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Episode: “Behind the Veil” with Ergun Caner, Part 1

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Caption transcript for “Behind the Veil” with Ergun Caner, Part 1

00:09 BRETHREN, MY HEART'S DESIRE AND PRAYER TO GOD FOR ISRAEL IS THAT THEY MIGHT BE SAVED.
00:15 THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE JEW AND THE GENTILE.
00:18 FOR THE SAME LORD OVERALL IS RICH UNTO ALL THAT CALL UPON HIM.
00:28 CONSIDERING THE TIMES AND SEASONS OF OUR WORLD TODAY, HERE'S ZOLA LEVITT.
00:35 SHALOM, HELLO AGAIN.
00:37 YOU'RE GOING TO LOVE THIS PROGRAM.
00:38 IT'S ONE OF MOST POPULAR GUESTS.
00:40 HE'S BEEN WITH A COUPLE OF TIMES BEFORE, ERGUN CANER
00:43 DR. ERGUN CANER IS A CONVERTED MUSLIM.
00:48 HE'S A BELIEVER IN THE LORD NOW AND HE WAS A MUSLIM
00:52 AND NOT JUST AN ORDINARY MUSLIM, HE WAS A SUNNI MUSLIM
00:55 AND HE WAS THE SON OF A MUEZZIN, THE GUY THAT YELLS FROM THE TOWER AND CALLS PEOPLE TO PRAYER
01:00 AND IS AN IMPORTANT OFFICER IN ISLAM.
01:03 ERGUN HOLDS HIS DOCTORATE IN MEDIEVAL HISTORY
01:07 AND HE'S A FULL PROFESSOR OF THEOLOGY AND CHURCH HISTORY AT LIBERTY UNIVERSITY.
01:13 HE'S WRITTEN 8 BOOKS.
01:15 LISTEN, IF I DID YOUR WHOLE BACKGROUND, WE DO THE WHOLE PROGRAM.
01:17 HE'S A VERY ACCOMPLISHED MAN.
01:19 HE WROTE THE BOOK "UNVEILING ISLAM"
01:21 WHICH REALLY WAS INFORMATIVE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE READ IT.
01:25 HE DEBATES MUSLIMS.
01:26 HE'S DONE IT ON FOX AND CNN AND THE BBC AND SO ON.
01:31 HE'S GOT A NEW BOOK, "VOICES BEHIND THE VEIL".
01:35 ERGUN, IT SAYS ON THIS BACK COVER, IT'S VERY TEMPTING,
01:50 YES SIR.
01:51 THIS WAS THE WORLD OF MY MOTHER, THE WORLD OF MY GRANDMOTHER.
01:55 TO THE BEST OF OUR COUNTING, 21 GENERATIONS OF MY FAMILY AS TURKISH MUSLIMS.
02:00 SO, PUTTING THIS TOGETHER WAS MORE OF A LABOR OF LOVE
02:04 THAN AN ACADEMIC THING THAT WE WOULD HAVE DONE IN THE PAST.
02:09 AREN'T THEY LOSING THE TALENT AND INDUSTRY OF 50% OF THEIR SOCIETY?
02:14 THEY DON'T BELIEVE THAT.
02:16 I OFTEN GET ASKED THE QUESTION, DON'T THE WOMEN IN YOUR FAMILY FEEL THAT THEY ARE OPPRESSED?
02:20 BUT, WE DIDN'T THINK WE WERE OPPRESSED.
02:22 THIS WAS THE WAY WE WERE LIVING, THIS WAS OUR LIVES.
02:24 THIS IS SOMEWHAT AKIN TO, WE DIDN'T KNOW ANY OTHER WAY.
02:28 WHEN WE CAME TO AMERICA, WHEN WE SETTLED HERE IN THE UNITED STATES,
02:31 WHAT WE SAW AS THE AMERICAN CULTURE, WAS AMERICAN DECADENCE
02:35 AND IF IT WAS AMERICAN DECADENCE, IT OBVIOUSLY WAS CHRISTIAN DECADENCE
02:39 BECAUSE IN OUR WORLD, WE EQUATE CHURCH AND STATE, MOSQUE AND STATE.
02:44 SO WHEN WE SAW SOMETHING ON TELEVISION
02:46 THAT WAS SOMEBODY SHOWING MORE SKIN THAN THEY SHOULD, THIS WAS CHRISTIANITY DOING THIS.
02:51 SO IN OUR WORLD, IN THE ISLAMIC WORLD,
02:54 THEY BELIEVE THAT SHROUDING THE WOMAN IN THE NIQAB, HADOR, BURQAH
02:59 THOSE ARE HUGE ROBES THAT COVER THEM FROM HEAD TO TOE.
03:03 VARYING COVER.
03:04 THE NIQAB COVERS ONE EYE.
03:06 THE HADOR LEAVES THE FACE OPEN WHICH YOU SEE IN ISRAEL ALL THE TIME,
03:10 AND THE BURQAH COVER EVERYTHING INCLUDING GLOVES ON THE HANDS.
03:14 IT'S THE WALKING SLEEPING BAG.
03:15 YES, SHE CAN SEE OUT, BUT YOU CANNOT SEE IN THROUGH THE MESH.
03:18 THEY BELIEVE THAT BY SHROUDING THE WOMAN,
03:21 THEY ARE PROTECTING HER PURITY AND THUS THE WOMAN IN ISLAM IS MORE PURE THAN THE SECULAR WOMAN
03:28 OR THE WOMAN IN CHRISTIANITY OR JUDAISM.
03:31 ERGUN, I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT WOMEN,
03:33 BUT I THINK DIDN'T MAKE ANY WOMAN THAT WANT TO BE COVERED HEAD TO TOE.
