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Episode: “The Scapegoat”
Again using the Fort Worth Stockyards as a backdrop, Joshua and Caleb look at the use of sheep in the Bible. The most famous of all, the Scapegoat, has a connection with the Day of Atonement.

Caption transcript for “The Scapegoat”

  • 00:01 Caleb Colson: Coming up on "Our Jewish Roots." Joshua Colson: I thought you hated shooting in Texas. I thought for sure we would be on our way to Israel or
  • 00:09 something right now. Caleb: Yom Kippur has a part of a ceremony called the
  • 00:11 Scapegoat Ceremony.
  • 00:12 Joshua: Okay, alright, look at you, brother.
  • 00:14 Okay, finally starting to acclimate to the
  • 00:17 Texas lifestyle.
  • 00:18 Caleb: And a lot of people get this confused, because they
  • 00:20 think that Yeshua is the scapegoat.
  • 00:23 Joshua: If I look at the sheep, they're still guilty, just like
  • 00:26 the nation of Israel and Yom Kippur.
  • 00:28 Caleb: This outer darkness is where people go after the
  • 00:31 judgment of the sheep and goats.
  • 00:33 ♪♪♪
  • 00:45 David Hart: Thank you so much for joining us today.
  • 00:47 As you can tell, we are at a different location.
  • 00:51 Both of us are in Orlando, and we teach usually from Israel.
  • 00:56 A little different today, guys.
  • 00:58 Hello, where are you at today?
  • 01:00 Joshua: We are back at Caleb's favorite place on earth, where
  • 01:04 the west begins, cow town, Texas, because Caleb couldn't
  • 01:08 get enough of the goats, and apparently after I showed him
  • 01:11 there was biblical goat stuff, he decided to find more goats in
  • 01:14 the Bible to talk about.
  • 01:15 Caleb: There are more goats in the Bible, it's very important.
  • 01:17 We have a lesson on the scapegoat to talk about today
  • 01:20 and the great Day of Atonement.
  • 01:22 Kirsten Hart: Alright, let's go to the stockyards in Fort
  • 01:25 Worth, Texas.
  • 01:26 David: Deep in the heart of Texas.
  • 01:28 Here we go.
  • 01:31 ♪♪♪
  • 01:37 Joshua: I don't get it.
  • 01:40 I thought you hated shooting in Texas?
  • 01:41 I thought for sure we would be on our way to Israel or
  • 01:43 something right now when you said you wanted to shoot
  • 01:45 another episode.
  • 01:46 What are we still doing in the stockyards?
  • 01:47 Caleb: Alright, your episode on the Judas goat was pretty cool,
  • 01:50 so I thought we'd take an opportunity to do kind of a
  • 01:52 follow up lesson, Juda's goat,
  • 01:54 it's time to meet the scapegoat.
  • 01:57 Joshua: There's another goat?
  • 01:58 Caleb: Let's go.
  • 01:59 Joshua: I wanna see another goat.
  • 02:03 ♪♪♪
  • 02:10 ♪♪♪
  • 02:18 Joshua: Okay, alright, look at you, brother, okay, finally
  • 02:21 starting to acclimate to the Texas lifestyle.
  • 02:24 Picking up some nuances and things that he's okay
  • 02:26 with, yeah.
  • 02:27 Caleb: I still hate Texas, strongly dislike Texas, no
  • 02:33 offense, Texans.
  • 02:38 Caleb: Look at these beautiful animals here, Josh.
  • 02:40 These are not goats.
  • 02:42 Joshua: Oh, I was about to say those are giant goats.
  • 02:43 Caleb: No, no, they're not giant goats, cue the screen.
  • 02:46 Look at these goats, guys, these goats look evil.
  • 02:49 You can't trust them.
  • 02:50 Look at this little slit in their eyes.
  • 02:52 Just name the crime, they are guilty of it.
  • 02:55 They are stubborn, they are selfish, they are headstrong,
  • 02:58 they will eat absolute, absolutely anything, and once
  • 03:01 they have made up their mind, there's nothing you can do to
  • 03:04 stop them.
