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Episode: “The Tunnel”
Zola takes a tour through the tunnel under the western edge of the Temple Mount. From Jerusalem, we get a journalist’s perspective of the Palestinian uproar that occurred when the tunnel was opened to the public in September 1996.
Series: “The Stones Cry Out (2012)”
In recent decades, many marvelous, new archaeological discoveries have greatly illuminated and validated the biblical record. In order to film the archaeological sites and interview the experts, Zola Levitt, Thomas McCall, and the production crew of Zola Levitt Presents journeyed to Israel and Jordan. We found that, just as our Lord said about this remarkable Land, indeed The Stones Cry Out. (Luke 19:40) Myles and Katharine Weiss host this encore presentation, examining the archaeological discoveries that shed light on the Bible.
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Caption transcript for The Stones Cry Out (2012): “The Tunnel” (1/12)
- 00:02 (♪ "The Stones Cry Out" ♪)
- 00:08 ♪ ♪
- 00:24 Male Singer: ♪ IF NO ONE STANDS TO SPEAK, ♪
- 00:29 ♪ IF NO ONE PRAYS, ♪
- 00:35 ♪ THESE VERY STONES CRY OUT ♪
- 00:41 ♪ "I AM." ♪♪
- 00:46 Myles: SHALOM AND WELCOME
- 00:47 TO AN UPDATED SERIES,
- 00:49 "THE STONES CRY OUT."
- 00:50 THIS IS A WORK THAT ZOLA AND
- 00:52 TOM McCALL DID BACK IN THE '90s,
- 00:54 UNEARTHING THE ARCHAEOLOGICAL
- 00:56 EVIDENCE OF BIBLICAL TRUTH.
- 00:58 AND WE'RE THRILLED
- 00:59 TO BRING THIS TO YOU TODAY.
- 01:00 YOU KNOW, THIS VERY TITLE
- 01:02 IS BASED ON THE VERSE
- 01:03 FROM LUKE 19:40 WHERE JESUS SAID
- 01:06 THAT IF THE DISCIPLES
- 01:07 DIDN'T PRAISE HIM,
- 01:08 THE VERY STONES WOULD CRY OUT.
- 01:10 AND THEY ARE CRYING OUT
- 01:11 FROM ISRAEL, AREN'T THEY?
- 01:13 Katharine: CRYING OUT TODAY.
- 01:14 EACH AND EVERY DAY, THERE ARE
- 01:15 NEW ARCHAEOLOGICAL DIGS THAT ARE
- 01:17 BEING DISCOVERED THAT ARE
- 01:18 UNEARTHING HOW REAL THE BIBLE IS
- 01:22 AND HOW MUCH WE CAN KNOW.
- 01:24 OUR CAMERA CREW GOES FROM DAN
- 01:26 TO THE DEAD SEA,
- 01:27 FROM THE MEDITERRANEAN TO PETRA,
- 01:30 SHOWING AND TESTIFYING
- 01:32 OF THESE WONDERFUL STORIES.
- 01:34 Myles: IT'S REALLY AMAZING.
- 01:35 THERE'S SUCH CONTROVERSY TODAY.
- 01:37 THERE ARE SO MANY POLITICAL
- 01:38 VIEWS TRYING TO INTERFERE WITH
- 01:40 THE SCIENCE OF ARCHAEOLOGY
- 01:42 AND THE WAY THAT UNEARTHS
- 01:44 THAT THE BIBLE IS TRUE.
- 01:45 WELL, WE GET A CHANCE
- 01:46 IN THIS SERIES TO SHOW YOU HOW
- 01:48 THE STONES ARE CRYING OUT
- 01:50 AND HOW THE VERY EARTH
- 01:51 IS VERIFYING
- 01:52 THAT THE BIBLE IS TRUE.
- 01:53 IN THIS FIRST SEGMENT, ZOLA'S
- 01:56 GOING TO SPEAK TO DANNY BAHAT.
- 01:57 AND TOM McCALL
- 01:58 WILL SPEAK WITH DAVID DOLAN.
- 02:00 AND DANNY BAHAT IS GOING
- 02:01 TO SPEAK ABOUT THE UNEARTHING
- 02:02 OF THE HASMONIAN TUNNELS
- 02:04 AND THE TIME OF THE MACCABEES
- 02:06 AND HOW WHEN THAT WAS BROUGHT
- 02:07 OUT, ARAFAT, BACK IN THE DAY,
- 02:10 HE SAID THAT IT WAS INTERFERING
- 02:12 WITH THE AL-AQSA MOSQUE
- 02:13 AND IT CAUSED RIOTS
- 02:14 IN WHICH 70 PEOPLE WERE KILLED.
- 02:16 Katharine: IT'S SUCH A SHAME
- 02:17 THAT OUR NEWS REPORTERS
- 02:20 DIDN'T EVEN GO DOWN AND SEE
- 02:22 WHAT WAS BEING PROMOTED AS
- 02:25 SOMETHING THAT WAS INTERFERING
- 02:27 WITH MUSLIM HOLY SITES.
- 02:29 Myles: EXACTLY
- 02:30 Katharine: THIS IS WHY WE NEED
- 02:31 YOUR GIFTS OF FUNDS SO MUCH
- 02:33 DURING THIS TIME,
- 02:34 SO WE COULD ACCURATELY SHOW YOU
- 02:35 WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE LAND.
- 02:37 WE TAKE YOU TO ISRAEL AND
- 02:39 ACCURATELY SHOW YOU WHAT'S GOING
- 02:41 ON THROUGH THE SCRIPTURE'S EYE.
- 02:43 Myles: EXACTLY
- 02:44 AND SO NOW LET'S GO TO ZOLA
- 02:45 ON LOCATION WITH DANNY BAHAT.
- 02:49 Danny: THAT'S A VIEW
- 02:50 OF THE OLD CITY FROM THE NORTH.
- 02:52 YOU CAN SEE THE PRAYING PLAZA,
- 02:53 WHICH IS HERE.
- 02:54 OUR TUNNELS GO ALL THE WAY ALONG
- 02:56 THE WESTERN WALL AND THIS IS
- 02:58 THE POINT WHERE WE GO INTO
- 03:00 THE MACCABEAN AQUEDUCT WHICH
- 03:02 GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO HERE,
- 03:04 PAINTED IN BLUE.
- 03:05 THE LAST PART IS THE PART
- 03:07 THAT THE OFFICIAL TUNNEL
- 03:08 WAS MADE TO GO OUT HERE.
- 03:09 WE MADE THIS PLAN
- 03:11 IN ORDER TO SHOW, REALLY,
- 03:12 THAT WE'VE GOT NOTHING TO DO
- 03:14 WITH THE TEMPLE MOUNT PRECINCT.
- 03:15 WE ARE ALL THE WAY OUT
- 03:17 AND YOU SEE WE CAME EVEN FURTHER
- 03:19 FROM THE ABUTTING WALL TUNNEL
- 03:21 WHICH WE HAD BEFORE.
