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Episode: “Temple Preparations”
Besides seeking suitable candidates for a red heifer without defect, other preparations are taking place for the next Temple in Jerusalem. These include gathering ingredients for the incense offerings, training for the priestly duties, and creating articles to be used in ceremonial worship.

Caption transcript for “Temple Preparations”

  • 00:03 David Hart: Welcome to "Our Jewish Roots." In today's special program, we look at recent preparations by rabbis in Israel to ready the
  • 00:13 building of a third temple. Join us now for an inside look.
  • 00:18 David: We are so glad you've joined us today.
  • 00:20 I am David Hart.
  • 00:21 Kirsten Hart: I'm Kirsten Hart.
  • 00:22 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: I am Jeffrey Seif.
  • 00:24 I've got something in my heart, in my head,
  • 00:26 and in my hand: press pass.
  • 00:29 Not trespass; press pass.
  • 00:31 The reason why I mention that is today we're bringing you some
  • 00:34 news, breaking news you're not gonna get in the mainstream
  • 00:38 news, but it's biblical news because there's stuff happening
  • 00:42 in Israel and "Our Jewish Roots" wants to bring it to you.
  • 00:46 And there's stuff happening in America that Israel is
  • 00:49 interested in about, yes?
  • 00:50 David: Oh, yes.
  • 00:51 Kirsten: Ooh, I want one of those cards,
  • 00:54 but you know what?
  • 00:55 I don't have that card, but I have the knowledge of what
  • 00:57 you're about to bring.
  • 00:59 Hang on to your hats.
  • 01:01 This is gonna be a rollercoaster ride.
  • 01:02 Temple preparations.
  • 01:06 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: For decades, an organization in Israel called
  • 01:09 "The Temple Institute" has been
  • 01:11 searching the globe for a pure red heifer in order to initiate
  • 01:16 the building of the third temple and purify the Levitical
  • 01:20 priesthood to officiate therein.
  • 01:23 Numbers chapter 19 outlines the importance of the ashes of the
  • 01:27 red heifer in ceremonial Hebraic worship but the qualifications
  • 01:32 for that red cow are extremely precise,
  • 01:36 very elusive in nature, the particulars of which are found
  • 01:40 in Jewish rabbinical literature.
  • 01:43 Not only must the cow be completely red,
  • 01:45 but it cannot contain even two different colored hairs,
  • 01:49 no visual blemish, as well as many other difficult criteria.
  • 01:55 To help narrow down the search internationally,
  • 01:57 the Jewish Christian organization,
  • 01:59 Boneh Israel, led a small group of Israeli rabbis to Rockwall,
  • 02:04 Texas, if you can imagine that.
  • 02:07 Here, the rabbis believe they've finally found several suitable
  • 02:11 candidates around one year of age.
  • 02:14 Not one, but several, amazing.
  • 02:18 I got the opportunity to speak with the owner of the red heifer
  • 02:21 ranch, Ty Davenport, to find out how he feels on the matter.
  • 02:28 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Ty, you have a 1400-acre ranch here.
  • 02:31 Ty Davenport: Yes, I do.
  • 02:33 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: And you have Jewish scholars from
  • 02:36 Israel, from Jerusalem, coming to your ranch
  • 02:40 to look at your cattle.
  • 02:42 Can you tell the story about how this one just fortuitously,
  • 02:45 accidentally, providentially never was tagged,
  • 02:49 so there's never a blemish?
  • 02:50 Ty: Yes, we literally tagged the calves the first day they're
  • 02:55 born or the second day because after that they get too fast to
  • 02:58 catch 'em.
  • 02:59 We have to rope 'em otherwise we can go up there that first
  • 03:02 couple of days and get hold of the calf and tag it.
  • 03:05 And we like to--that we will know who the momma was and we
  • 03:08 give it the same number as the mother.
  • 03:12 Well, we had gone and already tagged the calves that day and
  • 03:17 everything I had was tagged.
  • 03:19 And like I said earlier, once it has a hole in its ear,
  • 03:21 that's a blemish and it disqualifies it,
  • 03:24 so I told 'em, "I don't have what you want."
  • 03:27 But we went ahead and looked anyways through the ranch and
  • 03:31 drove all across the ranch looking and we'd just about
  • 03:34 given up and made one last look.