03:37 THEY CAN'T BE HAPPY THERE.
03:39 REMEMBER, MOHAMMED WAS AN ORPHAN AND RAISED BY MEN, GRANDFATHER AND UNCLE.
03:44 THE ONLY WOMAN, I BELIEVE, MOHAMMED DEEPLY, TRULY LOVED
03:48 WAS THE FIRST WOMAN HE MARRIED, KADIJA, 15 YEARS OLDER THAN HE WAS.
03:53 SHE WAS WEALTHY, CAME FROM A CHRISTIAN BACKGROUND,
03:57 WHICH IS OF INTEREST TO UNDERSTANDING ISLAM.
03:59 THIS WOMAN WAS HIS PROTECTOR.
04:02 IT'S NOT THAT MOHAMMED DESPISED WOMEN, BUT MOHAMMED SAW WOMEN AS PROTECTED PROPERTY.
04:10 THAT'S ONE OF THE CHAPTERS WE HAVE ON THE BOOK, "PROTECTED PROPERTY" THAT IS,
04:14 YOU HOLD HER UP IN THE HIGHEST ESTEEM, BUT, PLEASE MAKE NO MISTAKE SHE IS IN FACT,
04:19 UNDER THE SLEEVE OF THE HUSBAND, TO USE OF OUR IDIOMS, ONE OF OUR PEOPLE'S IDIOMS.
04:24 BUT, WHEN WE WERE IN AFGHANISTAN,
04:27 WE LEARNED THAT DURING THE REIGN OF THE TALIBAN,
04:30 WHERE THEY HAD THE WOMEN COMPLETELY COVERED
04:32 AND WOULDN'T EVEN GIVE THEM MEDICAL CARE,
04:35 BUT, THE WOMEN WERE MEETING IN BASEMENTS
04:37 AND WHAT WERE THEY DOING, BUT PAINTING EACH OTHERS FACES.
04:39 OF COURSE.
04:40 THIS IS THE NATURE OF WOMEN.
04:42 WRITTEN ON THE MOSQUES WALL IN KABAL, IN ARABIC,
04:46 ARE THE WORDS FROM THE 4TH KALIF, DO NOT TEACH THE WOMEN TO READ AND WRITE.
04:52 THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT IF YOU TEACH THE WOMEN TO READ AND WRITE,
04:55 THE WOMAN BECOMES, BY NATURE, LIBERATED FROM ANY TYPE OF OPPRESSION.
05:01 THIS IS WHY, WHEN WOMEN IN ISLAM COME TO JESUS CHRIST AS LORD AND SAVIOR,
05:04 IT IS A SENSE OF-- AN EXPLOSION OF LIBERATION.
05:07 I DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH MY HUSBAND TO GET TO GOD.
05:10 YOUR HUSBAND IN ISLAM, CAN KEEP YOU FROM ALLAH
05:14 AND CAN BLOCK YOUR PRAYERS, >>FROM THE MUSLIM GOD.
05:16 OF COURSE, YES.
05:18 BUT, IN CHRISTIANITY, THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JEW AND GENTILE
05:22 SLAVE AND FREE, MALE AND FEMALE.
05:25 THIS IS ONE OF THE GREAT LIBERATING POINTS IN CHRISTIANITY.
05:30 ALRIGHT, BESIDES THE WOMEN, THE ISSUE OF THE DAY, HOLY WAR.
05:36 WHAT IS REALLY, IF I'M NOT WRONG,
05:38 I WOULD SAY THAT THE MUSLIMS HAVE A PLAN TO TAKE US OVER.
05:43 THEY HAVE TAKEN 22 MIDDLE EASTERN NATIONS.
05:45 I THINK ISRAEL IS 23.
05:47 I THINK THE EUROPEAN COUNTRIES, AMERICA, ETC, ARE NUMBERS 24 THROUGH SO AND SO
05:52 AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO STOP.
05:54 30 YEARS AGO, AYATOLLAH KHOMEINI SAID, 30 YEARS AGO HE SAID,
05:57 WE WILL NOT STOP UNTIL AMERICA IS AN ISLAMIC NATION.
06:01 IF YOU REMEMBER IN ESCHATOLOGY, IN PROPHECY,
06:03 ISLAM'S ENTIRE PROPHECY IS BASED ON WORLD DOMINATION.
06:07 ALLAH WILL COME AND JUDGE.
06:09 IF YOU EVER STUDIED THE, I CALL IT THE "STAY BEHIND SERIES",
06:12 THE MUSLIMS BELIEF OF THE END TIMES, NOT LEFT BEHIND, BUT, STAY BEHIND.
06:16 THEY BELIEVE THAT JESUS, FOLLOWING ALLAH'S COMMAND, WILL COME BACK.
06:19 JESUS WILL DO THREE THINGS: HE WILL KILL ALL THE SWINE, BREAK ALL THE CROSSES,
06:24 HE WILL THEN KILL ALL THE CHRISTIANS AND JEWS WHO DO NOT ACCEPT ALLAH.
06:28 SOME MUSLIMS BELIEVE THAT HE LANDS ON A MINARET IN DAMASCUS.
06:34 OTHERS BELIEVE HE COMES TO THE MT. OF OLIVES.
06:36 BUT, EVERYTHING FOR JESUS' RETURN, ISA, IN ISLAM,
06:39 EVERYTHING FOR HIS RETURN IS BASED ON WORLD DOMINATION.
06:42 THEY HAVE TO DOMINATE.
06:43 IT'S GEOPOLITICAL AS MUCH AS IT IS RELIGIOUS.