  • 03:05 Joshua: I had no idea that you're such a bigot when it
  • 03:07 came to goats.
  • 03:08 Caleb: I'm sorry.
  • 03:09 Joshua: It's okay.
  • 03:11 See, goats and sheep may look the same, but they're very
  • 03:12 different in the way they process things.
  • 03:14 Sheep are followers, they need to follow somebody.
  • 03:17 They'll travel in flocks together, even going off a cliff
  • 03:20 if one sheep does, but they need a shepherd.
  • 03:23 Not just any shepherd, they need the Good Shepherd, Yeshua.
  • 03:27 That's a giant goat.
  • 03:29 Caleb: That's not a giant goat.
  • 03:33 Caleb: John 10:14-16 says, "I am the good shepherd.
  • 03:37 I know My sheep and My sheep know Me, just as the Father
  • 03:40 knows Me and I know the Father, and I lay down My life for
  • 03:44 the sheep.
  • 03:45 I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen.
  • 03:48 I must bring them also.
  • 03:50 They too will listen to My voice, and there shall be one
  • 03:53 flock and one shepherd."
  • 03:56 Joshua: This is definitely 1800's.
  • 03:59 Caleb: I don't think we're both supposed to go in at once.
  • 04:01 Oh, my goodness.
  • 04:03 Joshua: What do we do now?
  • 04:04 How'd you get out?
  • 04:06 Caleb: This way?
  • 04:07 Joshua: Oh, oh, it's so small.
  • 04:14 Joshua: When Yeshua was on the earth, he was the shepherd to
  • 04:16 the Jewish people.
  • 04:18 So, in John 10:16 when he talks about other sheep, he's talking
  • 04:21 about the nations of the Gentiles.
  • 04:23 And this all hearkens, this all puts the focus on the judgment
  • 04:26 of the sheep and goats, which is at the conclusion of the Yom
  • 04:29 Kippur, the great Day of Atonement, the last day of
  • 04:32 the tribulation.
  • 04:34 Caleb: And we wanna look at Yeshua's prophetic fulfillment
  • 04:37 of the great and terrible Day of the Lord to better understand
  • 04:39 the significance of the sheep and goats.
  • 04:42 It's very important, guys, that Yom Kippur has a part of a
  • 04:45 ceremony called the scapegoat ceremony, and a lot of people
  • 04:48 get this confused because they think that Yeshua is
  • 04:50 the scapegoat.
  • 04:52 This is not entirely accurate, guys.
  • 04:54 Parts of this feast were fulfilled, but its ultimate
  • 04:56 fulfillment is yet to come.
  • 04:58 So, we want to look at how Yeshua foreshadows all the seven
  • 05:01 feasts, so we can better understand its significance.
  • 05:04 Take a look at this.
  • 05:06 Joshua: That smells like a scapegoat.
  • 05:09 Caleb: Now, God gave the children of Israel seven holy
  • 05:11 convocations, feasts, festivals, that point his people to
  • 05:16 their Messiah.
  • 05:17 The first four feasts were fulfilled in Yeshua's death on
  • 05:19 Passover, his burial on Unleavened Bread, his
  • 05:22 resurrection on First Fruits, and the Holy Spirit poured out
  • 05:26 on Pentecost, Shavuot.
  • 05:27 Although the spring feasts have been accomplished, we wait for
  • 05:31 the fall feasts, the fall harvest to be completed with
  • 05:33 Yeshua's rapture of his bride on Rosh Hashanah, the Feast of
  • 05:36 Trumpets, his second coming on Yom Kippur, Atonement, and the
  • 05:40 Millennial Reign with Sukkot, the Feast of Tabernacles.
  • 05:43 FYI, guys, Shabbat is a feast if you will, but an outlier in
  • 05:47 which Messiah becomes our Sabbath rest, fulfilled
  • 05:50 completely upon our glorification.
  • 05:54 Joshua: Brother, brother, come quick.
  • 05:57 Brother, I found a scapegoat.
  • 05:59 I got him, brother.
  • 06:00 He's trying to buck me, brother.
  • 06:02 Caleb: Josh, that's not a goat.
