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Caption transcript for Eretz Israel (The Land of Israel) (2021): “Promised to the Next Generation” (2/8)

• 00:01 ♪♪♪
• 00:03 David Hart: Welcome to "Our Jewish Roots,"
• 00:06 with insightful Bible teaching from Israel by Dr. Jeffrey Seif.
• 00:10 We travel to Beersheba today on "Eretz Israel,"
• 00:14 The Land of Israel.
• 00:17 ♪♪♪
• 00:25 male announcer: "Look to the north, the south,
• 00:31 the east, the West."
• 00:35 ♪♪♪
• 00:41 announcer: "All the land which thou seest,
• 00:44 to thee will I give it unto thy seed forever."
• 00:50 "Indeed, he who watches over Israel
• 00:54 will neither slumber nor sleep."
• 00:58 ♪♪♪
• 01:03 announcer: "Eretz Israel."
• 01:06 ♪♪♪
• 01:13 David: Thank you so much for joining us today.
• 01:15 I am David Hart.
• 01:16 Kirsten Hart: I'm Kirsten Hart.
• 01:18 Jeffrey Seif: I am Jeffrey Seif, and off we go to Be'er Sheva.
• 01:22 What a place.
• 01:24 It was a bit hot down there in Southern Israel.
• 01:26 Kirsten: It always is down there, isn't it?
• 01:28 Jeffrey: Yes, yes, it is.
• 01:29 Kirsten: Great area. Here's a question.
• 01:31 Today's program is titled
• 01:33 "Promise to the Next Generation."
• 01:35 So this land that God promised to Abraham,
• 01:39 how many generations does that go?
• 01:41 Jeffrey: It goes out in perpetuity.
• 01:43 Dor L' Dor, generation to generation.
• 01:46 Kirsten: Will there be an end to that promise for that land?
• 01:48 Jeffrey: When the earth blows up, new heavens and new earth.
• 01:50 Until then, I'm sticking with the literature.
• 01:53 Now, a lot of people disregard-- they say, "God took a detour.
• 01:56 You know, he gave it to the Jews, but then so much for them.
• 01:59 He dumped that, and went on to something new,"
• 02:01 but it's not the God represented in the literature.
• 02:04 Kirsten: Right, and you're at an ancient Tel,
• 02:06 and it's interesting 'cause a Tel tells of all
• 02:09 the different civilizations and generations.
• 02:11 Jeffrey: Yes, it's an archaeological hill actually,
• 02:14 and there's all kinds of layers there, and Be'er Sheva
• 02:16 has quite a history.
• 02:18 David: We're going there in just a moment, but before that,
• 02:21 here's Abraham's promised son, Isaac.
• 02:28 announcer: And the Lord appeared unto Isaac and said,
• 02:32 "Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee and will bless
• 02:37 thee, for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I will give all these
• 02:41 countries, and I will perform the oath, which I sware unto
• 02:46 Abraham thy father.
• 02:48 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars in heaven,
• 02:53 and will give thy seed all these countries, and in thy seed
• 02:58 shall all the nations of the earth be blessed."
• 03:04 Jeffrey: It's called adamah in Hebrew.
• 03:07 It means earth.
• 03:08 Aphar means the dust, and erets means the land, and my,
• 03:14 how the Israelites loved it.
• 03:17 Avraham loved it, Yitzhaq loved it, and apparently,
• 03:21 they loved a place called Be'er Sheva.
• 03:31 We're going to go to it. Come with me now.
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• 04:01 Jeffrey: The ancients were all about trying to understand
• 04:04 their world and come to know it.
• 04:06 Let me give you a window into how they perceived it by
• 04:10 employing a map that was akin to what they would have used
• 04:14 or material akin to what they would have put it all on.
• 04:19 It takes a while to unfold this. This is a big piece.
• 04:22 The Mediterranean here might be familiar to you.
• 04:25 Let me just say, up north at the top is the Alpine Himalayan
• 04:28 Mountains extending 7,000 miles.
• 04:31 Down here, you have the African Saharan Desert,
• 04:34 the Arabian Desert.
• 04:36 Sandwiched in between is this area called the Fertile
• 04:39 Crescent, the Levant here, and extending over
• 04:42 to the land of Canaan.