  • 03:38 Out of the woods comes this momma with her newborn baby.
  • 03:40 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Just so happened.
  • 03:42 Now, when you said to them, "I don't think you have--"
  • 03:46 we're talking about the scholars from The Temple Institute.
  • 03:51 Ty: Yes, sir.
  • 03:52 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Now, for those who don't know,
  • 03:53 and if you've been to Israel, these are Hasidic Jews that are
  • 03:58 all about building the accoutrements that go along with
  • 04:03 the temple that's going to be raised up.
  • 04:06 Believed at the end of days a temple is gonna be rebuilt and a
  • 04:11 number of the furnishings have already been built but they need
  • 04:15 to dedicate it with a sacrificial animal and they
  • 04:19 believe that you may have the one
  • 04:22 and they're all about inspecting.
  • 04:24 They have to find out, yeah?
  • 04:26 Ty: So once these gentlemen saw this heifer,
  • 04:29 they got on the telephone and called Jerusalem--
  • 04:32 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: They sent scouts first to come and
  • 04:33 check it out.
  • 04:35 Ty: They used the scouts, right.
  • 04:36 Said, "We're gonna be back," and Byron called me.
  • 04:39 He said, "We'll be back in three days,
  • 04:41 and we're bringing some rabbis from Jerusalem that are gonna
  • 04:44 fly in to examine the calf."
  • 04:47 And they did.
  • 04:48 And that's when--I didn't think much of it,
  • 04:52 but all of a sudden, the news media shows up and all these
  • 04:55 rabbis and people I've never seen before,
  • 04:58 and they all came to see this heifer and we knew then we
  • 05:04 had--this was something special that the Lord had planned.
  • 05:07 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Now, I said something to you off-camera
  • 05:10 that--you humbled me in your response to it.
  • 05:13 I said, "Look," because when I had learned about this red
  • 05:17 heifer story years ago, I learned if they ever found one,
  • 05:20 it would be worth millions and millions of dollars and I said
  • 05:23 to you, "Hey, get a lawyer," and you said,
  • 05:26 "No, you're going to gift it."
  • 05:29 Ty: All my life, I've just prayed and Daddy's always
  • 05:32 given me the desires of my heart.
  • 05:35 So, when I told him I wanted to be a cowboy and go full-time
  • 05:39 ranching, he gave me a ranch and allowed me to sell my veterinary
  • 05:44 practice and now I've been out here since 1997.
  • 05:49 I've always just prayed, "I wanna be a good steward of your
  • 05:51 land and your cattle, Lord."
  • 05:53 And when this came up, weren't even a question about it.
  • 05:57 I'm not gonna sell this heifer.
  • 05:59 I'll give her to you.
  • 06:01 You know, this is--to be a part of these end times,
  • 06:07 to be a part of this last temple that I believe is going to be
  • 06:13 erected, is like, "Wow."
  • 06:18 It just humbles you, you know, to know you can be a part of it.
  • 06:23 Itshack "Tsaki" Momo: Let me translate what he said.
  • 06:26 He said we think we've found--we think we've found a red heifer.
  • 06:31 ♪♪♪
  • 06:38 David: So it's looking like they've found the red heifer.
  • 06:40 We're not sure about that but what's next after that?
  • 06:43 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Well, you know, if you're gonna
  • 06:45 rebuild a temple, you've got to dedicate it.
  • 06:46 Thus, the red heifer.
  • 06:48 You need animals, you need incense,
  • 06:49 you need the accoutrements: shovels,
  • 06:51 altars, and all the rest.
  • 06:53 It's all being assembled.
  • 06:54 David: It's all coming together, yeah.
  • 06:56 Kirsten: I could talk about all of this for days.
  • 06:59 I don't think I'm the only one that's fascinated by this.
  • 07:02 You were right there.
  • 07:04 Please tell me, it's got to be big, right?
  • 07:07 If the rabbis from The Temple Institute in Jerusalem fly to
  • 07:11 Rockwall, Texas?
  • 07:13 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: They--now, these are religious Jews,
  • 07:15 you know, the long beards, the payos, the curls.
  • 07:18 They were like high school cheerleaders,
  • 07:21 for goodness' sake.
  • 07:22 They were just so excited, rolling around
  • 07:25 in the mud with heifers.
