT ISRAEL ARE NERVOUS ABOUT GETTING INVOLVED
• 20:26 OR SUPPORTING A FUND LIKE THIS, BUT OUR VISION IS REALLY TO BLESS ISRAEL
• 20:31 AND TO WORK WITHIN THE SYSTEM AND BY ALLOWING BELIEVERS TO LIVE IN ISRAEL,
• 20:35 BELIEVERS WHO ARE GOING TO SERVE IN THE ARMY AND SUPPORT OUR GOVERNMENT
• 20:37 AND PRAY FOR OUR PRIME MINISTER AND BLESS OUR PRIME MINISTER,
• 20:40 WE'RE REALLY FOR THE NATION AND THAT'S NOT ONLY TRUE IN THEORY,
• 20:44 BUT ACTUALLY I WORK, I WAS RECENTLY NOMINATED AS THE LEGAL ADVISOR
• 20:52 TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE SOCIAL WELFARE FUND OF THE KNESSET.
• 20:56 SO, I'M WORKING WITH KNESSET MEMBERS ON AN ONGOING BASIS.
• 20:59 I'M IN THE KNESSET TWO OR THREE DAYS A WEEK.
• 21:02 I'M VERY, PART OF THE SYSTEM
• 21:04 WE'RE NOT STANDING FROM AFAR, THROWING STONES AT THE GOVERNMENT
• 21:07 AND SAYING YOU'RE NOT RIGHT AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS EVIL.
• 21:10 WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS WITHIN THE SYSTEM THAT NEED TO BE READJUSTED,
• 21:14 SO THAT YOUR DESIRE FOR TRUE DEMOCRACY IN ISRAEL CAN TAKE PLACE
• 21:19 AND EVERY CITIZEN CAN BE TREATED IN A FAIR AND A JUST WAY.
• 21:23 SO, YOU DON'T NEED TO BE NERVOUS
• 21:26 THAT AM I SUPPORTING AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S ANTI-ISRAELI GOVERNMENT?
• 21:29 THAT'S NOT THE CASE WHATSOEVER.
• 21:33 LEGAL IS LEGAL AND FAIR IS FAIR.
• 21:35 ISRAEL IS A DEMOCRACY.
• 21:37 IT IS THE ONLY DEMOCRACY IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
• 21:39 IF YOU CAN DO SOMETHING TO HELP MAKE THE CHANGES THAT ARE NECESSARY,
• 21:44 THEN I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS THINKING THAT YOU ARE ANTI-GOVERNMENT.
• 21:47 I THINK IF ANYTHING, YOU ARE TRULY A MAN OF GOD, I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR VISITING WITH US.
• 21:54 I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.
• 21:55 ♪♪
• 22:03 ♪PROMISED, BY JEHOVAH THROUGH ♪HIS PROPHETS,
• 22:10 ♪HOW THEY WEPT FOR YOU ♪MY ISRAEL, ISRAEL, ISRAEL.
• 22:25 ♪IN THAT DAY THE LORD WILL COME ♪AND ALL WILL BOW BEFORE THE ♪THRONE OF HE WHO IS THE KING.
• 22:38 ♪ISRAEL, THE PROMISED LAND ♪WILL SEE HIS KINGDOM COME.
• 22:47 ♪♪
• 23:28 ♪IN THAT DAY THE LORD WILL COME ♪AND ALL WILL BOW BEFORE THE ♪THRONE OF HE WHO IS THE KING.
• 23:41 ♪ISRAEL, THE PROMISED LAND ♪WILL SEE HIS KINGDOM COME.
• 23:54 ♪♪
• 24:09 WELL, CALEV IS DOING A GOOD JOB OVER THERE
• 24:11 AND HIS "JERUSALEM INSTITUTE",
• 24:14 IF YOU WANT TO DESIGNATE A GIFT FOR HIM WE'LL SEND IT OVER THERE TO HIM
• 24:17 AND THE MESSIANICS WILL THAT MUCH BETTER REPRESENTED.