• 04:44 Of course, Abram made this journey and settled.
• 04:47 His son Isaac inhabited and spent some time in a place here
• 04:51 called Be'er Sheva.
• 04:53 We're going to have a look.
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• 05:10 Jeffrey: In this part of the world, people place a premium
• 05:13 on something called water.
• 05:19 [rock clacking]
• 05:21 You hear that?
• 05:23 Two hundred feet.
• 05:26 Not only does this well go deep, the story of the site goes
• 05:30 deeper yet, not 200 feet, but going back thousands
• 05:35 and thousands of years ago.
• 05:38 I'm not of a mind to take you back all those thousands of
• 05:41 years, but I want to take you back to a spot a few thousand
• 05:45 years ago that's noted in the book Bereishit, Genesis.
• 05:51 For therein we learn about Avraham and his clan here.
• 05:57 Yitzhaq, or Isaac, particularly in this story, and we learn
• 06:01 about people not far from here called the Plishtim,
• 06:06 the Philistines, and we learn about tensions.
• 06:10 Tensions revolving over what?
• 06:12 Who gets what in the land.
• 06:15 How's that for a story that's new and old?
• 06:19 In the Genesis narrative, as we'll see,
• 06:21 they're fighting over water.
• 06:25 They're fighting over a well-- the Plishtim,
• 06:29 the Philistines and Yitzhaq, Isaac.
• 06:34 Now, similarities aside, what's dissimilar is the fact that
• 06:39 in this case--at least in the Genesis case as we'll see--
• 06:42 we're dealing with the real Plishtim.
• 06:45 What do I mean by that?
• 06:47 The real Palestinian, so-called, according to history and various
• 06:51 histories, were seafaring people that came from Greece
• 06:55 and from the Ionian Islands, a tall people,
• 07:00 and we note in the Bible, in no uncertain terms,
• 07:03 how they secure a toehold principally along the coast.
• 07:07 They never penetrate far east.
• 07:10 They establish a few cities,
• 07:12 and you have some Philistine holdings.
• 07:15 Well, they came from the sea.
• 07:18 Bible readers know of another man who traversed the Fertile
• 07:22 Crescent, beginning in Ur of Chaldea, makes his way along
• 07:26 Mesopotamia, settles in Haran, Syria, and eventually hears
• 07:31 [speaking Hebrew] "It's time to go."
• 07:33 In Bereishit, in Genesis 12, he makes his way down further,
• 07:39 and here at Be'er Sheva, we are at that southern penetration,
• 07:43 not far south, the Negev.
• 07:46 So as one can imagine here, water would be in high demand
• 07:51 and very short supply when we add to it the trade routes, the
• 07:55 Via Maris, the way of the sea, that'll take you down to Egypt
• 07:58 crosses here as does The King's Way, The King's Highway,
• 08:02 which goes up through modern Jordan.
• 08:04 In any case, these ancient roads met here, and here at
• 08:08 the crossroads, the Plishtim and Yitzhaq meet here,
• 08:13 but God meets him at the place.
• 08:16 Oh, this is a prophetic Word.
• 08:18 We're told here in chapter 26 of the book Genesis that Yitzhaq,
• 08:24 Isaac, goes to Avimelech, which seems to be a title name here
• 08:28 of these Plishtim kings, and we're told that the Lord
• 08:31 appeared to him with an affirmation, and note it
• 08:34 specifically please: "Dwell in the land," he says,
• 08:37 "and I will be with you."
• 08:38 And in no uncertain terms, he says, "I will give you all these
• 08:41 lands like I swore to your father Abraham."
• 08:43 Now let me ask you a question: What is so hard to understand
• 08:48 about that?
• 08:50 That language is very, very clear.
• 08:52 In verse 4, as if verse 3 is not good enough,
• 08:54 "And I will give to your descendants all these lands."
• 08:59 We're told specifically, as we move through the chapter now,
• 09:02 in verse 23, we're in Be'er Sheva.
• 09:05 It's noted explicitly, where I'm coming to you now,
• 09:09 "And the Lord appeared to him and said,
• 09:11 'I am the God of your father.
• 09:13 Do not fear. I am with you.
• 09:15 I will bless you and multiply your descendants."