  • 07:27 It really was a sight to behold.
  • 07:29 It was different.
  • 07:31 Kirsten: But this isn't necessarily good news?
  • 07:34 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Depends how you look at it.
  • 07:36 For them, they were excited because the rebuilding of the
  • 07:38 temple, depending on how you look at Bible prophecy,
  • 07:42 it also could be a portent of trials to come.
  • 07:45 Kirsten: That's what I'm thinking.
  • 07:46 There's so much more in this program.
  • 07:48 Now, we get to go to Israel.
  • 07:51 Wait 'til you meet this guy. He's fascinating.
  • 07:53 He is the official incense supplier for the third temple.
  • 07:58 Let's go to Israel right now.
  • 08:01 Guy Erlich: I'm Guy Erlich
  • 08:02 and this is the Balm of Gilead Farm.
  • 08:03 We are standing at the hill of the frankincense,
  • 08:06 part of my plantation.
  • 08:08 Over here, the vast majority of the trees are boswellia sacra,
  • 08:12 the true frankincense.
  • 08:13 The frankincense of the incense of the early temple,
  • 08:16 the frankincense of the present of the three Magus.
  • 08:20 And the vast majority of the plants here
  • 08:23 are frankincense trees.
  • 08:26 The frankincense comes from the resin
  • 08:29 which come out from the bark.
  • 08:31 There is a special method of making a chip,
  • 08:35 a cut at the branch and then we let the resin go out and dry.
  • 08:40 And after about between one week
  • 08:42 to ten days we collect the dry resin.
  • 08:45 It's called tears because it--
  • 08:46 most of them have the shape of the tear.
  • 08:49 And this is the main raw material from the frankincense.
  • 08:54 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: This is Guy's Garden of Eden where he
  • 08:57 comes daily to inspect and tenderly care for his rare
  • 09:01 collection of plants.
  • 09:04 Actually, he started it all for medicinal purposes but it seems
  • 09:08 there were bigger plans for his life,
  • 09:10 a bigger reason for it all.
  • 09:13 Guy: Along the years, a lot of Temple friends
  • 09:15 are coming to visit me.
  • 09:17 I've become a magnet for Temple friends.
  • 09:20 In the beginning I found it quite annoying.
  • 09:24 I started my venture in order to be an economic boost to my
  • 09:29 family, not to serve the third Temple.
  • 09:33 And I can tell you that the--on the first time that a lot of
  • 09:38 Temple friends are coming to meet me,
  • 09:40 the people of The Temple Institute.
  • 09:41 Rabbi Ariel was here several times,
  • 09:45 even with his family.
  • 09:51 Yehuda Glick, Yehuda Etzion-- a lot of them.
  • 09:54 And when Rabbi Ariel was here for the fifth time,
  • 09:59 I told him, "Rabbi Ariel, when the Temple will come from the
  • 10:01 sky I'll be more than happy to supply the incense for the Holy
  • 10:04 Temple, but forget it, I'm not going to build you a Temple."
  • 10:08 He was very upset with me.
  • 10:10 He told me that I don't know what my destination is.
  • 10:14 I started with my plants with a desire to make a medication
  • 10:17 out of them.
  • 10:19 And this is still my main goal.
  • 10:22 But along the years I understood that my plants
  • 10:24 have some other purposes.
  • 10:27 And if they will be able to serve the Third Temple,
  • 10:31 I'd be more than happy to be the one that would bring it.
  • 10:35 So I promised Rabbi Ariel that I'd do my best to have as many
  • 10:44 ingredients of the Holy Temple as I can.
  • 10:47 And there are eight known ingredients and another three
  • 10:53 unknown ingredients.
  • 10:56 To find out what are the unknown ingredients and to try to have
  • 11:00 the best quality of ingredients so when there will be a Temple
  • 11:03 we will have the resin.
  • 11:05 We will not have to wait for this.
  • 11:08 And about two months ago, as far as I understand it,
  • 11:14 I become officially--I officially became the incense
  • 11:20 provider for the Third Temple.
  • 11:23 The frankincense was used in different places.
  • 11:26 The main place was as part of the 11 ingredients of the
  • 11:31 incense of the Holy Temple.
  • 11:32 It was burned on the golden altar.
  • 11:36 It was also put as pieces of resin on the table of bread.