06:46 I SPEAK IN CHURCHES ABOUT THIS AND WHEN I'M ASKED ABOUT THEIR RELIGION,
06:53 I FIND MYSELF SAYING, I THINK YOU KNOW THAT FEELING,
06:56 YOU'RE SPEAKING AND YOU'RE INSPIRED AND OUT COMES WORDS YOU HAVEN'T HEARD BEFORE,
07:00 BUT I FIND MYSELF SAYING, IT'S NOT REALLY A RELIGION,
07:04 FOR ALL THEIR PROTESTATIONS, IT'S A LAND GRABBING SCHEME.
07:07 THE NAZIS HAD A SCHEME, AN IDEOLOGY, A COCKAMAMIE RACIAL THEORY,
07:13 BUT THEY WANTED OTHER PEOPLES PRODUCE.
07:16 THE COMMUNIST, THEY WERE THE WORKERS OWN THE, EVERYBODY'S FAIR TO EVERYBODY.
07:21 BALONEY! THEY WANTED OTHER PEOPLES LANDS.
07:23 MUSLIMS BEHAVE EXACTLY THE SAME WAY, IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE A RELIGIOUS IDEOLOGY.
07:28 AND REMEMBER MOHAMMED'S LAST WORDS AS RECORDED IN THE HADITH,
07:34 I GET IN TROUBLE FOR CALLING ISLAM A FORM OF MEDIEVAL MORMONISM.
07:39 THERE ARE SO MANY PARALLELS, POLYGAMY, TURNING JESUS INTO A PROPHET,
07:43 A NEW BOOK WHICH IS BASICALLY TAKING FROM THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENT
07:46 AND CHANGING AS YOU WISH, TOTALLY WORK CENTERED
07:49 BUT ONE OF THE KEYS IS, BOTH IN MORMONISM AND IN ISLAM,
07:52 WE WANT TO ESTABLISH THE PERFECT LAND.
07:56 IN MORMONISM, SALT LAKE CITY BECAME THIS.
07:58 IT BECAME THE KINGDOM OF EARTH, ON EARTH.
08:01 IN ISLAM, THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A PERFECTLY PURE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC WAS MOHAMMED'S DREAM.
08:07 THE ONLY THING THAT STOPPED THIS WAS, AFTER HIS DEATH IN 632,
08:10 WHEN HE DIES, THE SPLINTERING AMONG THE ISLAMIC SECTS,
08:14 BUT IF THEY WOULD HAVE REMAINED TOGETHER, HIS DREAM WAS AN ISLAMIC WORLD.
08:18 WHEN I WAS IN SALT LAKE CITY, I FELT VERY AT HOME AT FIRST.
08:21 I MEAN, THERE IS THE BANK OF ZION,
08:22 THERE'S EVEN THE DEAD SEA, SO TO SPEAK.
08:26 BUT, THERE WERE NO JEWS.
08:29 THE BANK OF ZION--
08:31 YOU'RE NOT REALLY WELCOME.
08:33 THEY ARE A NEW CHOSEN PEOPLE AND JUST AS THEIR LAKE DOES NOT TASTE AS SALTY AS THE DEAD SEA,
08:39 AND I TRIED THAT, IT DOES NOT HAVE AS MUCH OF THE SALT OF THE EARTH AS THE REAL DEAD SEA.
08:45 BUT, YOU SEE HOW THE MORMONS AND THE MUSLIMS BOTH TREAT THE JEW.
08:47 THEY SAY THE JEW HAS BEEN REPLACED.
08:50 THE NEW CHILDREN OF GOD, THE NEW CHILDREN OF ALLAH
08:52 ARE THE MUSLIM IN THE MUSLIM WORLD.
08:54 WELL, THE JEW HAD THE BOOK, BUT IT WAS CORRUPT.
08:56 THEY CHANGED THE STORIES, IBRAHIM DOES NOT TAKE,
08:59 TO THE TOP OF MT. MORIAH, ISAAC, HE TAKES ISHMAEL.
09:03 ONE OF THE CELEBRATIONS, ONE OF THE EADS
09:05 AND WHAT HAPPENS BY DOING SO, THE JEW IS REPLACED, THE SAME THING IN MORMONISM.
09:09 IT'S REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY. I ALWAYS TEACH THAT, TOO.
09:13 IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO REPLACE CHRISTIANITY AND JUDAISM.
09:17 YES SIR, YES SIR.
09:18 CAN THEY WIN?
09:20 I DON'T BELIEVE SO. I ABSOLUTELY DON'T BELIEVE SO.
09:21 OBVIOUSLY, SPIRITUALLY, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY CAN WIN.
09:24 GREATER IS HE THAT IS IN US,
09:25 NO, THEY WOULDN'T WIN SPIRITUALLY
09:26 BUT EVEN IN THE POLITICAL SENSE, I OFTEN GET THE QUESTION,
09:28 WELL, DON'T YOU THINK THAT ISLAM IS THE GREAT WHORE OF BABYLON, REVELATION 17?
09:34 BUT, YOU MISUNDERSTAND, ISLAM IS AN OLIGARCHY.
09:38 ISLAM IS BASED ON TOTAL SUPPRESSION, CONVERSION BY THE SWORD.
09:42 MANKIND, BY IT'S VERY NATURE, HUMANKIND, BY OUR VERY NATURE,
09:48 WE DON'T LIKE TO BE FORCED TO DO ANYTHING.
09:52 I DON'T THINK CONVERSIONS BY THE SWORD WILL EVER WORK.
09:54 I THINK THEY CAN OPPRESS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME,
09:56 BUT THEY CAN NEVER COMPLETELY STAMP OUT MAN'S DESIRE
09:59 FOR HIS OWN FREE WILL, EVEN IN REBELLION.
10:04 ARE WE DOING THE RIGHT THING ON THIS WAR ON TERRORISM?