• 09:19 Friends, I know different people have different opinions.
• 09:22 Today there's the Mideast Peace Process, which is a little more
• 09:25 than wanting to carve up Jewish real estate piece by piece by
• 09:29 piece, trying to satisfy people that have sat on the front end.
• 09:32 All they want to do is drive us into the sea.
• 09:35 Now, come on, let's wake up and smell the coffee.
• 09:37 Let's wake up and read the literature.
• 09:39 I believe that a Bible reader is forced to conclude,
• 09:42 in no uncertain terms, that God gave this particular real estate
• 09:47 to a particular people.
• 09:49 He noted it all over the place, and he noted it here
• 09:52 in this place, Be'er Sheva.
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• 11:33 announcer: "For the Lord thy God bringeth thee into
• 11:36 a good land, a land of fig trees and pomegranates,
• 11:42 a land of olive oil and honey."
• 11:45 "Arise, walk through the land, for all the land which thou
• 11:51 seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed forever."
• 11:59 Worship in the shadows of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
• 12:05 Behold the land of the covenant.
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• 12:14 Kirsten: Jeff's first teaching was at Tel Be'er Sheva.
• 12:18 Sometimes it's referred to as Tel Beersheba,
• 12:22 and that's a place that we frequent, and we go to actually
• 12:25 on the Eilat extension of our tour, of a Zola tour.
• 12:30 Do you remember that first time we went there?
• 12:32 We were in our bus.
• 12:33 Everyone was excited to go up to the Tel, so it's a little
• 12:36 mountain, and our tour guide said, "We can't go today,"
• 12:40 and we were like, "Why?"
• 12:42 He goes, "Everyone, look out the right side of the bus."
• 12:44 And there were at least 30 camels
• 12:47 up on that little mountain.
• 12:49 And he said, "There's probably a wedding going on,
• 12:52 and they're trading the camels."
• 12:53 So that's just--
• 12:55 David: It was worth the wait for that.
• 12:56 Kirsten: It was worth the wait to get there,
• 12:57 but it's just kind of fun, and there are real camels still,
• 13:00 and there's real camel trading in Israel.
• 13:02 But we'd love for you to go on a tour with us and see
• 13:05 the beautiful, wonderful land of Israel.
• 13:07 You've been there multiple times.
• 13:09 Jeffrey: A lot of times.
• 13:10 You know, there's the new and the old.
• 13:11 I mean, you go back in time many years, and then you come back
• 13:16 forward into the modern world.
• 13:18 I remember when Israel was just coming into its own as a nation.
• 13:22 People would come visit the house from the Jewish community.
• 13:25 I was raised in a Jewish community, and people were
• 13:27 taking donations, whether it was to help support this or that,
• 13:33 and we always gave money.
• 13:34 There were these books where we'd put quarters in.
• 13:37 I remember this as a little boy, pre-bar mitzvah age, and
• 13:40 everyone in the Jewish community kicked in to participate in the
• 13:43 effort to bring the modern state of Israel into being.
• 13:47 Can I ask you to invest some energy and resource to help
• 13:51 bring this ministry, this story of telling the good news to the
• 13:56 eyes of the Jews into being?
• 13:59 We pay it every week.
• 14:01 The rental and television is expensive, never mind the cost
• 14:04 associated with making it, and we all do it because friends
• 14:07 like you help us in the doing.
• 14:09 Let's all pitch in and do our part and look at the good news
• 14:13 through the eyes of the Jews.
• 14:15 David: Our guest journalist for this whole series
• 14:17 is David Dolan.
• 14:19 Today he's in Tel Aviv.
• 14:21 Let's go there right now.
• 14:24 Jeffrey: Much of Israel's remarkable history happened
• 14:27 right here in Tel Aviv.
• 14:29 David Dolan tells us more as he continues his story
• 14:32 on the modern state of Israel.
• 14:36 David Dolan: I'm standing in a sand dune here near the coast.
• 14:39 The Mediterranean Sea is out here.
• 14:41 Behind me you see the modern, thriving city of Tel Aviv, but
• 14:44 much of the countryside, 100, 150 years ago, was like this,
• 14:47 sandy, just a bit of vegetation, hardly any trees,
• 14:50 not that many people living in it.