- 03:22 WE WENT ALL THE WAY,
- 03:23 AS FAR AS POSSIBLE,
- 03:25 TO ONE OF THE WIDEST STREETS
- 03:26 IN THE OLD CITY OF JERUSALEM.
- 03:27 Zola: THE ENTRANCE TO THE TUNNEL
- 03:28 IS HERE ON THE MAP
- 03:30 AND LOCATED ADJACENT
- 03:31 TO THE WESTERN WALL PLAZA.
- 03:33 DANNY AND I BEGAN OUR JOURNEY
- 03:35 AT THIS POINT.
- 03:37 THE LABYRINTH OF NARROW PASSAGES
- 03:39 IS MORE THAN 400 YARDS LONG
- 03:41 AND REVEALS OVER 2,000 YEARS
- 03:43 OF HISTORY.
- 03:44 THE FIRST SEGMENT OF THE TUNNEL
- 03:46 IS AN ARCHED WALKWAY
- 03:47 BUILT BY THE MAMLUKES
- 03:48 SOME 700 YEARS AGO.
- 03:50 ITS PURPOSE IS TO SUPPORT
- 03:52 THE ROADWAY ABOVE.
- 03:54 A FEW HUNDRED FEET FURTHER,
- 03:56 THE PASSAGEWAY OPENS INTO
- 03:57 A SPECTACULAR SUBTERRANEAN ROOM.
- 04:00 THE FINELY FASHIONED STONES
- 04:02 OF THIS HERODIAN STRUCTURE
- 04:04 SPEAK OF A JEWISH LEGACY DATING
- 04:05 BACK TO THE SECOND TEMPLE.
- 04:08 DANNY BAHAT EXPLAINS.
- 04:10 Danny: THIS ROOM, IT DATES FROM
- 04:11 THE TIME OF HEROD THE GREAT.
- 04:13 ACTUALLY, IT IS
- 04:15 THE ONLY BUILDING, HITHERTO,
- 04:17 FOUND IN THE COUNTRY,
- 04:19 ALL BUILT OF ASHLA, WHICH MEANS
- 04:21 SQUARE-CAST STONES IN SUCH
- 04:23 A MANNER IN THE MINOR BUILDING,
- 04:25 BECAUSE WE KNOW WE HAVE MASONRY,
- 04:28 BEAUTIFUL ASHLA MASONRY
- 04:29 ON THE WESTERN WALL IN THE CAVE
- 04:31 OF THE PATRIARCHS AT HEBRON.
- 04:33 BUT THERE'S A KIND OF A ROOM.
- 04:34 THIS IS THE FIRST ONE HITHERTO
- 04:36 DISCOVERED IN SUCH A SHAPE.
- 04:38 WHAT IS IT, REALLY, FROM HEROD'S
- 04:39 TIME, I DON'T REALLY KNOW.
- 04:42 THERE ARE MANY SUGGESTIONS LIKE
- 04:43 THE CHAMBER OF ASHLA, WHICH WAS
- 04:45 A SUPREME COURT OF APPEAL
- 04:47 DURING THE SECOND TEMPLE PERIOD,
- 04:48 BUT I DON'T KNOW.
- 04:49 Zola: YES
- 04:50 Danny: BUT, OTHERWISE,
- 04:51 IT MUST HAVE BEEN A BUILDING
- 04:52 OF GREAT IMPORTANCE.
- 04:53 THE PROBLEM IS THAT ITS SHAPE
- 04:55 WAS COMPLETELY DISTORTED
- 04:57 DURING THE EARLY ARAB PERIOD
- 04:59 WHEN IT WAS USED
- 05:00 AS A KIND OF A WORKSHOP,
- 05:01 WHERE THEY SMELTED METAL,
- 05:03 BECAUSE WHEN WE EXCAVATED HERE,
- 05:04 WE FOUND MANY SLAGS
- 05:07 AND OTHER FURNACES
- 05:08 AND ALL KIND OF THINGS.
- 05:10 WE, OF COURSE, CLEANED IT,
- 05:11 IN ORDER TO BRING IT
- 05:12 TO THE SHAPE AS IT WAS,
- 05:13 MORE OR LESS, AS IT WAS DURING
- 05:15 THE SECOND TEMPLE PERIOD...
- 05:16 LET'S SAY THE TIME OF CHRIST.
- 05:18 NOW, ALL TOGETHER,
- 05:19 WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY,
- 05:20 THAT WALKING ALL THE WAY HERE,
- 05:22 WE WALKED UNDER DOMES AND VAULTS
- 05:25 WHICH DATE FROM
- 05:26 THE LATE MEDIEVAL, NAMELY FROM
- 05:28 WHAT WE CALL THE MAMLUKE PERIOD,
- 05:29 14th, 15th CENTURY,
- 05:31 AND WE CAME DOWN TO THIS PLACE
- 05:33 WHICH IS 1st CENTURY B.C.
- 05:34 Zola: OKAY, AS WE WENT
- 05:36 DOWNSTAIRS, OF COURSE, WE WENT
- 05:38 BACK HUNDREDS OF YEARS...
- 05:39 A THOUSAND YEARS.
- 05:40 Danny: IT'S TRUE.
- 05:41 THAT'S THE IDEA BECAUSE,
- 05:42 YOU SEE, THE SYSTEM OF TUNNELS
- 05:46 WHERE WE ARE NOW,
- 05:47 WHICH STARTED TO BE AND WHICH
- 05:49 THEY STARTED TO DIG IN 1968,
- 05:52 FOLLOWING THE SIX DAY WAR,
- 05:54 THIS SYSTEM OF TUNNELS I THINK
- 05:57 TODAY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT SITE
- 05:58 IN JERUSALEM.
- 05:59 WHY, BECAUSE THE HISTORY
- 06:01 OF JERUSALEM HAS UNDERGONE MANY
- 06:03 VICISSITUDES DURING HISTORY.
- 06:05 AND IN THESE TUNNELS
- 06:07 EVERY PERIOD OF THOSE PERIODS
- 06:09 IS SOMEHOW REPRESENTED.
- 06:11 IT MAY BE, FOR EXAMPLE,
- 06:12 THE EARLY ARAB, IT APPEARS,
- 06:14 IS PRESENTED BY REPAIRED WALLS
- 06:16 OF THE WESTERN WALL.
- 06:17 THE MAMLUKE,
- 06:18 THEY COVERED THE WESTERN WALL
- 06:20 IN ORDER TO LIFT
- 06:22 OR, ACTUALLY, TO, YES, TO RAISE
- 06:25 THE LEVEL OF THE OLD CITY
- 06:26 TO THE PRESENT LEVEL
- 06:28 BECAUSE OF VARIOUS OTHER REASONS
- 06:30 TO WHICH WE WILL REFER LATER.
- 06:31 AND ALL TOGETHER EVERY PERIOD
- 06:33 IS REPRESENTED SOMEHOW.
- 06:35 THIS ROOM IS ACTUALLY THE ACME
- 06:38 OF THE SECOND TEMPLE PERIOD
- 06:40 IF WE DON'T SPEAK ABOUT
- 06:41 THE WESTERN WALL,
- 06:42 BECAUSE THE WESTERN WALL,
- 06:43 OF COURSE, IS THE REASON
- 06:44 FOR THE WHOLE THING.