  • 06:04 Joshua: It's not a goat?
  • 06:06 Caleb: No.
  • 06:07 Joshua: You sure?
  • 06:08 Caleb: Get off, you're gonna break it for the kids.
  • 06:15 Joshua: So, let's talk about the great Day of Atonement,
  • 06:18 Yom Kippur.
  • 06:19 Now, this is very important, because this deals with the
  • 06:22 national sins of Israel.
  • 06:24 Now, they have to be taken care of.
  • 06:26 Each one of us is responsible personally for forgiveness of
  • 06:30 sins, repenting, moving forward, but as a nation, there was that
  • 06:33 one day that the nation had to repent for its sins.
  • 06:36 You see, it was the sins of the nation brought on by
  • 06:39 the leadership.
  • 06:40 If the leadership had been in sin, if the king was in sin, the
  • 06:44 president was sinning, then the entire nation was placed under a
  • 06:48 curse, not just the individual.
  • 06:49 Caleb: That's true, Josh.
  • 06:51 And we see this over and over again in Scripture, with the
  • 06:53 kingdoms of Israel and Judah as our prime examples.
  • 06:57 We see when the righteous were even living within their
  • 07:00 borders, prophets and good men of God, if the leadership was
  • 07:03 wicked and they were in charge, then enemy nations would come
  • 07:06 and attack Israel.
  • 07:07 You had Aram, Egypt, Philistia, Babylon, Assyria, and that's
  • 07:12 because when the leadership was wicked, God would remove his
  • 07:16 hand of protection over the country, and that curse would be
  • 07:20 enacted, and an enemy would come and would torment
  • 07:22 the people.
  • 07:24 We read about this in Proverbs 29:2.
  • 07:26 "When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice.
  • 07:29 But when a wicked man rules, the people groan."
  • 07:36 Guys, Israel as a nation needed atonement, and this is different
  • 07:39 from the atonement we receive personally when we accept Yeshua
  • 07:43 into our hearts.
  • 07:44 National Israel needed help, and you know, it says in Scripture
  • 07:48 prophetically that the whole house of Israel will not be
  • 07:51 saved until the last day of the tribulation, day 2520.
  • 07:54 You guessed it, this is on Yom Kippur.
  • 07:56 This is when the whole house of Israel is saved, but it's not
  • 08:00 until the fullness of the Gentiles is complete.
  • 08:03 Romans 11:25-27 says, "For I do not desire, brethren, that you
  • 08:08 should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise
  • 08:11 in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened
  • 08:14 to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.
  • 08:18 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written, 'The deliverer
  • 08:22 will come out of Zion, and he will turn away ungodliness
  • 08:25 from Jacob.
  • 08:26 For this is my covenant with them when I take away
  • 08:28 their sins.'"
  • 08:30 Joshua: Why does it take so long to bring salvation to
  • 08:32 national Israel?
  • 08:33 Well, I'll tell you why.
  • 08:35 Yeshua had to give them a chance to make the choice, and
  • 08:38 unfortunately they rejected him.
  • 08:40 Well, maybe at least the leadership rejected him,
  • 08:43 not everybody.
  • 08:44 At this time, he used this opportunity to go to the other
  • 08:48 sheep, to reach out to the Gentiles so that the Gentiles
  • 08:52 would want to choose him.
  • 08:53 And when Israel saw these Gentiles choosing him, it would
  • 08:57 incite a jealousy inside them which would push them towards
  • 09:01 him as well.
  • 09:04 Joshua: Romans 11:11-12, "But through their fall to provoke
  • 09:08 them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles.
  • 09:11 Now if their fall is riches for the world, and their failure
  • 09:14 riches for the Gentiles, how much more their fullness?"
  • 09:17 Verse 15, "For if they're being cast away is the reconciling of
  • 09:21 the world, what will their acceptance be but life from
  • 09:24 the dead?"
  • 09:28 Caleb: And life from the dead is referring to the conclusion of
  • 09:31 the great and terrible Day of the Lord.