  • 11:42 There was a family of Kohanim, Beit HaMikdash,
  • 11:45 who were in charge for making the incense for the Holy Temple,
  • 11:49 and their office was called the Frankincense Office.
  • 11:55 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: This amazing garden collection is
  • 11:57 located adjacent to the northern part of the Dead Sea,
  • 12:01 the lowest spot on planet Earth.
  • 12:04 Guy has called his site the Balm of Gilead Farm,
  • 12:08 named after another plant he considers
  • 12:11 one of his personal treasures.
  • 12:14 Guy: This is the balm of Gilead,
  • 12:15 Commiphora gileadensis.
  • 12:17 The main plant, it is identified as a Commiphora gileadensis.
  • 12:21 This originally came from Saudi Arabia.
  • 12:27 We are in the spring time.
  • 12:28 All the winter it was naked, without leaves.
  • 12:32 It was quite miserable and very stressed.
  • 12:35 But now it's starting to be hot and its leaves are coming back.
  • 12:41 So this is a waking up balm of Gilead.
  • 12:45 I'm using different parts of the plant.
  • 12:47 I'm using the resin, I'm using the fruit,
  • 12:50 and I'm using the leaves.
  • 12:51 First of all, it was one of the most important medication of
  • 12:55 ancient time.
  • 12:56 The plant was so important that it served--so it served as the
  • 12:59 first ingredient of the incense of the Holy Temple.
  • 13:03 For the incense they used the dried branches.
  • 13:06 This is what Professor Zohar Amar claiming.
  • 13:09 In the period of the second Temple,
  • 13:11 the balm of Gilead was the sole component,
  • 13:13 the only component, of the anointing oil
  • 13:15 of the kings of Israel.
  • 13:17 There is a very interesting saying that the gold from the
  • 13:21 three Magi's gift was not real gold.
  • 13:28 It was the balm of Gilead.
  • 13:30 It was more precious than gold.
  • 13:32 And that was the oil that was needed to anoint the new king.
  • 13:41 Guy: This myrrh was the second ingredient of the incense
  • 13:43 of the Holy Temple.
  • 13:45 This myrrh was also the second gift of the three magis.
  • 13:51 It was a very important plant in ancient time
  • 13:53 as a medication, spirituality.
  • 13:57 It got a lot of use in ancient time and even nowadays we have a
  • 14:01 lot of medical potential lie in this.
  • 14:04 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Strangely enough, when Guy first started
  • 14:07 his farm, he knew nothing about agriculture.
  • 14:10 We asked him to explain why he pursued his dream in one of the
  • 14:14 most difficult places in the world to keep things green.
  • 14:19 Guy: I guess out of curiosity and persistence.
  • 14:24 And maybe a guiding hand from above,
  • 14:29 I don't know.
  • 14:31 I am a--I am not a religious Jew.
  • 14:34 But I find myself a great believer.
  • 14:37 My faith is very strong.
  • 14:40 And I considered it--I find the strength to keep on going with
  • 14:45 my mission due to the understanding that there is a
  • 14:50 meaningful thing with my plants.
  • 14:53 It can be to the direction of the Third Temple.
  • 14:56 It can be to the direction of medicine.
  • 14:59 Both of them are sacred for me.
  • 15:01 This is how to burn the incense in the Temple.
  • 15:06 Not on direct fire; on coal.
  • 15:08 Sometimes, they put some salt in order to make
  • 15:10 the coal a bit cooler.
  • 15:14 But this is how to burn the incense,
  • 15:16 chopped resin put on coal.
  • 15:19 ♪♪♪
  • 15:26 Kirsten: I could literally watch and rewatch
  • 15:29 that interview dozens of times.
  • 15:30 In fact, I actually have
  • 15:32 'cause I think it's absolutely fascinating.
  • 15:35 Israel's back, Jerusalem is back,
  • 15:38 they're ready for their Third Temple,
  • 15:40 even for the incense.
  • 15:42 Fascinating.
  • 15:43 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Yes, and here we're looking
  • 15:44 at the particulars.
  • 15:46 Evangelicals have long felt in their heart of hearts,
  • 15:48 God's up to something new in the world with the emergence of the
  • 15:51 nation state of Israel.
  • 15:52 But now we're looking at temple-related issues.