- 06:45 Zola: NOW, THIS, RUNNING
- 06:47 NEARBY HERE, ARE TWO TUNNELS.
- 06:50 THE ONE I UNDERSTOOD
- 06:51 THE ARCHAEOLOGIST BUILT IN ORDER
- 06:52 TO STUDY ALONG THE WESTERN WALL.
- 06:55 THE OTHER IS THE ONE
- 06:56 THAT WAS IN THE NEWS RECENTLY.
- 06:57 Danny: YES, WE HAVE EXCAVATED
- 06:59 TWO OF THEM.
- 07:00 ACTUALLY, THE FIRST ONE,
- 07:02 AS YOU SAID,
- 07:03 IS AN ARTIFICIAL TUNNEL BORED
- 07:05 BY ARCHAEOLOGISTS SINCE 1968
- 07:08 IN ORDER TO EXPOSE
- 07:09 THE WESTERN WALL.
- 07:11 WE WENT ALONG ALL KINDS
- 07:12 OF SYSTEMS OF RETAINING WALLS,
- 07:14 VAULTS, ARCHES, ALL KIND OF
- 07:16 THINGS WHICH ARE STILL TO BE
- 07:18 ANALYZED BUT IN PRINCIPLE
- 07:19 WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE.
- 07:21 AT THE END OF IT, WE CAME
- 07:24 INTO A TUNNEL WHICH WAS BOUGHT
- 07:26 BY THE MACCABEES
- 07:27 NAMELY IN THE 2nd CENTURY B.C.
- 07:30 IT IS CALLED EITHER MACCABEES OR
- 07:32 HASMONEANS, WHICH IS SYNONYMS.
- 07:34 Zola: ABOUT 200 YEARS
- 07:35 BEFORE CHRIST.
- 07:36 Danny: 200 YEARS BEFORE CHRIST.
- 07:38 NOW THE THING IS THAT THIS IS
- 07:40 SOMETHING OF EXTREME IMPORTANCE,
- 07:43 NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BEAUTY
- 07:44 OF THE SITE,
- 07:45 WHICH WE'LL SEE LATER.
- 07:46 NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF
- 07:47 THE IMPRESSION ONE GETS WHEN
- 07:48 HE WALKS THERE, BUT ALSO BECAUSE
- 07:51 IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT REMAINS
- 07:52 EVER FOUND IN THIS COUNTRY
- 07:54 BEFORE, PERTAINING TO
- 07:56 THE MACCABEAN PERIOD.
- 07:58 THIS IS REALLY UNIQUE.
- 08:00 ALSO, BECAUSE OF THAT,
- 08:01 WE HAVE EXPOSED THE REMAINS
- 08:03 WHICH ARE VERY SCANT,
- 08:05 BUT STILL ARE QUITE SIGNIFICANT
- 08:06 OF THE PALACE OF THE MACCABEES,
- 08:09 WHICH WAS TO THE NORTH OF
- 08:10 THE TEMPLE MOUNT OF THAT TIME,
- 08:12 COMPLETELY DESTROYED AND
- 08:13 SHAVED AWAY BY HEROD THE GREAT,
- 08:16 WHEN HE EXTENDED
- 08:17 THE TEMPLE MOUNT
- 08:18 AND BUILT ANTONIA FORTRESS,
- 08:19 THE FAMOUS FORTRESS WHICH PLAYED
- 08:21 SUCH AN IMPORTANT ROLE
- 08:22 IN EARLY CHRISTIANITY.
- 08:24 Zola: OKAY, THE MACCABEES
- 08:25 WERE A FAMILY THAT EXISTED
- 08:29 AND REVOLTED AGAINST
- 08:30 THE SYRO-PHOENICIANS
- 08:32 WHO WERE CONTROLLING THE LAND
- 08:34 AGAINST ANTIOCHUS, IF I'M RIGHT,
- 08:36 AND THEY HAD A PALACE HERE
- 08:39 AS YOU'RE EXPLAINING.
- 08:40 Danny: NOW THAT FAMILY IT WAS...
- 08:42 CAME ACTUALLY, IT WAS
- 08:43 THE RULER OF AUTOCRACY
- 08:45 IN OUR COUNTRY IN JUDAH.
- 08:47 AND IN THE 2nd CENTURY WHEN
- 08:49 THERE WERE TWO TRENDS AMONGST
- 08:50 THE JEWS LIVING IN THE COUNTRY
- 08:52 WHO WERE UNDER THE YOKE
- 08:54 OF THE SELEUCIDS.
- 08:55 THE SELEUCIDS WERE THE HEIRS
- 08:56 OF ALEXANDER THE GREAT.
- 08:58 NOW THERE WERE TWO TENDENCIES
- 09:00 IN THE COUNTRY, TO ACCEPT
- 09:01 THE HELLENISTIC WAY OF LIFE,
- 09:03 OR TO PRESERVE
- 09:05 THE AUTHENTIC JEWISH LIFE.
- 09:06 Zola: OKAY.
- 09:07 Danny: THE FIGHT
- 09:08 ALMOST ENDED WITH ENCOURAGEMENT
- 09:10 OF THE SELEUCIDS,
- 09:11 NAMELY OF THE THOSE, LET'S SAY
- 09:12 GREEK-ORIENTATED RULERS
- 09:15 OF THE COUNTRY TO GO INTO
- 09:17 REALLY GREEK-ORIENTATED WAY
- 09:19 OF LIFE, BUT THERE WAS A KIND OF
- 09:22 A ZEAL AMONGST THE RURAL PEOPLE
- 09:26 TO MAINTAIN JEWISH WAYS OF LIFE.
- 09:28 THAT FAMILY, WHICH COMES FROM
- 09:29 A LITTLE TOWN NAMED MODI'IN,
- 09:31 WHICH IS NOT FAR FROM JERUSALEM.
- 09:32 IT'S ABOUT 30 KILOMETERS
- 09:34 FROM JERUSALEM.
- 09:35 THEY REBELLED AND THEY MANAGED
- 09:37 TO ORGANIZE A WHOLE REVOLT
- 09:39 AGAINST THE SELEUCIDS.
- 09:41 FINALLY JUDAH
- 09:42 RECEIVED ITS INDEPENDENCE,
- 09:44 AND FOR OVER 200 YEARS, JUDAH
- 09:46 WAS AN INDEPENDENT COUNTRY.
- 09:48 Zola: AND THAT ESTABLISHED
- 09:49 A HOLIDAY CALLED "HANUKKAH."