  • 09:34 This is after the judgment of the sheep and goats, but to
  • 09:37 understand that sacrifice that occurred on Yom Kippur, we
  • 09:41 really need to look to the origins of it in Leviticus 16
  • 09:44 when it was instituted.
  • 09:45 And the details that surrounded it are very important.
  • 09:49 You know, the high priest, Aaron at that time, Moses's brother,
  • 09:53 had a very specific set of rules that he had to follow.
  • 09:55 First, he had to make himself clean and his family clean by
  • 09:59 taking a bull which was a sin offering for him and his house.
  • 10:03 Then he had to offer a burnt offering by way of a ram.
  • 10:06 This is very interesting, because it parallels that ram
  • 10:09 that was caught in the thicket that Abraham offered as a
  • 10:11 substitute for Isaac.
  • 10:13 Then he could offer a ram as a burnt offering for the entire
  • 10:17 nation of Israel.
  • 10:19 Now, a sin offering for the nation of Israel was different.
  • 10:22 It wasn't a bull like he had to offer for himself, it was a
  • 10:25 pure goat.
  • 10:26 However, two were selected, very interesting, and Leviticus
  • 10:30 16:7-9 says, "He, Aaron, shall take the two goats and present
  • 10:35 them before the Lord at the door of the Tabernacle of meeting.
  • 10:38 Then Aaron shall cast lots for the two goats, one lot for the
  • 10:42 Lord and the other lot for the scapegoat.
  • 10:45 And Aaron shall bring the goat on which the Lord's lot fell,
  • 10:49 and offer it as a sin offering."
  • 10:51 Joshua: The Lord's goat was killed, his blood was taken, and
  • 10:54 was sprinkled on the altar on the mercy seat for the
  • 10:56 forgiveness of the national sins of Israel.
  • 10:59 Now, this part of the Day of Atonement was already fulfilled
  • 11:02 by the Messiah when he sprinkled his blood across the mercy seat.
  • 11:07 Joshua: Hebrews 9:11-15, "But Christ came as High Priest of
  • 11:11 good things to come, with the greater and more perfect
  • 11:14 tabernacle not made with hands that is, not of this creation,
  • 11:18 not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood
  • 11:21 He entered the most holy place once and for all, having
  • 11:24 obtained eternal redemption."
  • 11:27 Joshua: Even though Yeshua offered propitiation for the
  • 11:29 sins of the world, he won't remove the sins of national
  • 11:32 Israel until national Israel repents and accepts him as the
  • 11:35 Messiah at the end of the second coming.
  • 11:37 It says that they will look upon him whom they have pierced and
  • 11:43 mourn as if it was for their son.
  • 11:46 For when they choose him, they only choose him because they
  • 11:49 see him.
  • 11:50 It won't be by faith that they are choosing to believe him
  • 11:54 as Messiah.
  • 11:55 Caleb: Guys, what about the scapegoat then,
  • 11:57 that pesky scapegoat?
  • 11:59 If Yeshua came as the Lord's goat and removed the sins of the
  • 12:04 people, then what purpose is the scapegoat?
  • 12:07 Well, Leviticus 16:20-22 says, "And when he has made an end of
  • 12:12 atoning for the holy place, the tabernacle of meeting and the
  • 12:15 altar, he shall bring the live goat.
  • 12:18 Aaron shall lay both his hands on the head of a live goat,
  • 12:21 confess over it all the iniquities of the children of
  • 12:23 Israel and all their transgressions concerning all
  • 12:26 their sins, putting them on the head of the goat, and shall send
  • 12:30 it away into the wilderness by the hand of a suitable man.
  • 12:34 The goat shall bear on itself all the iniquities to an
  • 12:38 uninhabited land, and he shall release the goat in
  • 12:42 the wilderness."
  • 12:43 Caleb: That first goat, the Lord's goat, was the substitute
  • 12:48 for the sins of national Israel.
  • 12:50 Yeshua enacted this ceremony live in person when he was
  • 12:55 brought before the people and Pontius Pilate.
  • 12:58 Pontius Pilate asked, "Whom shall I release, Jesus of
  • 13:03 Nazareth or Barabbas?"