10:09 IT LOOKED TO ME AS IF WE'RE ATTACKED FROM SAUDI ARABI, BY SAUDI ARABIANS,
10:14 SO WE GO TO AFGHANISTAN AND WE GO TO IRAQ AND THOSE ARE--
10:18 I'M NOT CRITICIZING, I THINK WE'VE LIBERATED A GREAT MANY PEOPLE
10:22 AND CAUSED A LOT OF PEOPLE TO LIVE A MUCH BETTER LIFE.
10:27 BUT, WE'RE STILL NOT GETTING THE SAUDIS AND SYRIANS AND THE PLO
10:33 AND THE IRANIANS, THE REAL TERRORISTS, IT SEEMS TO ME.
10:37 WHAT WE HAVE DONE, THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MORE CONTROVERSIAL THINGS THAT I SAY.
10:43 BUT, I BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ IS NOT ONLY NECESSARY,
10:48 BUT IT IS MORAL, IT IS JUST.
10:51 I AM ONE OF 1.6 BILLION PEOPLE ON THE PLANET WHO COME FROM A MUSLIM BACKGROUND.
10:57 1.6 BILLION, I OUT OF 5 PEOPLE WHO WALK THIS EARTH.
11:00 WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN ONE ACT IS TRANSFORM WORLD HISTORY IN THE LAST 1300 YEARS.
11:06 IF THIS GRAND EXPERIMENT OF IRAQ TAKES PLACE,
11:10 IF IT ACTUALLY WORKS AND THIS NEW INTERIM IRAQI CONSTITUTION BECOMES THE LAW OF THE LAND,
11:15 THE FIRST ISLAMIC REPUBLIC IN HISTORY TO EXCEPT RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.
11:20 WHAT WE'VE DONE IN IRAQ IS WE'VE ALLOWED MY PEOPLE TO HEAR THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST
11:23 WITHOUT BEING STONED TO DEATH AS A CONSEQUENCE.
11:26 WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS TO TAKE A PAGE, IF I MAY,
11:30 OUT OF ISLAMIC WISDOM, WE HAVE CUT THE HEAD OFF THE SNAKE
11:33 BECAUSE THE ONE THING HAMAS, THAT ADA FAIN,
11:37 ALL THE VARIOUS TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS HAVE IN COMMON IS A COMMON VOICE.
11:43 FOR 1300 YEARS MUSLIMS FIGHT.
11:45 NOW THEY EITHER FIGHT EACH OTHER, IRAN-IRAQ WAR IN 1980'S
11:50 OR THEY FIGHT AGAINST A COMMON ENEMY.
11:52 SALADIN IN THE CRUSADES, SALADIN WAS BRILLIANT BECAUSE SALADIN UNITED ALL MUSLIMS,
11:56 SUNNI, SUFFI, ALUITS, SHIA, HE UNITED ALL OF THEM AGAINST A COMMON IBLAS, A COMMON SATAN.
12:03 THAT'S WHAT BIN LADEN HAS DONE. HE'S UNITED ALL MUSLIMS.
12:07 THEY DON'T FIGHT WITH EACH OTHER FOR A WHILE,
12:08 BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE FIGHTING AGAINST A COMMON ENEMY,
12:11 THE GREAT SHATAN, THE GREAT SATAN.
12:13 WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS CUT THE HEAD OFF THE SNAKE.
12:17 GO AFTER THE VOICE.
12:19 GO AFTER THE LEADERSHIP AND WHAT YOU END UP HAVING IS
12:22 THEY WILL END UP SPLINTERING AND FIGHTING AGAINST EACH OTHER ONCE AGAIN.
12:24 WELL, THAT'S HAPPENED IN IRAQ IN A WAY.
12:27 WE CUT OFF SADDAM HUSSEIN AND NOW YOU HAVE DIFFERENT PARTIES ARGUING IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
12:30 SHIITE VERSUS SUNNI AND SUNNI VERSUS KURD
12:32 AND YOU HAVE IN IRAQ, 60% OF THE COUNTRY IS SHIITE, 20% ARE SUNNI, 20% ARE KURD.
12:38 THAT WILL BE AN INTERNAL CIVIL WAR.
12:41 I PRAY IT DOESN'T BECOME A VIOLENT ONE, BUT IT WILL BE A CIVIL WAR FOR YEARS
12:44 AND IF THEY ARE CONCENTRATING ON EACH OTHER, THEY'RE NOT COMING AFTER US.
12:48 HE'S ERGUN CANER. HE'S THE BOTTOM LINE ON ISLAM.
12:51 HE LIVED THE STUFF, HE ATE AND DRANK THE STUFF AS HAS HIS FAMILY FOR MANY CENTURIES.
12:56 WE'LL BE BACK WITH HIM RIGHT AFTER THIS.
13:12 FOR A BIBLICAL PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT IS HAPPENING IN ISRAEL AND THE MIDDLE EAST,
13:16 ASK FOR ZOLA'S FREE MONTHLY NEWSLETTER, THE LEVITT LETTER.
13:24 ZOLA'S NEW KINGDOM CATALOG DESCRIBES HIS, BOOKS,
13:27 TEACHING TAPES AND CORRESPONDENCE COURSE.
13:31 FOR ZOLA'S FREE NEWSLETTER AND CATALOG,
13:50 THUS SAYETH THE LORD GOD, I SHALL GATHER YOU FROM THE PEOPLES
13:54 AND ASSEMBLE YOU OUT OF THE COUNTRIES WHERE YOU'VE BEEN SCATTERED
13:58 AND I WILL GIVE YOU THE LAND OF ISRAEL.
14:01 THE WILDERNESS AND THE DRY LAND SHALL BE GLAD.