- 09:52 Danny: BECAUSE OF THE VICTORY
- 09:53 WE CELEBRATE TO THIS VERY DAY,
- 09:54 THE HANUKKAH HOLY DAY, WHICH IS
- 09:57 ACTUALLY TO COMMEMORATE NOT ONLY
- 09:58 THE VICTORY OF THE SELEUCIDS
- 10:00 AND THEIR CONSTRUCTION
- 10:01 OF THE TEMPLE,
- 10:02 BUT ALSO IT IS IN ORDER
- 10:04 TO COMMEMORATE THE GREAT MIRACLE
- 10:06 WHICH OCCURRED WHEN THE JEWS
- 10:07 MANAGED TO KINDLE
- 10:09 THE CANDELABRUM FOR 8 DAYS,
- 10:12 ALTHOUGH THE EWER,
- 10:13 THE LITTLE PURE OIL THEY FOUND,
- 10:15 COULD SUFFICE FOR ONLY ONE DAY.
- 10:16 AND THIS IS REALLY
- 10:17 THE MAIN REASON
- 10:18 BECAUSE IT WAS A MIRACLE;
- 10:19 IT WAS A DIVINE MIRACLE.
- 10:20 Zola: TO TAKE YOUR ATTENTION
- 10:21 BACK TO THE TUNNEL THEN,
- 10:23 IT IS SORT OF--
- 10:24 WELL, IT'S MORE THAN SORT OF,
- 10:26 IT IS A REAL PROOF
- 10:27 OF THE JEWISH PRIMACY
- 10:29 IN THIS LAND AT THAT TIME.
- 10:30 Danny: DEFINITELY.
- 10:31 WHEN WE WOULD WALK
- 10:32 ALONG THE WESTERN WALL
- 10:34 OF THE TEMPLE MOUNT,
- 10:35 YOU MUST REMEMBER THAT YOU ARE
- 10:36 ACTUALLY WALKING ALONG
- 10:38 THE MOST MAGNIFICENT STRUCTURE
- 10:40 IN ANTIQUITY.
- 10:41 I ALWAYS SAY,
- 10:42 IN A KIND OF A JOKE,
- 10:44 THAT THE WORLD KNOWS ABOUT SEVEN
- 10:45 MARVELS OF THE ANCIENT WORLD.
- 10:48 I SAY ALWAYS THERE WERE NINE.
- 10:50 THE NINTH BEING, WHY DIDN'T
- 10:51 THE TEMPLE MOUNT IN JERUSALEM
- 10:53 BECOME THE EIGHTH?
- 10:54 BECAUSE, BY FAR MORE,
- 10:56 IT EXCEEDS ANY OTHER STRUCTURE
- 10:58 OF ANTIQUITY.
- 11:00 FOR EXAMPLE,
- 11:01 IF ONE OF THE MARVELS WERE
- 11:03 THE GREAT PYRAMIDS OF EGYPT AND
- 11:04 YOU COULD TAKE THREE AND A HALF
- 11:06 OF THE GREAT PYRAMIDS AND
- 11:07 PUT THEM ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT.
- 11:10 NOW, THE THING IS, THAT IT IS
- 11:11 REALLY A UNIQUE STRUCTURE
- 11:13 AND YOU'LL SEE WE ARE WALKING
- 11:14 AND WALKING AND WALKING ALONG
- 11:16 ONE MORE WALL WHICH ORIGINALLY
- 11:18 WAS VERY HIGH, IN SOME PLACES
- 11:20 OVER 200 FEET HIGH.
- 11:22 AND YOU ARE WALKING ALONG IT
- 11:23 WITH BEAUTIFUL MASONRY,
- 11:25 VERY WELL EXECUTED,
- 11:27 SO ALL THAT CAN REALLY GIVE YOU
- 11:28 REALLY THE IMPRESSION
- 11:29 OF HOW BIG IT WAS.
- 11:30 THE PROBLEM WE HAVE TODAY THAT,
- 11:32 UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAME AGAIN
- 11:34 TO THAT PHASE WHEN WE'VE GOT TO
- 11:36 PROVE THAT JERUSALEM IS HOLY
- 11:38 TO US AND THE TEMPLE MOUNT
- 11:39 WAS BUILT BY A JEWISH KING.
- 11:41 AND THIS IS SOMETHING WHICH
- 11:42 I THOUGHT WILL NEVER OCCUR AGAIN
- 11:44 AND INDEED, IT COMES HERE AGAIN
- 11:46 BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
- 11:47 WE'VE GOT TO BE A KIND OF--
- 11:49 TO TRY TO EXPLAIN
- 11:50 WHAT WE ARE DOING AND HOW.
- 11:51 THE JEWS WHO PRAY AT
- 11:53 THE WESTERN WALL WANT TO KNOW--
- 11:55 WHICH IS THE HOLIEST PLACE
- 11:56 FOR JUDAISM AT PRESENT--
- 11:58 WANT TO KNOW ALSO TO SAY
- 12:00 THE SECRETS OF THE WESTERN WALL,
- 12:02 WHERE DOES IT START,
- 12:03 WHERE DOES IT END?
- 12:04 AND THIS WAS REALLY THE PURPOSE
- 12:05 OF THE TUNNEL,
- 12:06 OF DIGGING THE TUNNEL,
- 12:07 AND I THINK WE GIVE
- 12:08 ALL THE ANSWERS
- 12:09 IN A MOST SATISFACTORY MANNER.
- 12:10 Zola: YEAH.
- 12:11 SO NOW, WITH THIS TUNNEL DUG,
- 12:13 PEOPLE FROM THE WALL CAN WALK
- 12:15 ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND COME OUT
- 12:17 AT THE VIA DOLOROSA IN
- 12:18 THE MUSLIM QUARTER OF JERUSALEM.
- 12:20 Danny: WHICH MEANS THEY CAN WALK
- 12:21 OVER I WOULD SAY ABOUT 400 YARDS
- 12:25 TO SEE THE GREATNESS
- 12:27 OF THE WESTERN WALL AND TO COME
- 12:28 OUT IN THE VIA DOLOROSA TODAY.
- 12:32 Zola: WHEN WE RETURN, WE'LL
- 12:33 JOURNEY DEEP INSIDE THE TUNNEL,
- 12:35 TO THE VERY BASE
- 12:36 OF THE WESTERN WALL.
- 12:37 AND, LATER ON, WHY DID THE MEDIA
- 12:39 MAKE SO MANY MISTAKES IN
- 12:41 REPORTING THE TUNNEL INCIDENT?
- 12:43 WE'LL GET A JOURNALIST'S
- 12:44 PERSPECTIVE.
- 12:45 David Dolan: AND I THINK THERE
- 12:46 WAS A REAL STEPPING BACK
- 12:48 AND SAYING WE'LL JUST REPORT
- 12:50 WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING,
- 12:51 WE WON'T ACTUALLY GO IN AND DO
- 12:52 ANY INVESTIGATIVE REPORTING
- 12:53 OURSELVES, THAT'S THE SAFEST WAY
- 12:55 TO APPROACH IT.
- 12:56 ♪ ♪
- 13:05 ♪ ♪
- 13:39 Katharine: ISRAEL...
- 13:40 THE LAND OF COVENANTS...
- 13:41 THE LAND WHERE THE BIBLE
- 13:42 COMES ALIVE AND HIS VOICE
- 13:44 IS EVEN LOUDER THAN EVER.
- 13:45 Myles: I KNOW.