  • 13:05 This is very interesting, guys, because as we read in the
  • 13:08 Scripture before, it was by the hands of a suitable man that the
  • 13:11 scapegoat would be led into the wilderness, "ish iti" in Hebrew.
  • 13:16 A suitable man did not have to be of the commonwealth of
  • 13:19 Israel, he could be a Gentile.
  • 13:20 We see a suitable man take this position in times past with King
  • 13:24 Cyrus, with King Xerxes, with Pharaoh Necho, but here it was
  • 13:28 Pontius Pilate.
  • 13:29 But the people cried out and chose who was gonna be the
  • 13:32 Lord's goat, Yeshua, and who was gonna be the
  • 13:35 scapegoat, Barabbas.
  • 13:38 ♪♪♪
  • 13:47 Joshua: Brother, quick, I got him.
  • 13:49 I got the scapegoat, come.
  • 13:51 He's big, he's real big. He looks mean.
  • 13:53 ♪♪♪
  • 14:05 Joshua: The scapegoat was different.
  • 14:07 It received the blame for the iniquity and the transgression.
  • 14:10 It received the blame for the sin nature of Israel, for the
  • 14:13 sin nature in general.
  • 14:16 You know, when we do something bad, brother, and we say Satan
  • 14:20 made me do it, right?
  • 14:21 Joshua: What if he did?
  • 14:23 Dude's like a trickster.
  • 14:24 He's, like, a little deceptive.
  • 14:25 I mean, when he kind of puts his thumb up, you know, it's
  • 14:27 nerve wracking.
  • 14:29 It could have been his fault.
  • 14:30 Joshua: All that temptation, it was Satan.
  • 14:32 The reason I made this bad choice, it was Satan.
  • 14:34 You know, if I'm being honest, we actually make the bad
  • 14:37 choices, but it's at this point that the world is going to be
  • 14:41 revealed who Satan really is.
  • 14:43 He, the father of lies, the one who is the creator of all the
  • 14:49 calamity and the sin nature for the entire world, it is going to
  • 14:53 be placed on him.
  • 14:55 Joshua: Isaiah 14:12, 15-17, "How you are fallen from heaven,
  • 15:00 O Lucifer, son of the morning.
  • 15:02 You shall be brought down to Sheol, to the lowest depths of
  • 15:05 the Pit.
  • 15:06 Those who see you will gaze at you, and consider you, saying,
  • 15:10 'Is this the man who made the earth tremble, who shook
  • 15:13 kingdoms, who made the world as a wilderness and destroyed
  • 15:16 its cities?'"
  • 15:18 Caleb: And this event has yet to prophetically occur when all the
  • 15:22 nations will look upon this dragon, this impuissant little
  • 15:26 creature that caused so much trouble, and they'll wonder, was
  • 15:29 this the guy who did everything that caused all of our problems?
  • 15:32 He will be judged, he will be bound, and he will be cast into
  • 15:37 the bottomless pit, the abyss.
  • 15:39 This happens at the beginning of the judgment of the sheep and
  • 15:42 goats, guys, where Satan, the father of these goats, will take
  • 15:46 on that role and fulfill that part of the ceremony.
  • 15:49 He won't be cast into the lake of fire as of yet, but he will
  • 15:52 be thrown into that bottomless pit, into that pit of darkness,
  • 15:55 just as the scapegoat was led into the darkness of
  • 15:57 the wilderness.
  • 15:59 Caleb: Because Revelation 20:1-3 says, "Then I saw an angel
  • 16:02 coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit
  • 16:05 and a great chain in his hand.
  • 16:07 He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the devil
  • 16:10 and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, and he cast him
  • 16:14 into the bottomless pit and shut him up."
  • 16:18 Caleb: So, what is the judgment of the sheep and goats?
  • 16:21 This moment is a deciding, it's a division, a delineation
  • 16:25 between those who are the Lord's, his children, and those
  • 16:29 who are of the enemy, Satan's children, the goats.
  • 16:33 Very interesting, guys.