14:04 THE DESERT SHALL REJOICE AND BLOSSOM AS THE ROSE.
14:08 YOU SHALL KNOW THAT I AM THE LORD WHEN I BRING YOU INTO THE LAND OF ISRAEL.
14:17 OF COURSE, ERGUN, WE STILL TAKE OUR TOURS, PEOPLE COME.
14:20 ARAFAT'S TRYING TO MAKE IT A WAR-TORN NATION.
14:25 THE LIE ALMOST FLIES, BUT IT DOESN'T QUITE.
14:28 PEOPLE ARE BEGINNING TO UNDERSTAND
14:30 ISRAEL IS A PROGRESSIVE COUNTRY RUNNING LIKE A WATCH.
14:32 THE PALESTINIANS, THROUGH SO MANY SELF INFLICTED WOUNDS,
14:36 ARE DESTITUTE ALMOST, ECONOMICALLY, MORALLY.
14:41 I DON'T GET IT.
14:43 BUT, WHEN WE TRAVEL THERE WE DO SEE THESE VEILED WOMEN
14:46 AND I'M WONDERING IN YOUR BOOK, "VOICES BEHIND THE VEIL"
14:50 IT'S WRITTEN BY CHRISTIAN WOMEN THAT WERE MUSLIMS?
14:54 IS THAT THE IDEA?
14:56 WELL, NOT JUST CHRISTIAN WOMEN WHO CAME OUT OF ISLAM, MISSIONARIES TO MUSLIMS.
15:00 OH, MISSIONARIES.
15:02 AND THEN SOME THAT ARE FORMER MUSLIMS.
15:04 ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, I WANTED TO FIND A BOOK THAT WOMEN WOULD COME UP AND SAY,
15:09 WELL, I WANT SOMETHING THAT SPEAKS TO THE CONDITION OF WOMEN
15:12 AND WHAT WE EITHER HAD WAS DEFENSES OF ISLAM, SECULAR BOOKS OR REACTIONARY WORKS,
15:20 STUFF THAT WAS A LITTLE MORE, "CHICKEN LITTLE, THE SKY IS FALLING" TYPE STUFF.
15:24 THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS A BOOK, FOR CHRISTIAN WOMEN, ABOUT MUSLIM WOMEN
15:28 AND THIS VITAL BECAUSE ONE OF THE MORE RELEVANT PROTOCOLS IN MY CULTURE,
15:33 THE ISLAMIC IS THIS, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CROSS-GENDER EVANGELISM.
15:39 IF YOU, AS A CHRISTIAN CAME TO THE DOOR AND A MUSLIM WOMAN ANSWERS
15:43 AND YOU BEGAN SHARING THE GOSPEL WITH HER,
15:46 YOU HAVE EITHER DISHONORED HER FAMILY OR YOU'VE INSULTED HER HUSBAND.
15:49 IT IS WOMAN TO WOMAN, MAN TO MAN IN MY CULTURE THAT THE COMMUNICATION GOES ON.
15:55 BY AND LARGE THE VEIL IS THERE BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT YOU AS A MAN,
15:58 LOOKING UPON THEIR WIVES BUT, WOMAN TO WOMAN,
16:01 THEY HAVE ALL THE COMMUNICATION EVEN WITH THE HEATHENS EVEN WITH THE JEW OR THE CHRISTIAN,
16:06 THE MUSLIM WOMAN IS ALLOWED TO COMMUNICATE.
16:08 WHAT I DID IS THIS, I PUT TOGETHER A RESEARCH PROJECT
16:12 WHERE THESE WOMEN TOLD ABOUT THERE LIVES.
16:14 THEY HAVE COME OUT OF SHIA, SUNNI, SUFFI
16:17 AND WE HAVE ONE WHO CAME OUT OF DRUZE BACKGROUND WHO ARE NOW CHRISTIANS.
16:22 WE ASKED THEM TO EXPLAIN YOU LIFE FROM BIRTH TO DEATH,
16:25 WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE A MUSLIM CHILD, DAUGHTER, BETROTHED, YOUNG BRIDE, MOTHER,
16:32 ALL THE WAY THROUGH DEATH AND EXPLAIN TO US HOW A CHRISTIAN WOMAN
16:37 CAN REACH INTO THE LIFE OF A MUSLIM WOMAN AND BUILD A BRIDGE INTO HER LIFE.
16:42 IN THAT WAY IT'S UNIQUE TO WHAT YOU DO
16:45 BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE TALKING ABOUT THE JEWISH CHRISTIAN RELATIONSHIP,
16:48 BUT, I MEAN YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR DECADES.
16:51 THE WORK OF THE COMPLETED JEW, I AM ONE WHO HAS COME TO JESUS CHRIST AS MESSIAH.
16:56 WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS IN A SMALL WAY, MIRROR WHAT YOU DO.
17:01 WHAT I DID, COMING OUT OF ISLAM, I WANT TO EXPLAIN HOW WE DID THIS,
17:05 HOW DID WE COME THIS WAY AND FOR THE WOMAN, THEY DON'T LISTEN, THEY WOULDN'T LISTEN TO ME.
17:09 WHY WOULD A WOMAN, A MUSLIM WOMAN LISTEN TO ME?
17:12 I'M A KAFIR AL-ASQAR, BUT SHE WILL LISTEN--,
17:15 WHAT'S A KAFIR AL-ASQAR?
17:17 HIGH INFIDEL.
17:18 OH, WORSE THAN A NORMAL INFIDEL. >>YES.
17:22 ALL THE CHRISTIANS ARE INFIDELS, BUT YOU'RE A HIGH INFIDEL.
17:24 I HAVE A SPECIAL STAMP OF APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL, IF THAT MAY BE.