- 13:46 IT'S REALLY TRUE.
- 13:47 THE LAST TIME WE WERE IN ISRAEL
- 13:49 ONE OF OUR PILGRIMS FOUND A COIN
- 13:50 FROM THE MACCABEAN ERA.
- 13:52 THIS VERY SERIES THAT WE'RE
- 13:53 DOING, "THE STONES CRY OUT," IS
- 13:55 BEING VERIFIED EVEN IN OUR DAY,
- 13:57 SO YOU WANT TO COME TO ISRAEL
- 13:58 WITH US.
- 13:59 ANOTHER WAY TO STUDY
- 14:00 YOUR JEWISH-CHRISTIAN ROOTS
- 14:02 IS TO RECEIVE OUR INSTITUTE
- 14:04 OF JEWISH-CHRISTIAN STUDIES.
- 14:06 IT'S AN AMAZING PACKET
- 14:07 OF TEACHING THAT CAME
- 14:09 FROM JEFF SEIF AND ZOLA LEVITT.
- 14:11 THERE'S ONE CD, THREE CDs,
- 14:12 OR THE ENTIRE SEGMENT OF 12 CDs
- 14:15 THAT YOU CAN RECEIVE.
- 14:16 IN FACT, IT'S BEEN SO--HAD SUCH
- 14:17 AN IMPACT ON SOME OF OUR PEOPLE,
- 14:19 THAT WE WANT TO HEAR FROM
- 14:20 ONE OF OUR STUDENTS RIGHT NOW.
- 14:23 Britnni Rummel: I WOULD
- 14:24 RECOMMEND THIS INSTITUTE
- 14:25 BECAUSE IT REALLY HELPED ME
- 14:26 DEEPEN MY RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.
- 14:28 GOING BACK AND LEARNING ABOUT
- 14:29 THE OLD TESTAMENT STUDIES, THERE
- 14:31 ARE A LOT OF CRAZY AND CONFUSING
- 14:33 THINGS IN THERE SOMETIMES, AND
- 14:34 TO REALLY GO BACK AND UNDERSTAND
- 14:36 THE CONTEXT OF IT, REALLY
- 14:38 HELPED ME WITH CHRISTIANITY,
- 14:40 BECAUSE WE HAVE HEBREW ROOTS.
- 14:41 WHAT DOES THAT ACTUALLY MEAN?
- 14:43 IT TEACHES YOU WHAT IT MEANS
- 14:45 AND WHAT IT WAS INTENDED FOR AND
- 14:47 IT JUST REALLY BRINGS ME BACK
- 14:48 TO YESHUA AND WHAT LIFE WAS LIKE
- 14:51 FOR HIM, AND IT REALLY JUST
- 14:52 STRENGTHENED AND DEEPENED MY
- 14:53 RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD OVERALL.
- 14:56 Myles: I SO APPRECIATE
- 14:57 THAT TESTIMONY; YOU KNOW,
- 14:58 THIS IS NOT JUST A CD COURSE.
- 15:01 THIS IS COMPARABLE
- 15:03 TO A BIBLE COLLEGE COURSE.
- 15:04 THE RESOURCE THIS WEEK
- 15:05 IS THE ENTIRE INSTITUTE
- 15:07 OF JEWISH-CHRISTIAN STUDIES.
- 15:09 I REMEMBER BRINGING A PASTOR
- 15:10 TO ISRAEL AND HE SAID,
- 15:11 "I WISH I HAD DONE THIS
- 15:12 35 YEARS AGO IN SEMINARY."
- 15:14 THIS IS THE EQUIVALENT
- 15:16 OF A SEMINARY COURSE
- 15:17 IN JEWISH-CHRISTIAN STUDIES.
- 15:19 Katharine: YEAH, THIS COURSE
- 15:21 WILL NOT ONLY INSPIRE YOU
- 15:23 IN THE WORD AND IN
- 15:24 THE JEWISHNESS OF THE GOSPEL,
- 15:26 BUT IT'LL EDUCATE YOU
- 15:27 IN YOUR HERITAGE THAT YOU HAVE
- 15:29 AS A SON OF ABRAHAM.
- 15:30 AND IT ALSO WILL HELP US
- 15:32 TO CONTINUE TO BRING YOU
- 15:33 THESE PROGRAMS THAT
- 15:35 WE LOVE TO BRING YOU FROM ISRAEL
- 15:37 AND FROM THE HEART OF GOD.
- 15:39 Myles: YES, SO LET'S GO BACK
- 15:41 TO ZOLA ON LOCATION
- 15:42 AT THE WESTERN WALL.
- 15:45 Danny: AT FIRST, WHAT WE SEE
- 15:46 HERE IS THE WESTERN WALL
- 15:48 TO OUR RIGHT-HAND SIDE.
- 15:49 THIS IS ACTUALLY THE LAST POINT
- 15:51 IN IT, AND IT IS ALL CARVED IN
- 15:53 THE ROCK BECAUSE HEROD THE GREAT
- 15:56 REALLY DESTROYED EVERYTHING
- 15:58 WHICH WAS BEFORE HIM.
- 16:00 AND WHAT HE DID WAS TO PUT HERE,
- 16:04 DOWN BELOW, IT IS NATURAL ROCK,
- 16:06 AND TO BRING ONE COURSE
- 16:08 OF STONES, WHICH WAS HERE.
- 16:09 Zola: OH, THIS IS ON TOP
- 16:10 OF THE BEDROCK.
- 16:11 Danny: YES, THAT'S BEDROCK.
- 16:12 DOWN BELOW, THIS IS BEDROCK
- 16:14 AND ABOVE IT, THE BUILDERS.
- 16:15 BUT THE MOST EXCITING OF ALL
- 16:17 THE STONES IN THE WESTERN WALL
- 16:19 IS THE ONE WHICH YOU SEE HERE,
- 16:20 BECAUSE HERE YOU CAN SEE
- 16:21 HOW HE BROUGHT IT
- 16:22 FROM THE QUARRY.
- 16:24 SEE...COMPLETELY ROUGH.
- 16:25 HERE YOU SEE THE CONCENTRIC
- 16:26 MOVEMENTS OF THE CHISELS,
- 16:28 WHERE THEY SMOOTH IT,
- 16:29 AND HERE IT IS,
- 16:30 ALREADY FINISHED.
- 16:31 IT IS THE ONLY STONE
- 16:32 ALONG THE ENTIRE STORY
- 16:34 WHERE YOU CAN SEE ON ONE STONE,
- 16:36 YOU CAN SEE THIS...
- 16:37 YOU CAN SEE THIS...
- 16:38 AND YOU CAN SEE THAT.
- 16:39 Zola: OH YES.
- 16:40 Danny: SO IT SHOWS US THAT,
- 16:41 ACTUALLY, ALL THE STONES
- 16:42 WERE HEWN WHEN THEY WERE
- 16:44 ALREADY INSTALLED IN PLACE.
- 16:45 Zola: I SEE.
- 16:46 Danny: YOU UNDERSTAND IT..