• 14:52 When the Ottoman Empire began, it was fairly tolerant to the
• 14:56 Jewish community living here, which wasn't many people,
• 14:58 but it was a few thousand, but that toleration started to wane
• 15:02 as the centuries went on, and by the 1800s,
• 15:05 there was major violence occurring from time to time
• 15:08 against the Jewish community.
• 15:10 The Christians were also suffering here under the
• 15:12 Ottoman-Turkish rule at times.
• 15:14 There was a major pogrom against the Jewish community of Damascus
• 15:17 in the 1840s, which prompted a mass migration of the Jews
• 15:21 from there to the land.
• 15:23 They were also coming from Egypt.
• 15:24 They were coming from Iraq to the east and what later became
• 15:27 Jordan and other places, and some were even coming
• 15:30 from Europe.
• 15:32 In 1857, a rabbi in Europe, in Serbia, had an idea:
• 15:35 "Let's re-create the Jewish state.
• 15:38 Let's bring the Jewish people back from around the world."
• 15:40 He advocated this in his synagogue
• 15:42 and took it around Europe.
• 15:44 It was a very popular program, but it was a bit premature.
• 15:47 The Turkish Muslims were still ruling here.
• 15:50 In 1839, the Church of Scotland sent out a delegation
• 15:53 to examine the violence happening against the Jews.
• 15:56 They recommended a Jewish state here as well.
• 15:59 They advertised this throughout Europe in different newspapers,
• 16:03 et cetera, so the desire for the Jews to return here was growing.
• 16:07 Then in the 1880s, as the Jews were finally a majority in
• 16:10 Jerusalem again for the first time in 1,700 years,
• 16:14 the pogroms broke out in Russia.
• 16:16 Whole Jewish communities were destroyed, wiped out, and again,
• 16:20 a mass migration of Jews began from there and later
• 16:23 from Poland.
• 16:24 Most went to North America and other parts of Europe,
• 16:26 but around 25,000 came here to the land.
• 16:29 This became known as the first wave of aliyah, or immigration,
• 16:33 going up to Zion.
• 16:35 Around this time, a French military official named
• 16:38 Alfred Dreyfus was charged with treason.
• 16:41 He was tried in Paris.
• 16:43 A young journalist came to cover the trial from Vienna
• 16:45 named Theodor Herzl.
• 16:47 He was shocked when he was found guilty on such flimsy evidence,
• 16:50 and later that conviction was overturned, but this prompted
• 16:54 him to write a book called "The Jewish State,"
• 16:56 an attempt at a modern solution to the Jewish question.
• 16:59 It advocated Jews to return here from around the world,
• 17:03 and he is considered the father of modern Zionism today.
• 17:06 The next year in 1897, we had the First Zionist Congress
• 17:10 in Basel, Switzerland.
• 17:12 This brought together Jews from around Europe, in fact, from the
• 17:15 United States, from Australia, and other parts of the globe,
• 17:18 and they put together a program to re-create
• 17:21 a Jewish state here.
• 17:23 They also showed the new Jewish flag,
• 17:25 the new flag that Israel would eventually have with the Star
• 17:28 of David in the center of it.
• 17:30 They began their meeting by singing what would become
• 17:32 Israel's national anthem, "Hatikvah," The Hope,
• 17:35 to be a free people back in the land of Zion in Jerusalem
• 17:38 after 2,000 years of exile.
• 17:41 Well, meanwhile, the pogroms continued in Russia.
• 17:44 There was another wave of Jews coming to the land
• 17:46 from 1904 until 1914.
• 17:49 Another 25,000 came.
• 17:51 Well, the local Arabs didn't like this, and actually,
• 17:54 the growing Jewish nationalism was creating
• 17:56 an effect amongst them,
• 17:58 and growing Arab nationalism was rising at the time,
• 18:01 and they demanded that the Jewish immigration
• 18:04 to the land stop.
• 18:05 In 1898, the first all-Jewish town was built just north of
• 18:09 modern Tel Aviv, called Petah Tikva, "The Gates of Hope."
• 18:12 I lived there when I first moved to Israel in 1980.