  • 16:35 This is when the spirits of the dead from the age of the law,
  • 16:38 and those who survive the tribulation age, are brought
  • 16:42 into the valley of Jehoshaphat, the valley of decision, where
  • 16:45 conquering King Yeshua has to separate them.
  • 16:49 Matthew 25:31-34 says, "When the Son of Man comes in His glory,
  • 16:54 and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the
  • 16:57 throne of His glory.
  • 16:59 All the nations will be gathered before Him.
  • 17:01 He will separate them one from another as a shepherd divides
  • 17:04 his sheep from the goats.
  • 17:05 And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on
  • 17:08 the left.
  • 17:10 Then the king will say to those on His right hand, 'Come, you
  • 17:12 blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you
  • 17:15 from the foundation of the world.'"
  • 17:16 Verse 41, "Then He will also say to those on the left hand,
  • 17:20 'Depart from me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire
  • 17:23 prepared for the devil and his angels.'"
  • 17:27 Joshua: Woof, just like pickle flavored breakfast cereal, goats
  • 17:30 are the worst.
  • 17:31 Joshua: Yeah, it's about time somebody takes pickle down a
  • 17:34 notch or two.
  • 17:35 Pickle, pickles, all of them, everywhere, get out of here.
  • 17:37 You don't belong in breakfast cereal.
  • 17:38 I don't even know why cucumbers weren't good enough, we had to
  • 17:41 change them into some kind of Frankenstein thing.
  • 17:43 Definitely not next to cereal.
  • 17:44 You're not a Lucky Charm, get out of here.
  • 17:46 Joshua: They're no good.
  • 17:48 If I have to think about the delineation between the sheep
  • 17:50 and the goats, I think spiritually it's a lot like the
  • 17:52 grace and the law.
  • 17:54 If I look at the sheep, they're still guilty, just like the
  • 17:57 nation of Israel and Yom Kippur.
  • 17:59 But because they chose God's people, because they chose to
  • 18:02 love him, they receive grace.
  • 18:04 The goats, however, they despise God and his people, so they get
  • 18:08 the full weight of the law.
  • 18:10 And well, that means they get sent to this special little
  • 18:13 level of hell.
  • 18:14 Not the one where Satan lives, but where they're at, they're
  • 18:17 held for a thousand years until the Great White Throne
  • 18:20 of Judgment.
  • 18:21 Caleb: That's terrifying, but back to the scapegoat, I feel
  • 18:24 it's really important to go back to its origins, because the term
  • 18:27 "scapegoat" is an English-ized word that never existed
  • 18:30 in Hebrew.
  • 18:32 The real word in Hebrew is "azazel."
  • 18:34 Now, typically throughout history, Satan has been depicted
  • 18:37 as a goat.
  • 18:38 You have the Luciferian goat god, Baphomet, but the origins
  • 18:42 of azazel are quite different.
  • 18:44 It lends itself to a different fallen angel of sorts, a benei
  • 18:49 elohim, the ringleader of the benei elohim in their rebellion,
  • 18:52 who actually came down to earth and taught mankind to sin in
  • 18:55 special ways.
  • 18:56 1 Enoch 8:1 says, "And Azazel taught men to make
  • 19:00 swords, and daggers, and shields, and breastplates.
  • 19:03 And he showed them the things after these, and the art of
  • 19:06 making them, bracelets, and ornaments, and the art of making
  • 19:09 up the eyes and of beautifying the eyelids, and the most
  • 19:12 precious and choice stones, and all kinds of colored dyes, and
  • 19:15 the world was changed."
  • 19:17 Verse 2, "And there was great impiety and much fornication,
  • 19:20 and they went astray, and all their ways became corrupt."
  • 19:28 Joshua: FYI, the Book of Enoch is not in the canon, it's not
  • 19:32 gospel, but it was a book that was orally handed down even
  • 19:36 though it had been written 200 years before the Messiah.
  • 19:39 It had been around for a long time.
  • 19:41 The telephone game, as we know, can alter or change facts over
  • 19:44 time, but the principles in this book were understood by the
  • 19:47 people of that second temple time period.