- 16:47 HE BROUGHT IT,
- 16:48 ROUGHLY HE WORKED ON IT ON SITE
- 16:51 AND HERE IT IS,
- 16:52 THE FINAL SHAPE OF IT.
- 16:53 YOU SEE, HERE'S ANOTHER STONE
- 16:55 LIKE THAT.
- 16:56 THIS ONE IS, AGAIN,
- 16:57 YOU SEE, IT IS ALREADY SMOOTH
- 16:58 AND BEAUTIFUL, BUT HERE,
- 16:59 YOU CAN SEE IT IS VERY ROUGH.
- 17:00 Zola: OH, YES.
- 17:01 Danny: NOW, WE ARE NOW--
- 17:02 THIS IS THE END
- 17:03 OF THE WESTERN WALL.
- 17:04 THE WESTERN WALL ENDS HERE
- 17:05 LIKE THAT...AND AS WE GO,
- 17:07 THIS LITTLE FLIGHT OF STEPS,
- 17:08 WE'LL FIND OURSELVES
- 17:09 IN THE MACCABEAN TUNNEL.
- 17:11 Zola: AT THIS POINT,
- 17:12 WE LEFT A SEGMENT OF TUNNEL
- 17:14 DUG BY ARCHAEOLOGISTS AND
- 17:16 WE ENTERED THE HASMONEAN TUNNEL.
- 17:18 ORIGINALLY AN AQUEDUCT, IT WAS
- 17:20 CONSTRUCTED OVER 2,000 YEARS AGO
- 17:22 TO SUPPLY WATER TO THE
- 17:23 MACCABEAN PALACE FURTHER SOUTH.
- 17:26 THE WINDING CHANNEL WALLS
- 17:27 STRETCH HIGHER AND HIGHER,
- 17:29 TOWARD THE OLD CITY ABOVE.
- 17:30 Danny: YOU SEE HOW IT'S GOING
- 17:31 HIGHER AND HIGHER?
- 17:32 Zola: YES.
- 17:33 Danny: THE REASON IS THAT
- 17:34 ACTUALLY THEY NEVER BORED IT
- 17:35 AS A TUNNEL.
- 17:37 THEY EXCAVATED IT FROM TOP
- 17:39 AND THEN THEY COVERED IT
- 17:40 WITH SLABS
- 17:41 AND THEN IT BECAME A TUNNEL.
- 17:42 BUT THE THING IS, THE HILL IS
- 17:45 HIGHER THE FURTHER NORTH WE GO
- 17:47 AND IF WE GO NORTHWARDS...
- 17:48 LOOK AT THAT...
- 17:49 AT REALLY LOOKS LIKE A CANYON
- 17:51 IN THE DESERT.
- 17:52 NOW THE THING IS, THAT IT WAS
- 17:53 MADE BY THE MACCABEES IN ORDER
- 17:55 TO SUPPLY WATER TO THEIR PALACE.
- 17:58 TILL THE DISCOVERY OF
- 17:59 THIS TUNNEL WHICH, BY THE WAY,
- 18:01 WAS DISCOVERED ALREADY
- 18:02 IN THE 19th CENTURY,
- 18:04 BUT THE EXPLORERS THERE DIDN'T
- 18:05 UNDERSTAND WHAT EXACTLY IT WAS.
- 18:07 SO WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY DIDN'T
- 18:10 KNOW TO WHOM TO ATTRIBUTE IT.
- 18:12 NOW WE KNOW VERY WELL
- 18:13 THAT IT IS PRE-HERODIAN, BECAUSE
- 18:15 HEROD THE GREAT BUILT A DAM HERE
- 18:18 IN ORDER TO STOP THE WATER
- 18:20 WHICH CAME ALONG THIS AQUEDUCT;
- 18:23 ACTUALLY TO STOP IT
- 18:25 FROM GOING INTO THE WESTERN WALL
- 18:26 AND TO FLOOD HIS WALKS THERE.
- 18:29 BUT THE FANTASTIC THING IS THAT
- 18:30 WHEN WE GO UP TO THE TOP
- 18:32 AND YOU SEE THE CANYON,
- 18:33 THE VIEW OVER THE CANYON
- 18:34 IS REALLY MARVELOUS.
- 18:36 AND IF YOU THINK THAT YOU ARE
- 18:37 UNDER THE OLD CITY
- 18:39 IT IS REALLY FASCINATING.
- 18:40 Zola: OH, YES.
- 18:42 Danny: WE MADE A GLASS BRIDGE
- 18:43 SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT WATER
- 18:45 STILL FLOWS UNDERNEATH.
- 18:46 Zola: OH, YES.
- 18:47 Danny: YOU CAN SEE IT
- 18:48 DOWN THERE.
- 18:49 YOU SEE, THE CEILING
- 18:50 IS REFLECTED IN THE WATER.
- 18:52 Zola: OH, YES.
- 18:53 Danny: AND THIS IS REALLY
- 18:54 A UNIQUE THING ALTOGETHER TO SEE
- 18:56 THE ENTIRE HEIGHT OF THE TUNNELS
- 18:58 FROM BOTTOM TO TOP.
- 19:00 Zola: WE CONTINUED OUR ASCENT TO
- 19:02 THE END OF THE HASMONEAN SEGMENT
- 19:03 OF THE TUNNEL, ENTERING THE
- 19:04 FINAL PART OF THE TUNNEL SYSTEM.
- 19:06 EXCAVATION COMPLETED HERE
- 19:08 IN 1993 STOPPED 12 INCHES SHORT
- 19:11 OF BREAKING THROUGH
- 19:12 ONTO THE VIA DOLOROSA,
- 19:14 SHOWN HERE ON THE MAP,
- 19:15 TRADITION HOLDS
- 19:17 CHRIST WALKED THIS STREET
- 19:18 TO HIS CRUCIFIXION.
- 19:20 FINALLY IN 1996,
- 19:22 NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN ISLAMIC
- 19:24 AND JEWISH AUTHORITIES RESULTED
- 19:25 IN THE APPROVAL AND CREATION
- 19:27 OF THE TUNNEL EXIT.
- 19:29 AT FIRST ALL WAS CALM, HOWEVER,
- 19:31 PALESTINIAN LEADER YASSER ARAFAT
- 19:33 MADE MISLEADING STATEMENTS
- 19:34 REGARDING THE TUNNEL LOCATION
- 19:36 WHICH INCITED RIOTS, KILLING 70
- 19:39 AND INJURING HUNDREDS.
- 19:40 SPEAKING NEAR THE EXIT, DANNY
- 19:42 EXPLAINS ARAFAT'S DECEPTION.
- 19:44 Danny: HE DIFFUSED,
- 19:46 IN THE INTERNET AND EVERYWHERE,
- 19:48 A MAP OF OUR TUNNELS AS IF
- 19:49 THEY GO UNDER THE TWO MOSQUES
- 19:51 ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT.
- 19:54 WE PUBLISHED A MAP OF THE WALK,
- 19:55 AS WE DO IN EVERY EXCAVATION.
- 19:57 AND HE TOOK THE SAME MAP
- 19:58 WHICH WAS PUBLISHED,
- 20:00 AND MOVED IT, THE TUNNEL.