• 18:15 In 1909, Jews gathered in these sand dunes to plan a new town
• 18:20 that would become the urban center of Israel, Tel Aviv,
• 18:23 today over a million people living in it, over 100 years
• 18:26 old, a thriving city.
• 18:28 As the Jews kept coming back, however, the winds of war
• 18:31 were blowing in Europe.
• 18:33 World War I was about to begin.
• 18:34 It would change the course of Jewish history as well.
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• 18:48 Jeffrey: David, the word secular comes from a Latin word
• 18:51 saecularis, meaning of this age, and the thinking is that the
• 18:55 formation of secular states is all material and not spiritual,
• 18:59 but there's a religious vision that informed the manufacture
• 19:02 of modern Israel, correct?
• 19:04 David: Absolutely, Jeff.
• 19:06 We hear that the Zionist movement was a secular movement,
• 19:10 and it's true that Theodor Herzl was not a professing Jew.
• 19:14 He didn't attend synagogue, et cetera, but does Zionism
• 19:18 really begin with him?
• 19:19 I say no.
• 19:20 You have an example in the 17th century of a Jewish observant
• 19:25 Jew, Sabbatai Zevi, who said, "I am the Messiah."
• 19:29 Well, he wasn't the Messiah, but there was a million people
• 19:32 throughout Europe and North Africa, preparing to come back
• 19:35 to this land where he said he was going to establish
• 19:38 a Jewish state.
• 19:40 It was in their hearts to come back here.
• 19:42 Jeffrey: Right, so there are those within the modern
• 19:44 Zionistic milieu, which may deny the religious, biblical
• 19:48 moorings, but still, Jews kind of develop in a cultural matrix
• 19:52 that's so much informed by the Torah.
• 19:54 Even if the mind doesn't realize it, Zionism has its roots
• 19:57 in biblical Zion, and that's all of the culture.
• 20:01 David: You say, "I'm a secular Jew."
• 20:03 You scratch the surface and say,
• 20:05 "What does Jerusalem mean to you?"
• 20:07 And people say, "It's just Jerusalem.
• 20:09 It has to be in Jewish hands.
• 20:10 We have to be able to go there."
• 20:12 It is.
• 20:13 It's something coming from the heart.
• 20:15 And you know, Jeff, there's another example just a few
• 20:16 decades before Herzl convened the First Zionist Congress.
• 20:19 We had another rabbi, Yehuda Alkalai, who was from Serbia,
• 20:24 and he said, "We need to go back to Zion."
• 20:27 And there was, again, millions of people throughout Europe,
• 20:30 Orthodox Jews, that were hoping this would lead to something.
• 20:33 Well, it was a bit premature because the Turks were still in
• 20:36 control of the area, but again, it showed that the roots of the
• 20:39 Zionist movement, as it were, were very much from
• 20:42 a spiritual root inside of the Jewish people.
• 20:44 Jeffrey: Yes, and it can be argued to be tangential here,
• 20:46 but even in the 1800s, there were Christian theologs that
• 20:50 were reading the Bible, that are saying,
• 20:52 "Listen, God has an appointment with destiny with Jewish people
• 20:54 in that real estate.
• 20:56 It has to be."
• 20:58 David: Absolutely.
• 20:59 The Balfour Declaration, that came out of a Christian minister
• 21:03 in the government, and he was listening to some of the
• 21:05 theologians in the Church of England, and the Scottish church
• 21:08 also that were saying that Jews are going to go back
• 21:11 to the land and rebuild their state.
• 21:13 The prophet said so, and he was a government minister,
• 21:15 but he was very much influenced by his personal faith.
• 21:19 Jeffrey: You know, and it's amazing.
• 21:20 Even though people don't necessarily know it,
• 21:24 what you know and what I know because we're Bible readers
• 21:27 is that God is watching over his word to perform it,
• 21:31 and he's performing it here.
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• 22:06 [singing in Hebrew]
• 23:57 David: We hope you are enjoying Hadar's music as much as we do--
• 24:01 not only a beautiful musician but a beautiful actress.
• 24:04 We love having her on this program.
• 24:07 Kirsten: And hearing the Hebrew in song
• 24:09 is just so beautiful.
• 24:10 And something else that is so beautiful is the knowledge and
• 24:14 history that you and David combined bring to our program.