  • 15:55 It adds a little frosting to the cake.
  • 15:58 David: This is something we've learned right here and I
  • 16:00 don't think we hear a lot about it in our churches these days,
  • 16:02 what's going on.
  • 16:04 It's pretty exciting.
  • 16:05 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Yeah, a lot don't take up the question of
  • 16:07 Bible prophecy and that's something that we do,
  • 16:08 because we're all about looking at what God is up to
  • 16:12 in Israel and through Israel.
  • 16:13 Kirsten: I think this is one of my favorite programs ever,
  • 16:16 because it's about the future but the Jewish people all are
  • 16:19 rejoicing, and we're rejoicing too.
  • 16:22 We'll be right back.
  • 16:25 David: Our resource this week, the series,
  • 16:26 "Jeremiah: Hope Over the Horizon," on DVD.
  • 16:30 The prophet Jeremiah was called to warn Judah that judgment was
  • 16:33 coming at the hands of the Babylonians.
  • 16:36 What we find woven through his writings is a message of hope
  • 16:39 and deliverance.
  • 16:41 These nine programs feature Bible teaching by Dr. Jeffrey
  • 16:43 Seif with special guest, Dr. Michael Brown.
  • 16:47 Contact us and ask for the Jeremiah series on DVD.
  • 16:53 David: "Our Jewish Roots" is more
  • 16:54 than just a television program.
  • 16:56 See what you are missing on our social media outlets.
  • 17:00 Kirsten: On Facebook and Twitter,
  • 17:01 you'll find our daily "Name of God" devotional,
  • 17:04 current news articles, the Bearded Bible Brothers,
  • 17:07 and more.
  • 17:09 David: On our YouTube channel, you'll find Faith Foundations,
  • 17:12 music, interviews, the Bearded Bible Brothers, and more.
  • 17:17 Kirsten: Or find everything on our website, levitt.com.
  • 17:21 David: We invite you to keep in touch
  • 17:22 and join us on social media.
  • 17:27 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: This is one of the more fascinating
  • 17:29 interviews I've had opportunity to be engaged in in years.
  • 17:33 I'm here with Levi Chazan at a famous place.
  • 17:37 How are you doing, Mr. Chazan?
  • 17:39 Levi Chazan: Very well, thank you.
  • 17:40 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Can you tell us where we are and what
  • 17:42 you're doing here?
  • 17:44 Levi: Okay, we're located about 20 minutes out of
  • 17:46 Jerusalem in a place called--a settlement called Mitzpe
  • 17:49 Yericho, which is right outside of Jericho,
  • 17:53 overlooks Jericho, and what we have established over here and
  • 17:58 what will be these premises, is a field school that is going to
  • 18:02 be the preparations for the beginning of the Third Temple.
  • 18:07 In this field school, it's very unique.
  • 18:08 We will train priests and kohanim,
  • 18:11 Levites, in order to participate in their work in the Temple
  • 18:15 service in Jerusalem.
  • 18:16 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Now, I think this is a fascinating story.
  • 18:19 You live it and breathe it and participate in it day after day.
  • 18:24 So it's just--I mean,
  • 18:26 I'm not saying it's pedestrian or mundane.
  • 18:28 It certainly isn't, but to think for a moment there's a vision to
  • 18:32 regather the priesthood, to build a school,
  • 18:35 to train, to prepare for sacrifices.
  • 18:38 That's incredible.
  • 18:40 Levi: You have to realize that the Jewish people have been
  • 18:42 out of touch for the last 2000 years,
  • 18:45 not only separated from the land,
  • 18:47 but separated from their service.
  • 18:49 And a great aspect of the Jewish people's service which is listed
  • 18:53 in the Bible is the service which took place
  • 18:56 in the Temple in Jerusalem.
  • 18:58 That was the main, main part of the Jewish people's lives: their
  • 19:01 cycle, their holidays, whenever it was.
  • 19:04 Everything centered around the Temple in Jerusalem.
  • 19:08 The Jewish people have been out of touch with that.
  • 19:10 They've been away from that.