- 20:01 HE PUT ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT
- 20:04 BETWEEN THE TWO MOSQUES.
- 20:05 THAT'S WHAT HE DID.
- 20:06 AND EVERYONE BELIEVED--
- 20:08 NO ONE COULD BELIEVE THAT
- 20:09 THE LEADER OF LET'S SAY A NATION
- 20:11 WITH NATIONAL ASPIRATIONS
- 20:12 CAN LIE TO THE WORLD
- 20:13 IN SUCH A MANNER.
- 20:15 AND THIS IS ACTUALLY
- 20:16 WHAT HE DID.
- 20:17 David Dolan: THIS POLITICALLY
- 20:18 THREATENS...
- 20:19 Zola: DAVID DOLAN,
- 20:20 VETERAN JOURNALIST AND RESIDENT
- 20:21 OF JERUSALEM SPOKE WITH
- 20:22 DR. McCALL ABOUT THE EVENTS.
- 20:24 Tom McCALL: WHY DO WE GET
- 20:25 THIS KIND OF WRONG INFORMATION
- 20:28 OR MISINFORMATION
- 20:29 OR DISINFORMATION?
- 20:31 David: THE PALESTINIANS
- 20:32 PRESENTED IT AS A TUNNEL
- 20:34 THAT AFFECTED THE MOSQUE
- 20:36 ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT.
- 20:37 SO THEY LEFT THE IMPRESSION THAT
- 20:40 IT DID GO ACTUALLY UNDERNEATH
- 20:41 THE TEMPLE MOUNT AND THE MEDIA
- 20:43 JUST REPORTED THAT WITHOUT
- 20:45 ACTUALLY CHECKING ON THE FACTS,
- 20:47 GOING DOWN THERE
- 20:49 AND LOOKING AT IT OR WHATEVER.
- 20:50 AND IT TOOK A FEW DAYS
- 20:52 FOR IT TO BE CLARIFIED EVEN HERE
- 20:54 LOCALLY, HERE IN THE MEDIA, THAT
- 20:56 THIS TUNNEL RUNS ON THE OUTSIDE
- 20:58 OF THE WESTERN WALL; THAT
- 21:00 IT'S AN ANCIENT TUNNEL, NOTHING
- 21:02 THAT HAS JUST BEEN BUILT.
- 21:03 IT WAS AN ANCIENT WATER TUNNEL
- 21:05 AT THE HASMONEAN PERIOD
- 21:06 AND THEREFORE HAS NOTHING
- 21:07 TO DO WITH THE MOSQUE ITSELF.
- 21:09 BUT, AGAIN, IT'S PRECISELY
- 21:11 ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT ITSELF
- 21:13 THAT THE ISLAMIC CLAIM TO BE
- 21:16 THE FINAL REVELATION OF TRUTH,
- 21:17 THE FINAL FAITH,
- 21:19 THE SUPREME FAITH WAS,
- 21:21 THEY BELIEVED, CONCRETELY
- 21:23 DEMONSTRATED BY THEM
- 21:24 CAPTURING THE TEMPLE MOUNT FROM,
- 21:26 AT THAT TIME IN 638,
- 21:28 BYZANTINE CHRISTIANS.
- 21:30 Zola: AND YET THESE TUNNELS THAT
- 21:31 YOU HAVE EXCAVATED SHOW THAT YOU
- 21:34 WERE HERE MANY CENTURIES BEFORE
- 21:36 THE BIRTH OF MOHAMMAD EVEN.
- 21:38 Danny: DEFINITELY.
- 21:39 IT WAS THE JEWS WHO BROUGHT
- 21:41 THE ARABS HERE DURING THE
- 21:42 CREATION OF THE ISLAMIC EMPIRE
- 21:45 IN THE 7th CENTURY
- 21:46 BECAUSE WHEN THEY CAME HERE,
- 21:48 THEY DIDN'T KNOW
- 21:49 WHAT THEY ARE COMING TO.
- 21:50 IT WAS A CONVERTED JEW,
- 21:51 A MAN CALLED KA'AB AL-AHBAR WHO
- 21:53 BROUGHT THEM AND SHOWED THEM THE
- 21:55 HOLINESS OF THE TEMPLE MOUNT.
- 21:57 AND THEY WERE DELIBERATING.
- 21:58 AND WE'VE GOT IT
- 21:59 FROM ARAB SOURCES.
- 22:00 THEY WERE DELIBERATING WHERE
- 22:01 TO BUILD THE MOSQUE BECAUSE THEY
- 22:03 HAD NO--THERE WAS NO IMPORTANCE
- 22:05 WHATSOEVER TO JERUSALEM
- 22:06 IN THEIR EYES.
- 22:08 Tom: AND ARCHAEOLOGY IS AT THE
- 22:09 HEART OF THIS WHOLE CONTROVERSY
- 22:12 OVER WHO OWNS WHAT
- 22:14 AND WHO HAS THE MOST CLAIM
- 22:17 TO THESE PROPERTIES.
- 22:20 IT'S AN AMAZING THING THAT
- 22:21 ARCHAEOLOGY WOULD HAVE SUCH AN
- 22:23 IMPACT ON INTERNATIONAL HISTORY.
- 22:27 David: WELL, IT IS, AND IT'S
- 22:28 A FRUSTRATING THING FOR LOCAL
- 22:30 ARCHAEOLOGISTS WHO JUST WANT
- 22:32 TO GO OUT AND DO THEIR JOB.
- 22:34 I'M TALKING ABOUT ISRAELIS
- 22:35 AND ARABS AND INTERNATIONAL
- 22:36 ARCHAEOLOGISTS WHO JUST WANT TO
- 22:37 GO AND SEARCH FOR ANCIENT THINGS
- 22:39 AND THEY KEEP FINDING THAT
- 22:40 WHATEVER THEY FIND AFFECTS
- 22:42 TODAY'S POLITICAL STRUGGLE
- 22:45 AND THAT THEY'RE PULLED THIS WAY
- 22:46 AND THEY'RE PULLED THAT WAY.
- 22:47 Zola: EVEN WITH THE POLITICAL
- 22:48 PRESSURES, DANNY, KNOWING
- 22:50 THE IMPORTANCE OF ARCHAEOLOGICAL
- 22:51 FINDINGS FOR ALL FAITHS,
- 22:53 CONTINUES HIS WORK
- 22:54 AT THE TEMPLE MOUNT.
- 22:56 Danny: THE TUNNEL,
- 22:57 THE IDEA OF THE TUNNEL
- 22:58 IS TO EXPOSE TO THE JEWISH WORLD
- 22:59 THE SANCTITY
- 23:01 OF THE TEMPLE MOUNT,
- 23:02 MOREOVER, IN THIS RESPECT,
- 23:04 SINCE IT REFERS TO
- 23:06 THE SECOND TEMPLE PERIOD,
- 23:07 IT IS ALSO OF GREAT IMPORTANCE
- 23:09 TO THE CHRISTIAN WORLD.