• 24:19 I mean, I just--we just kind of sat there watching everything
• 24:21 like this because we're just soaking up in so much.
• 24:24 Jeffrey: Well, you're kind.
• 24:25 The average Christian person isn't exposed to Jewish history.
• 24:30 There's not a lot of exposure to the nation state of Israel.
• 24:33 Never mind looking at the Bible through a Jewish perspective.
• 24:36 It's rather novel, and I think it's important,
• 24:39 and I'm glad it resonates with you guys and you.
• 24:42 Kirsten: Yeah, here's a question for you.
• 24:43 You guys were discussing Zionism.
• 24:46 Say, if someone just clicked on our program for the very first
• 24:49 time, and they're like, "I don't know what that is,"
• 24:51 can you just, in a snippet, tell what the term "Zionism" is?
• 24:55 Jeffrey: Zionism speaks to a movement of an interest in Jews
• 24:59 returning to the ancestral homeland, the land of Zion,
• 25:03 and Zionism is a decidedly Jewish term that harks to--
• 25:08 it was a cry that went out.
• 25:11 Jews were dispersed all over the world, but the modern nation
• 25:15 state of Israel came in the wake of invitation for Jews to begin
• 25:20 returning and rebuilding, and Zionism speaks to that rolling
• 25:25 the dice against an uncertain future, individuals packing up
• 25:28 and moving to the ancestral homeland
• 25:31 and bringing it into being.
• 25:34 David: I think we've learned in this program, too,
• 25:35 that it's also called making aliyah,
• 25:38 and it's still happening today.
• 25:39 Prophetic, is it prophetic?
• 25:41 Jeffrey: I think so.
• 25:43 Aliyah comes from a Hebrew word meaning to go up, and it's
• 25:46 always construed that Israel is the high point of the world and
• 25:52 human experience, and when you go to Jerusalem,
• 25:54 you go up to it.
• 25:56 It's to an elevated state, if you will,
• 25:59 and it's extremely important.
• 26:02 Kirsten: Touching back on Zionism, how do you feel that
• 26:05 the modern church, as a evangelical church,
• 26:09 is doing or feeling in regards to Zionism?
• 26:12 Jeffrey: I don't think there's an inordinate amount
• 26:15 of interest, frankly.
• 26:16 To be sure, individuals, you know,
• 26:19 pastors take churches to Israel.
• 26:21 They want to see where Jesus walked yesterday, and they're
• 26:25 interested in seeing their story, and I appreciate that,
• 26:29 but people walk past the Jews to go to the Christian sites,
• 26:34 and I think there is an insensitivity
• 26:37 to the Jewish struggle.
• 26:39 Now, I don't want to overstate that, but I think on the whole,
• 26:43 it's true of Christianity doesn't quite get it.
• 26:46 Now there are individuals--and thank God for that, or thank God
• 26:51 for you--there are individuals who have a heart, who have
• 26:54 a calling, and you might be more invested in this than your
• 26:58 average good friends in church, but I think there's a calling
• 27:01 for Christian people to get behind all this, and I don't
• 27:04 know that it permeates the church in total.
• 27:07 Kirsten: I've heard someone on tour say,
• 27:09 "Boy, there are a lot of rocks,"
• 27:10 and we go to visit a lot of ancient rocks.
• 27:12 And we must look at that and learn from the past,
• 27:14 but we also need to open our eyes to see what's going on
• 27:17 in the land right now.
• 27:19 And God is moving, and he is moving his people back,
• 27:23 and it's exciting to see Israel right now.
• 27:26 Jeffrey: It's really exciting, especially if you
• 27:28 walked out of a nightmare as Jewish people did
• 27:30 with the Holocaust, to walk into this miracle
• 27:33 and to participate in it.
• 27:34 That's why I'm thankful to friends that invest in helping
• 27:37 and participate what we do.
• 27:38 In any case, that Jewish experience was a nightmare
• 27:41 in Hitler's day.
• 27:42 Thank God it's more of a dream state now.
• 27:44 David: So much packed into this great program today.
• 27:47 We end--I can't believe we're done with this program,
• 27:49 but we end today with another song from Hadar.
• 27:53 Jeffrey: And it goes quick.
• 27:55 And as you go, Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalayim.
• 27:57 David: Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
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