17:27 I THOUGHT THERE WAS NO HIERARCHY IN THE CHURCH, BUT ACCORDING TO THE ISLAM GROUPS--,
17:31 WELL, THE CONSIDER ME, YES, THEY WON'T EVEN LISTEN TO ME,
17:34 BUT THE WILL LISTEN TO THE WOMAN THAT THEY ARE WASHING THEIR CLOTHES WITH.
17:37 THEY WILL LISTEN TO THAT WOMAN THAT BUILDS THAT BRIDGE INTO HER LIFE.
17:41 AND SO, WHAT YOU DO IS UNIQUE BECAUSE, NOT ONLY THE FIRST ONE,
17:45 BUT YOU BUILT THE BRIDGE BETWEEN THE TWO.
17:47 I WANT TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THE BRIDGE INTO THE LIVES OF MUSLIM PEOPLE.
17:51 I SIGN THE SAME VERSE THAT YOU DO, ROMANS 9:1-3
18:02 IF IN A SMALL WAY, I COULD DO WHAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR DECADES,
18:05 FOR MY PEOPLE--
18:07 YOU ARE DOING THAT IN A PRETTY BIG WAY.
18:09 THIS IS PUBLISHED BY KREGEL, I GUESS I CAN GET IT ANY PLACE.
18:12 "VOICES BEHIND THE VEIL."
18:14 WE WERE BLESSED.
18:15 IT HIT THE BEST SELLER LIST IN OCTOBER.
18:17 YES, I UNDERSTOOD THAT.
18:19 HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE LOOKING BEHIND THESE VEILS AND SEEING WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON?
18:23 SOMETIMES YOU WILL HEAR SOMEBODY SAY, "WELL BEHIND THE VEIL THERE IS A WOMAN WHO'S BEEN LIBERATED"
18:27 AND IN MANY WAYS, MUSLIMS IN THEIR CULTURE DID ELEVATE THE POSITION OF WOMEN
18:32 FROM CATTLE TO PROPERTY, BUT REMEMBER, IT'S STILL PROTECTED PROPERTY.
18:37 IT'S NOT A VERY HIGH CALLING.
18:40 A MAN CAN HAVE FOUR WIVES, ACCORDING TO SURAH 4 VERSE 3.
18:44 HE CAN HAVE 2, 3 OR 4 WIVES BASED ON THIS VERSE.
18:46 A WOMAN IS ONLY ALLOWED TO HAVE ONE HUSBAND.
18:49 HOW DOES THIS WORK OUT OVER THE WHOLE SOCIETY,
18:51 BECAUSE THERE'S PRETTY MUCH AN EQUAL NUMBER OF WOMAN AND MEN.
18:54 BUT, YOU WILL HAVE, MOHAMMED WAS MARRIED 12-13 TIMES.
18:58 YOU HAVE NOT JUST HIS MARRIAGES, BUT HIS ARRANGED CONCUBINES.
19:02 YOU HAVE, IN MOST ISLAMIC COUNTRIES,
19:05 MEN WHO NOT ONLY HAVE WIVES, BUT IN THE SHIA WORLD,
19:08 YOU HAVE MUT'A, TEMPORARY BRIDES,
19:11 TEMPORARY WIVES. >>PROSTITUTES.
19:13 YOU CAN HAVE ONE IN EACH CITY, A MUT'A.
19:16 IT IS HORRIBLE.
19:20 I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY CALL IT, FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE, THIS IS IMMORAL
19:23 AND WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO THEIR PREACHING.
19:27 THEY DON'T LIKE OUR PRETTY WOMEN ON CNN OR FOX OR WHATEVER.
19:31 WE HAVE TO LISTEN AND AT THE SAME TIME, THE WAY THEY BEHAVE.
19:34 EVEN IN ETERNITY, THE MAN IS DOMINANT.
19:37 YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THE MAN GET WHO'S THE BOMBER?
19:39 WHAT DOES THE MAN GET WHO STRAPS A BOMB ON?
19:41 HE GETS VIRGINS.
19:42 70 VIRGINS, PERPETUAL VIRGINS, WAITING ON COUCHES WITH POMEGRANATES.
19:46 WHAT DOES THE WOMAN GET?
19:48 I WAS OFTEN WONDERING.
19:49 WHAT DOES THE FEMALE JIHADIN GET?
19:51 IF YOU TELL A WOMAN THAT IF YOU STRAP A BOMB TO YOURSELF,
19:54 THERE ARE 70 VIRGIN MEN WAITING FOR YOU.
19:58 THAT'S NOT HEAVEN FOR HER.
20:00 THAT WOULD BE ANNOYING.
20:01 SHE'LL SPEND ETERNITY PUSHING THEM AWAY, "LEAVE ME ALONE".
20:04 BUT, WHAT IS INTERESTING IS THE WAHABI DEVELOPED A DOCTRINE.
20:07 THE WAHABI DEVELOPED A DOCTRINE OF THE FEMALE JIHADIN.
20:11 SHE IS ALLOWED TO PICK WHO WILL GO WITH HER TO PARADISE.
20:15 SHE ANNOUNCES, JUST LIKE YOU SEE ON HAMAS, THEY READ IT ON VIDEO NOW,
20:19 IT USED TO BE THEY WOULD JUST SPEAK TO THE CITY OR THEY WOULD STAND IN THE CITY SQUARE
20:22 AND THEY WOULD READ THE PROCLAMATION THAT I AM A JIHADIN.
20:24 THEY SAY WHO THEY WANT TO TAKE WITH THEM TO PARADISE.
20:28 THE MOTHER TAKES HER CHILDREN,
20:30 THE WOMAN, HER BROTHER OR SOMEONE SHE THINKS WON'T MAKE IT WITHOUT HER HELP.