  • 19:50 In fact, Yeshua's brother, Jude, quotes from the Book of Enoch.
  • 19:53 They understood these evil spirits to be the descendants of
  • 19:57 the benei elohim, the Nephilim.
  • 20:00 Caleb: The departed spirits of Nephilim, and Jude and Peter
  • 20:04 readily declare that the benei elohim who sinned were punished.
  • 20:08 They were imprisoned in a very low depth of hell called
  • 20:10 Tartarus, but Azazel, or scapegoat if you will, received
  • 20:15 a different punishment.
  • 20:17 1 Enoch 10:4 says: "And further the Lord said to
  • 20:20 Raphael, 'Bind Azazel by his hands and his feet, and throw
  • 20:24 him into the darkness.'
  • 20:26 And split open the desert which is in Dudael, and throw
  • 20:29 him there.
  • 20:30 And throw on him jagged and sharp stones, and cover him with
  • 20:33 darkness, and let him stay there forever, and cover his face,
  • 20:37 that he may not see light, and on the great day of judgment he
  • 20:41 may be hurled into the fire.'"
  • 20:44 Caleb: Interesting, guys, this punishment for Azazel mimics the
  • 20:48 scapegoat ceremony.
  • 20:49 That's because scapegoat means Azazel.
  • 20:52 It's a given name, so when you read the Scripture it says a
  • 20:55 goat is chosen for the Lord, and it says a goat is chosen for
  • 20:58 Azazel to go into that place of desert punishment where he
  • 21:02 was placed.
  • 21:03 It's mind blowing, guys, when you really realize that there's
  • 21:06 multiple layers of hell, just like there's multiple layers
  • 21:09 to heaven.
  • 21:10 And you read in Scripture places like the abyss.
  • 21:13 This place is actually linked with oceans, it means waters,
  • 21:17 but it's in a different dimensional state.
  • 21:19 You have a different state of hell that's called Dudael, as he
  • 21:22 mentions, a place that's synonymous with a desert and
  • 21:25 with darkness.
  • 21:27 And just like the benei elohim, they were bound in Tartarus and
  • 21:30 even in Revelation 9:14 it mentions that four benei elohim
  • 21:34 are bound at the River Euphrates, wow.
  • 21:37 Joshua: It's crazy, this desert place is shrouded in darkness,
  • 21:40 like the outer darkness that Yeshua talks about in Matthew 25
  • 21:44 when he references the parable of the sheep and goats.
  • 21:47 Joshua: Matthew 25:30, "And cast the unprofitable servant into
  • 21:50 the outer darkness.
  • 21:52 There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
  • 21:54 Joshua: This desert place seems to be where those evil spirit,
  • 21:57 the departed Nephilim go when they are cast out until they
  • 22:01 enter a new host to come back in.
  • 22:05 Joshua: Matthew 12: 43-44, "When an evil spirit leaves a person
  • 22:09 it travels through the desert, looking for a place to rest.
  • 22:12 But when the demon doesn't find a place, it says, 'I will go
  • 22:15 back to the home I left.'
  • 22:16 When it gets there and finds the place empty, clean, and neat."
  • 22:21 Caleb: All this to say this outer darkness must really
  • 22:24 suck, guys.
  • 22:25 I mean, Dudael means cauldron of God.
  • 22:28 Imagine a boiling pot of God's judgment being poured out upon
  • 22:31 the wicked.
  • 22:33 This outer darkness is where people go after the judgment of
  • 22:35 the sheep and goats, it's horrifying.
  • 22:38 It's a different level of hell, a different punishment than
  • 22:41 where they just came from.
  • 22:42 You know, in Luke 16 we have the story of the rich man
  • 22:45 and Lazarus.
  • 22:47 The rich man could look across the great chasm and he could see
  • 22:49 Lazarus in Abraham's bosom, but this place, you can't
  • 22:53 see anything.
  • 22:54 It's darkness, it's punishment, but the judgment that comes
  • 22:56 after that is even worse.
  • 22:58 It's called the Lake of Fire, the second death.
  • 23:02 Joshua: Guys, the moral of the story, if I'm being honest with
  • 23:04 you, is don't trust the goat.