- 23:11 TO THE MUSLIMS, OUR TUNNEL
- 23:12 IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE, FROM
- 23:13 THE SCIENTIFIC POINT OF VIEW
- 23:16 WE HAVE REVEALED HERE
- 23:17 LAYERS OF ISLAMIC DEVELOPMENT,
- 23:20 URBAN DEVELOPMENT OF JERUSALEM
- 23:22 OF WHICH THEY NEVER KNEW BEFORE.
- 23:24 SO, ALL TOGETHER, INSTEAD OF,
- 23:26 I WILL SAY, ENCOURAGING,
- 23:28 THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT A SITE
- 23:30 WHICH EVERYONE...
- 23:31 JEWS...CHRISTIANS...AND MUSLIMS
- 23:33 CAN FIND EACH OF THEM SOMETHING
- 23:35 WHICH WILL WARM HIS POINT...
- 23:37 I MEAN, WILL WARM HIS HEART
- 23:39 WITH A CERTAIN POINT
- 23:40 OF HIS LEGACY,
- 23:42 THEY MADE A WHOLE MESS OF IT.
- 23:43 AND THIS IS, REALLY...
- 23:45 I'M AFRAID IT IS TYPICAL THING.
- 23:47 AND THAT'S WHY I'M SO FURIOUS,
- 23:48 BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE WERE
- 23:49 AGREEMENTS AND UNDERSTANDINGS
- 23:52 WHICH THE WORLD DENIED.
- 23:53 AND, UNFORTUNATELY, THE MEDIA
- 23:54 TOOK PART IN THIS DENIAL.
- 23:57 Tom: WHAT DID YOU THINK
- 23:59 OF THE EARLY REPORTING THAT CAME
- 24:00 OUT ABOUT THE TUNNEL EPISODE?
- 24:04 Danny: WELL, TOM,
- 24:05 AS A JOURNALIST WHO'S LIVED HERE
- 24:06 AND REPORTED FROM HERE
- 24:08 FOR 16 YEARS I'VE GOT TO SAY
- 24:09 I WAS A BIT DISAPPOINTED IN IT.
- 24:12 JOURNALISTS KNOW THAT ALL OF
- 24:14 THESE ISSUES ARE VERY POLITICAL
- 24:17 AND EMOTIONAL, ETC.
- 24:18 THEY KNOW THAT SOMETIMES WE GET
- 24:20 A SLANTED VERSION OF WHAT'S
- 24:22 GOING ON AND THERE WAS I THINK
- 24:24 A VERY LIMITED ATTEMPT
- 24:26 TO CHECK THE FACTS.
- 24:29 WE HAD, FOR INSTANCE,
- 24:30 ARCHAEOLOGIST DANNY BAHAT
- 24:32 WHO'S SO INVOLVED IN THIS
- 24:33 AND YET HE WASN'T CONSULTED
- 24:36 BY THE INTERNATIONAL MEDIA.
- 24:38 THE BBC, CNN AND OTHERS
- 24:41 REPEATED THE REPORT THAT THE
- 24:43 ISRAELIS HAVE OPENED A TUNNEL.
- 24:45 WELL, OF COURSE, IT WAS JUST
- 24:46 AN EXIT TO THE TUNNEL,
- 24:48 A DOOR THAT HAD BEEN PUT IN.
- 24:50 SO THAT WAS VERY,
- 24:51 VERY MISLEADING.
- 24:52 AND THEY DIDN'T GO DOWN
- 24:54 AND LOOK AT THE THING TOO.
- 24:55 I WAS WAITING FOR ONE
- 24:56 OF THE INTERNATIONAL NETWORKS
- 24:58 TO HAVE A CAMERA CREW
- 24:59 GO THROUGH IT AND SAY,
- 25:00 "THIS IS WHERE IT BEGINS,
- 25:01 THIS IS WHERE IT ENDS,
- 25:02 THIS IS WHERE IT IS
- 25:03 IN RELATION TO THE MOSQUE, ETC."
- 25:05 AND WE DIDN'T SEE THAT AT ALL.
- 25:07 SO IT WAS VERY SHALLOW REPORTING
- 25:09 I THOUGHT.
- 25:10 Zola: WHAT IF THE MUSLIMS
- 25:11 AND JEWS REALLY WORKED TOGETHER?
- 25:14 David: I WISH IT WERE.
- 25:15 I TELL YOU MY EXPERIENCE
- 25:16 NOW IS--AND I'M, OF COURSE,
- 25:18 YOU CAN IMAGINE I WANT
- 25:19 THIS PEACE AND EVERYTHING...
- 25:20 EVEN WITH EGYPT, WITH WHICH
- 25:21 WE SIGNED ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO,
- 25:23 A PEACE AGREEMENT;
- 25:24 YOU DON'T SEE ANY
- 25:26 SCIENTIFIC COLLABORATION,
- 25:27 IN NO WAY, IN ARCHAEOLOGY.
- 25:29 WITH JORDAN,
- 25:30 I HOPE IT WILL WORK BETTER.
- 25:32 TO THE PRESENT THERE IS NOTHING.
- 25:33 I WONDER IF THE ARABS WILL DO IT
- 25:36 AT ALL, ESPECIALLY ON JERUSALEM.
- 25:39 I WONDER.
- 25:40 I WOULD LIKE IT VERY MUCH.
- 25:41 Zola: YOU WOULD HOPE--
- 25:42 Danny: YES, BUT REMEMBER THAT
- 25:44 STILL, THE FEELING THAT WE ARE
- 25:46 PART OF THE MIDDLE EAST HAS
- 25:48 NOT YET SEEPED TO THEIR MIND.
- 25:50 THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM STARTS
- 25:52 AND THAT'S WHERE IT ENDS.
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- 26:25 Myles: WE ARE SO BLESSED TO HAVE
- 26:26 EXPERTS LIKE DAVID DOLAN AND
- 26:27 DANNY BAHAT TO EXPLAIN TO US THE
- 26:29 REALITY ON THE GROUND IN ISRAEL.
- 26:31 SINCE THE TIME OF THESE RIOTS,
- 26:34 WHAT'S COME TO LIGHT
- 26:35 IS THAT IT CAME TO PASS
- 26:36 DURING BIBI NETANYAHU'S
- 26:38 FIRST TERM, WHEN HE WAS HAVING
- 26:40 THE HISTORIC RECONCILIATION
- 26:42 MEETING WITH HELMUT KOHL,
- 26:43 THE CHANCELLOR OF GERMANY.
- 26:45 DURING THAT TIME, THESE RIOTS
- 26:46 STARTED AT THE WESTERN WALL
- 26:48 AND NETANYAHU SAID TO ARAFAT,
- 26:50 "I WILL HAVE TANKS IN RAMALLAH
- 26:52 IN 15 MINUTES,
- 26:53 IF YOU DO NOT STOP THE RIOTS."
- 26:54 THANKFULLY,
- 26:55 ARAFAT STOPPED THE RIOTS.
- 26:57 UNFORTUNATELY,
- 26:58 70 PEOPLE LOST THEIR LIVES.
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