20:33 SO SHE GETS REWARDED AND THEY ARE ALSO TAKEN TO PARADISE.
20:37 OF COURSE, AND NOW DO YOU SEE HOW THIS APPLIES TO THE ATONEMENT?
20:40 A MAN DIES FOR HIS SELFISH NEEDS IN ISLAM, A WOMAN DIES FOR HER FRIENDS.
20:45 IT'S REALLY NICER.
20:47 CHRIST DIES FOR THE WORLD.
20:49 I USE THAT AS A BRIDGE.
20:51 THAT'S BEAUTIFUL, THAT'S LOVELY.
20:53 I TELL THE MUSLIM WOMAN, WELL, SEE YOU DON'T HAVE TO STRAP A BOMB TO YOURSELF,
20:55 JESUS STRAPPED HIMSELF TO A CROSS AND HE DIED FOR HIS FRIENDS.
20:59 WHY DON'T THEY SEE HIM AS A SHAHID?
21:01 HE IS A MARTYR.
21:02 HE WAS, BUT IT WAS COSMIC DEATH.
21:06 MUSLIMS ALWAYS ASKS THE QUESTION,
21:08 "WHY DOES SOMEONE ELSE HAVE TO DIE FOR ME?"
21:10 REMEMBER, ISLAM IS COMPLETELY WORKS BASED.
21:12 IN THE 23RD CHAPTER OF THE QURAN SAYS,
21:16 AND IF YOU DIE WITH MORE GOOD THAN BAD, THEN ALLAH FORGETS THE BAD.
21:19 BUT, IN CHRISTIANITY, IN THE NEW TESTAMENT AND THE OLD TESTAMENT, WHAT DO WE HAVE?
21:23 GOD DOESN'T FORGET IT, GOD PAID IT.
21:26 THE DEATH ON THE CROSS WAS THE WRATH OF GOD POURED OUT ON THE BACK.
21:38 IT ISN'T A PARDONED OR COMMUTED SENTENCE, HE PAID IT.
21:41 IT IS SATISFIED, THE LAW IS SATISFIED.
21:44 EXACTLY, THIS PROPITIATION SPEAKS TO THE HEART OF THE MUSLIM BECAUSE YOU SAY,
21:48 WAIT, ALLAH ISN'T JUST IF HE JUST FORGETS WHAT YOU DID 49% OF THE TIME.
21:53 BUT, GOD IS JUST, IF CHRIST DIED TO FULFILL, TO PAY, TO PROPITIATE, TO REDEEM.
22:00 THIS CONCEPT IS STARTING TO WORK.
22:02 WE ARE SEEING REVIVAL AMONG OUR PEOPLE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A MILLENNIA.
22:05 YOU'RE WRITING A CHRISTIAN COMMENTARY ON THE QURAN, ARE YOU NOT?
22:09 IT'S THE BIGGEST PROJECT WE'VE EVER DONE.
22:12 MY BROTHER AND I, MY BROTHER TEACHES AT SOUTHEASTERN SEMINARY AND I TEACH AT LIBERTY.
22:16 A MILLION WORD COMMENTARY ON THE ENTIRE QURAN,
22:21 CHRISTIAN COMMENTARY ON EVERY VERSE ON THE QURAN.
22:24 A MILLION WORDS IS A LOT OF WORDS.
22:26 WELL, I'LL TELL YOU, IT'S A BIGGER PROJECT THAN WE EXPECTED.
22:30 THEY WENT AFTER SALMAN RUSHDIE FOR ONE VERSE,
22:34 WHEN HE QUOTED FROM THE 53RD SURAH OF THE QURAN.
22:38 BUT WE'RE DOING FOR CHRISTIANS SO THAT WHEN YOU AND I HEAR MUSLIM SAY,
22:42 AH, "BUT, THE QURAN SAYS", THAT WE CAN GO TO ONE TEXT
22:46 AND FIND WHAT DOES THIS MEAN, WHY WERE THEY QUOTING THIS?
22:51 WHAT DOES THE MUSLIM THINK ABOUT THIS AND HOW DOES THE CHRISTIAN RESPOND TO THIS.
22:55 NOW LOOK, WHAT ABOUT THE SALMAN RUSHDIE EFFECT ON YOU AND YOUR BROTHER.
22:59 WELL, WE LIVE IN AMERICA. I'M AN AMERICAN CITIZEN.
23:02 I CAN'T BE PRESIDENT.
23:04 BRITNEY SPEARS CAN BE PRESIDENT, JANET JACKSON CAN BE PRESIDENT, I CAN'T BE PRESIDENT.
23:09 I'M AN IMMIGRANT, RIGHT, BUT, I'M AN AMERICAN CITIZEN PROUDLY
23:13 BECAUSE WHAT I HAVE IN AMERICA IS RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.
23:16 RELIGIOUS FREEDOM MEANS I HAVE THE RIGHT TO STAND IN FRONT OF A MOSQUE
23:19 AND TELL THEM THAT JESUS SAVES.
23:20 THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO STAND IN THEIR MOSQUE AND WORSHIP ALLAH, A DIFFERENT GOD.
23:24 A PERSON HAS THE RIGHT TO WORSHIP NOTHING IF THEY WISH.
23:27 ALL I ASK IS THEY GIVE US THE SAME RIGHT IN THEIR COUNTRIES
23:30 THAT WE AFFORD THEM HERE IN AMERICA.
23:32 A LITTLE FREEDOM--
23:34 ISLAM HAS RELIGIOUS TOLERATION, IT DOESN'T HAVE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.
23:38 THEY TOLERATE CHRISTIANS IN SYRIA, SAUDI ARABIA,
23:41 THEY ALLOW CHRISTIAN, WHO ARE ALREADY CHRISTIANS,
23:43 TO ENTER THEIR COUNTRIES, BUT YOU CANNOT BUILD A CHURCH.