• 24:22 I GET LETTERS FROM PEOPLE SAYING THAT THE ISRAELIS ARE PICKING ON THE MESSIANICS AND SO ON.
• 24:28 YOU KNOW, THEY DO.
• 24:30 SOME OF THE ORTHODOX GET PUSHY AND AGGRAVATING.
• 24:33 BUT, IT'S LIKE ONE GUY WROTE THIS LONG LETTER THAT SAID
• 24:36 YOU CONCEAL THE FACT THAT THERE'S THIS STRIFE AND SO ON.
• 24:40 I TOLD THEM, LOOK, I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS NEWS THAT UNBELIEVERS PICKED ON BELIEVERS.
• 24:45 THIS STARTED WITH CAIN AND ABEL AND IT'S STILL GOING ON.
• 24:49 DON'T UNBELIEVERS IN THIS COUNTRY PICK ON BELIEVERS?
• 24:52 GOODNESS SAKE, HAVE YOU EVER HEARD THAT.
• 24:53 THE LORD SAID YOU WILL HAVE PERSECUTION AND SO YOU DO.
• 24:57 BUT, I WILL GIVE YOU REST, HE SAID.
• 24:59 THERE WAS A CASE IN AROD, A DESERT TOWN WHERE THE MESSIANICS HAD WORKED UP A CHESS CLUB
• 25:07 THAT WERE GIVING OUT PAMPHLETS AND SO ON AND THE ORTHODOX COME CRASHING IN.
• 25:11 THERE WAS LOTS OF--, I MEAN NOBODY WAS REALLY HURT.
• 25:14 BUT, I'M NOT DEFENDING, BOTH SIDES, THE ORTHODOX ESPECIALLY, IT'S NO REASONING WITH THEM.
• 25:23 THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MESSIANICS BELIEVE IN, NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON.
• 25:27 THEY'RE A LITTLE JEALOUS OF THEIR OWN BELIEFS
• 25:31 THAT THESE PEOPLE WALK AROUND WITH BIBLES AND A SMILE ON THEIR FACES,
• 25:35 GIVE BEAUTIFUL TESTIMONIES AND GET PEOPLE SAVED.
• 25:38 THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO MAKE OF IT SO THEY STRIKE OUT AGAINST IT AND SO ON.
• 25:42 BUT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THAT'S DEMOCRACY, THAT'S HOW IT WORKS, IT'S HOW IT WORKS HERE.
• 25:47 IT'S HOW IT WORKS IN OTHER DEMOCRACIES.
• 25:49 YOU WANT ABSOLUTE ORDER, MOVE TO HAVANA OR BEIJING OR SINGAPORE.
• 25:55 THERE ARE PLACES IN THE WORLD WHERE NOTHING GOES WRONG,
• 25:58 BUT, THAT'S BECAUSE THE COPS ARE ALWAYS RIGHT THERE.
• 26:00 THESE PEOPLE ARE FREE TO OBJECT.
• 26:03 SOME OF THEM DO OBJECT.
• 26:04 BUT, WITH ALL THAT SAID, THERE ARE MATTERS WITH THE GOVERNMENT LIKE IMMIGRATION OF MESSIANICS
• 26:12 OR PEOPLE GETTING SUMMARILY FIRED FROM A JOB
• 26:17 BECAUSE THEY TAKE UP THE FAITH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
• 26:20 THAT'S WHERE THE HEROES LIKE CALEV MYERS COME IN AND IN THIS COUNTRY FOR THAT MATTER.
• 26:26 WE HAVE CHRISTIAN LAWYERS DEFENDING CHRISTIAN PEOPLE
• 26:27 AGAINST ALL KINDS OF ACCUSATIONS.
• 26:30 I JUST THINK IT'S SOMETHING GOOD THAT'S GOING ON.
• 26:35 I DIDN'T HIDE THE STORY.
• 26:38 I HAD RUN THE STORY.
• 26:40 IT WAS CALLED "CHECKMATE"
• 26:41 AND I TOLD THE GUY WHERE HE COULD FIND IT IN OUR DECEMBER LEVITT LETTER.
• 26:45 SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALAYIM PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.