  • 23:06 Don't choose the goat.
  • 23:08 Stay away from anything goat-like.
  • 23:10 Here's the point, guys.
  • 23:12 At any point, we could try to sit there and live under the law
  • 23:15 and follow every strict little detail, but you can't do it.
  • 23:18 And the second you mess up, you receive the benefits of the law,
  • 23:22 which is death, right?
  • 23:24 We want to choose grace.
  • 23:26 We want to choose what Yeshua freely gave to us.
  • 23:29 And we don't want to choose because of this fear of the fire
  • 23:32 or the fear of separation from him, we wanna choose because of
  • 23:35 his love.
  • 23:36 We want to choose because he has freely given us his love and
  • 23:40 grace, and sacrifice so that we could spend eternity with him as
  • 23:44 opposed to eternity separated from him.
  • 23:47 There might have been a time in history where the idea of
  • 23:49 sinners of an angry-- in the hands of an
  • 23:51 angry God drew men unto him, but we
  • 23:54 want to be in the time period now where we see ourselves as
  • 23:58 sinners in the hands of a loving God, and today is the day for
  • 24:01 you to choose.
  • 24:03 For you to choose his love and for his love to wash you clean,
  • 24:07 so that you can spend an eternity with the Savior.
  • 24:10 Caleb: Choose today.
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  • 24:17 Joshua: Brother, brother, I found the scapegoat but he's way
  • 24:21 bigger than we thought.
  • 24:22 What do I do?
  • 24:24 Caleb: Josh, that's not a goat, that's a longhorn.
  • 24:26 Joshua: What, this is it not the goat?
  • 24:29 This is an escape with the sheep, no?
  • 24:31 Oh, man.
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  • 24:41 Kirsten: Many of you know that Dave and I grew up in the
  • 24:44 church, we call ourselves church babies.
  • 24:47 We did not grow up in a synagogue, but we did learn
  • 24:50 about the scapegoat, and this is what I was taught, that the sins
  • 24:55 of Israel were put on the scapegoat, they sent the
  • 24:57 scapegoat out into the desert, that was kind of it.
  • 25:01 So, I really appreciate all the insight that you guys have given
  • 25:06 us today into the deeper significance, so thank you
  • 25:10 for that.
  • 25:12 Caleb: Everything God does is multifaceted.
  • 25:14 He has a purpose in everything he does.
  • 25:17 Nothing is done by accident.
  • 25:18 When you read through Leviticus and all the ceremonial things,
  • 25:21 because he meant to fulfill it later in Yeshua, and Yeshua was
  • 25:25 that Lord's goat, his sacrifice.
  • 25:27 His atonement was the blood sprinkled on the mercy seat in
  • 25:30 heaven, and it's enough to save us from all of our sins.
  • 25:33 David: I will say this, too, guys, that we did learn about
  • 25:36 that maybe in Sunday school, but I don't remember hearing about
  • 25:40 Yom Kippur.
  • 25:41 How about that?
  • 25:43 Caleb: Yeah, Yom Kippur is very important to the Jewish people.
  • 25:45 It's very solemn.
  • 25:47 It's the most serious day of the year of the High Holy Days, and
  • 25:50 that's because everything hangs in the balance for the nation
  • 25:53 of Israel.
  • 25:54 But we're very thankful that Yeshua paid that price so we
  • 25:57 don't have to be judged for not receiving those sacrifices.
  • 26:01 They can't sacrifice in that way today, it really is sad.
  • 26:05 There's no temple, there's no sacrifices, so they can't really
  • 26:07 see Yeshua in those sacrifices anymore.
  • 26:10 It's all just ceremonial now.
  • 26:12 Kirsten: And that's why it's so vitally important for programs
  • 26:15 like ours to be on the air, because you can be a Christian
  • 26:20 believer in a church, but you will not get the significance of
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  • 26:28 That's vitally, vitally important.
  • 26:30 David: We'll be right back.
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  • 26:59 David: Well, guys, you've done it again, thank you so much for
  • 27:02 amazing insight today, for us even learning today.
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