23:47 YOU CAN NOT TELL A MUSLIM ABOUT CHRIST OR WIN A MUSLIM TO CHRIST.
23:50 TAKE THAT SAME THOUGHT TO JUDAISM, THEY DON'T ALLOW JEWS, DO THEY?
23:53 NO. >>I CAN'T IMAGINE BUILDING A SYNAGOGUE.
23:55 I FIND THIS SO ODD, SO AMAZING. EVERY TIME I SIT WITH YOU,
23:59 I THINK OF EVERYTHING I WAS TAUGHT AS A CHILD UNTIL I WAS ALMOST 20, ABOUT THE JEW,
24:05 THE VISCERAL HATRED THAT WE HAD FOR THE JEWS AND NOW,
24:11 I FIRST STARTED READING THROUGH THE BIBLE LIKE A TYPICAL NEW BELIEVER,
24:14 STARTED WITH MATTHEW AND I KEPT HEARING ALL THESE REFERENCES TO THE OLD TESTAMENT.
24:19 GOD HAD TO DO A SECOND WORK IN MY LIFE, NOT A SALVIFIC WORK.
24:24 BUT, GOD INSTILLED IN ME, A LOVE FOR THE JEW WHERE THERE HAD BEEN HATRED.
24:30 WHERE I HAD BEEN TAUGHT TO HATE, WHERE I HAD BEEN RAISED,
24:33 "AH, THE JEWS DRINK THE BLOOD OF OUR CHILDREN", WE WERE TAUGHT THIS,
24:36 THAT THE JEWS DRINK THE BLOOD LIABLE.
24:38 AND IT TURNS AROUND THAT THEY ARE THE CHILDREN OF GOD, THE PRIEST NATION.
24:42 SURE.
24:43 GOD HAS ALWAYS HAD HIS CHILDREN.
24:45 GOD HAS ALWAYS LOVED HIS CHILDREN.
24:47 NOW I FIND MYSELF IN THE POSITION WHERE,
24:49 I GET TO NOT ONLY START WATCHING YOUR PROGRAM AS A YOUNG BOY, AS A YOUNG BELIEVER,
24:53 BUT I GET TO SIT ACROSS THE DESK WITH YOU.
24:55 IT'S MY PRIVILEGE.
24:57 THIS IS SO AVERAGE, THAT SOMEBODY COMES TO LOVE THE JEW BECAUSE HE COMES TO THE LORD.
25:06 I DON'T' KNOW, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE IDEA,
25:09 WHEN I GO TO CHURCHES,ONE OUT OF 2,000 CHURCHES IN SOME STATES
25:15 WANTS TO HEAR ME TALK ABOUT ISRAEL AND PROPHECY IN THE JEWISH NATION,
25:18 THE COMING KINGDOM AND THE OTHERS DON'T CARE?
25:21 WHY DO SOME CHRISTIANS LOVE THE JEWISH PEOPLE? >>WHY SOME DON'T?
25:26 WELL, HERE WE GO BACK A TIE TO THE MUSLIM WORLD.
25:29 IN THE MUSLIM WORLD, WE HAD WHAT WE CALLED MBB, MUSLIM BACKGROUND BELIEVERS.
25:34 A LOT OF MBB STILL HAVE THIS VESTIGE OF HATRED FOR THE JEW,
25:40 BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE WERE TAUGHT, RAISED THIS WAY.
25:42 SO, WHAT DO THEY DO?
25:44 HOW DO THEY JUSTIFY HATING ANYBODY, CERTAINLY THE CHILDREN OF GOD?
25:47 HOW DO THEY JUSTIFY HATING THE GOD WHO CALLS HIMSELF THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB?
25:52 WELL, WHAT THEY DO IS THEY DEVELOP A THEOLOGY.
25:55 THEY DEVELOP A THEOLOGY THAT PUSHES THE JEW OUT OF THE DOOR,
25:59 REPLACES THE JEW WITH SOMETHING ELSE.
26:01 IN ISLAM, THEY REPLACE THE JEW WITH THE MUSLIM.
26:04 IN THE CHRISTIAN WORLD, THESE CHURCHES REPLACE THE JEW WITH THE CHURCH.
26:08 IF YOU CAN REPLACE THE JEW, HE'S NO LONGER THE APPLE IN GOD'S EYE.
26:11 IF YOU CAN REPLACE HIM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO LOVE HIM.
26:14 HE'S JUST AS RIGHT ON THAT, AS HE IS ON EVERYTHING ELSE.
26:17 HE'S ERGUN CANER.
26:19 TUNE IN NEXT WEEK BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE GREATEST THREAT TO ISRAEL,
26:24 HIS THEOLOGICAL HOLOCAUST THEORIES, THE SHARIA, THE AWFUL LAW OF THE MUSLIMS.
26:32 WE'LL TAKE UP THE SUBJECT OF BIN LADEN, IF YOU DON'T MIND
26:36 AND GET DOWN TO BUSINESS ABOUT THIS MUSLIM-JEWISH-CHRISTIAN THING.
26:42 WE'RE LIVING IN A TIME WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THE MUSLIMS,
26:47 THAT'S, IF ONLY FOR DEFENSIVE REASONS AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE GUEST LIKE AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
26:56 WE'VE HAD OTHERS, WHAT DID YOU CALL THEM, MBB MUSLIM BACKGROUND BELIEVERS.
27:01 THEY ARE LOVELY BELIEVERS, JUST EQUAL TO ANY OTHER CHRISTIAN.
27:09 SHA'ALU SHALOM YERUSHALAYIM, PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM.

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