  • 19:11 They've been removed from anything remotely resembling any
  • 19:16 type of service in the Temple and what we're doing over here
  • 19:19 is to get them renewed with this work,
  • 19:23 to prepare them in order to teach them all the aspects of
  • 19:27 the Temple service itself and what they have to do,
  • 19:29 where they have to go, and this, we're planning here to raise a
  • 19:33 generation of priests and Levites that will be able,
  • 19:37 when the time comes, to work in the Temple service in Jerusalem.
  • 19:40 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Mr. Chazan, what are the lines here all
  • 19:42 about and what's up with the stones?
  • 19:44 Levi: Well, this is actually where the groundbreaking was
  • 19:49 done a few days ago.
  • 19:51 This is basically the base of the altar itself.
  • 19:54 The first stage of the field school is to build the altar.
  • 19:58 That's the most important aspect of the field school.
  • 20:00 And what you see over here is the line markings,
  • 20:03 is exactly where the site of the altar will be.
  • 20:06 And so what we've done over here is started construction on the
  • 20:09 altar and that's the pile that you can see over here with the
  • 20:12 hole, and is actually--it's actually very historical because
  • 20:17 when King David first came to Jerusalem,
  • 20:19 the first thing that he did, our rabbi's a blessed memory teach
  • 20:22 us, is that he dug under the Temple Mount itself in order to
  • 20:27 establish the outlet for the wine and water libations which
  • 20:32 were poured on the altar.
  • 20:34 You know, there was--on top of the altar there was tunnels
  • 20:36 which led underground and King David himself actually dug those
  • 20:39 tunnels out in order to prepare.
  • 20:41 So the first stage that we've done is also made a hole in the
  • 20:46 ground in order to prepare our model over here for the wine and
  • 20:49 water libations.
  • 20:51 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: I am astounded.
  • 20:54 A couple of days ago, the news crews were here,
  • 20:57 advertising the story.
  • 20:58 There was some groundbreaking.
  • 21:00 I can still see the chalk lines here where the mizbeah,
  • 21:03 where the altar's going to be.
  • 21:05 Fascinating.
  • 21:07 What do you have here?
  • 21:08 Levi: We have over here a model which is one of the
  • 21:11 projects of our non-profit organization.
  • 21:14 And our goal over here with this model,
  • 21:16 this wooden model, is actually to produce a model which people
  • 21:20 could afford and our goal is to have every Jewish home is to
  • 21:24 have a Temple model in their house in order to awaken the
  • 21:27 desire for rebuilding the Temple in its
  • 21:29 proper place in Jerusalem.
  • 21:31 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: So the vision here is every home,
  • 21:33 just like there's a tzedakah box at every Shabbas table.
  • 21:36 To have right next to it a model of the--
  • 21:38 Levi: That's correct, that's correct.
  • 21:40 Every home to have a Temple model and in this way we hope
  • 21:43 that the Jews will have a desire to rebuild the temple in
  • 21:45 Jerusalem where it's supposed to be.
  • 21:47 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: And what do you have underneath it,
  • 21:48 if I can hold.
  • 21:50 Levi: Sure, these are the blueprints of the field school.
  • 21:54 You see over here, this is the hill that's right behind us,
  • 21:58 with the one-to-one scale of the Temple
  • 22:01 and the altar inside of it.
  • 22:03 And when we're building over here,
  • 22:04 the model, you have to realize this is not just a small
  • 22:07 version of it.
  • 22:09 This is actually one-to-one scale of the same Temple which
  • 22:11 was in Jerusalem 2000 years, which stood there.
  • 22:15 We're talking about a--the building which is about 20
  • 22:19 stories high.
  • 22:20 Just the altar itself is 5 meters,
  • 22:23 and it's humungous task.
  • 22:25 It's unbelievable task to undertake,
  • 22:28 but we plan to build it over here on this mountain.
  • 22:30 You can see over here the blueprints for the altar itself.
  • 22:33 This is, obviously, the main--for the main part of the
  • 22:36 work of the field school, because this is where most of
  • 22:38 the work of the priests took place,
  • 22:40 was on the altar itself.
  • 22:45 We also have the blueprints of the Temple itself,
  • 22:47 of the field school, exactly the way that it was situated in
  • 22:51 Yerushalayim in its proper place.
  • 22:53 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: I mean, this is surreal at one level.
  • 22:55 I just can't believe I'm having this conversation with you and
  • 22:59 I'm looking at preliminary sketch documents,
  • 23:02 I'm here post-groundbreaking for a field school to train kohanim
  • 23:08 for sacrifices.
  • 23:09 It blows the mind.
  • 23:12 Levi: Well, you know, it's interesting that you say that
  • 23:14 but if you would, you know, look back,
  • 23:15 if we would have this conversation 100 years ago,
  • 23:18 and we would be talking that Jews would live in Jerusalem,
  • 23:21 Jews would live in the land of Israel,
  • 23:23 people would also--people would also say,
  • 23:24 "Well, that blows the mind.
  • 23:26 That's something that can't be believed."
  • 23:28 But the Jews have returned, right?
  • 23:30 We have a state of our own now, 60 years have already passed.
  • 23:33 The next natural step with the Jews returning to its land and
  • 23:38 rebuilding Jerusalem is, once again,
  • 23:40 going to the Temple Mount and rebuilding the Temple.
  • 23:43 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: It's so cutting edge.
  • 23:46 It's--I mean, how do you feel personally?
  • 23:48 You're right here at the threshold of breaking ground.
  • 23:53 Is there some kind of calling from God to be engaged
  • 23:57 in this kind of enterprise?
  • 23:59 Levi: Well, you know, we read the Bible,
  • 24:01 we study about King David and his time period,
  • 24:05 and King David himself talked about "How can I live in my
  • 24:08 well-established house where the Temple of the Lord
  • 24:11 is in a tent?"
  • 24:12 And we say to ourselves, "You know,
  • 24:14 how could it be that here we are,
  • 24:15 we're in our well-established houses today,
  • 24:17 60 years after the fact that the Jews have returned to the land,
  • 24:20 and where's the house of God today?
  • 24:22 What is being done to the house of God?
  • 24:24 And we have no answer for that.
  • 24:26 So we're taking concrete steps in order to actually start the
  • 24:30 process of the Third Temple right here.
  • 24:32 The first Jews came here, you know,
  • 24:34 to establish the land.
  • 24:35 It was also they rolled up their sleeves and they rolled in the
  • 24:38 dirt and they had to make roads and they had to construct
  • 24:40 houses, you know.
  • 24:42 Everything there that had to be done was done,
  • 24:46 and once we have this base, the next natural step is rebuilding
  • 24:49 of the Temple for God.
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  • 24:56 David: This has been such an interesting program today,
  • 24:59 and Kirsten and I have had so many questions: questions like,
  • 25:02 are you ready?
  • 25:04 What's prohibiting the Temple from being built right now?
  • 25:07 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Well, the land where it's to be located
  • 25:10 happens to be controlled by Islamic authorities who have
  • 25:15 placed their one of the most sacred shrines
  • 25:18 in the Islamic world.
  • 25:19 Last I checked, two objects can't occupy the same space at
  • 25:23 the same time, so there's religious Jewish enthusiasms
  • 25:27 about the rebuilding of the Temple, as we've seen.
  • 25:30 There's Christians eschatologically that are
  • 25:32 interested in it, but there are--Islamic friends have a
  • 25:36 claim to the site as well, so we'll have to report on this
  • 25:40 unfolding story as time goes on.
  • 25:41 Kirsten: There is so much.
  • 25:43 Just real quick, to touch on that red heifer.
  • 25:46 Once those ashes--once they have the ashes,
  • 25:49 is there anything to stop them from doing the ritual of the red
  • 25:54 heifer over the nation of Israel?
  • 25:57 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Well, the particulars of it so far as the
  • 26:00 Temple goes, the ashes are used for dedicating the Temple and we
  • 26:05 don't have the Temple there to dedicate right now.
  • 26:07 So I suppose they will have those ashes and store it and
  • 26:12 they'll find an appropriate time to use it.
  • 26:13 David: We really all need to stay tuned for what's coming up
  • 26:15 with all of that.
  • 26:17 Kirsten: And keep watching the news.
  • 26:18 Watch the news from Israel.
  • 26:20 Dr. Jeffrey Seif: Yes, it's just one of those stories and,
  • 26:22 among other things, we're in business to shed light on it.
  • 26:25 So, thanks for keeping in--keeping us in business and,
  • 26:28 by the way, we'll be back in business next week.
  • 26:30 Until then, Shaalu shalom Yerushalayim.
  • 26:34 Kirsten: Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
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